Logo Art"The Alien Jigsaw: The Experiences of Author Katharina Wilson"

An Interview by Laura Steiger

Case Briefs: Explorations & Review (November / December 1994)

Blue Being #12It was my pleasure to meet the very personable Katharina Wilson, author of The Alien Jigsaw, at MUFON's 25th Annual Symposium last July. Her book was fascinating and I was impressed and intrigued by her in-depth analysis and insights into her own abduction experiences. Katharina's encounters were explored during sessions with Budd Hopkins and his comments about her in the Introduction of The Alien Jigsaw pay tribute to this most remarkable lady.

LS: What were your motivations for going public with your abduction history and writing your book, The Alien Jigsaw?

KW: My motivations were two-fold. Although a few excellent books about abductions had been written over the past decade, I found myself feeling somewhat alienated from the so-called 'mainstream abduction case.' This isolation stemmed from the fact that I was experiencing events during my abduction encounters that had never before been published.

When I began meeting with and interviewing other abductees, I realized they were feeling the same way I was feeling. We were seeing Beings other than the Greys, and experiencing phenomena such as teaching dreams, visions and theatrical scenarios.

These are a very important part of abductions and they are designed to test and elicit emotional and behavioral responses from the abductee. I thought it was time for someone to share this type of information with both the research community and other abductees.

The other factor that motivated me to go public were my abduction experiences involving apparent military/government interaction. I had reported such interaction as far back as 1990, but my information wasn't getting out to the UFO community. I can only assume that there weren't enough reports to warrant sharing my information with the UFO community. My book covers the first thirty-two years of my life and out of 119 experiences, I documented fourteen experiences that had military/government overtones. Some of these experiences occurred in underground bases. It was these types of experiences that really drove me to go public.

LS: So far, has going public with your book helped or hindered you?

KW: Going public is always difficult even if you think you feel completely comfortable with it. I find it stressful to speak to hundreds of strangers at UFO conferences. However, I am compelled to do so because I know that even if I only help on person come to terms with their experiences, then it is worth it. Going public has certainly helped.

LS: Do you prefer the word 'abductee' or 'experiencer,' and why?

KW: I use the term 'abductee' because it was the term that was most commonly used to describe people who interacted with non-human Beings back in the eighties. I don't associate any negative feelings with the word, in fact, many people are surprised when I tell them that 45% of my experiences were neutral.

A lot of people would say the word 'abductee' means, "To be taken against your will." Well, for most people, I think we are taken against our will or at least we believe we are. Of course, when we understand more about past lives and the research that is being done relating to them, we may find out one day that we agreed to do this work in a previous life. However, right now I don't think we can say this with certainty. It is only a hypothesis.

LS: What has been the most difficult thing to deal with, outside the actual abduction experiences, since you became consciously aware of them?

KW: The most difficult thing to deal with revolves around a specific anxiety concerning the safety of my pets and my family. I would have to say that the next most difficult thing to deal with is the possibility that I may never know the truth behind the whole abduction phenomenon. I don't want to die without knowing what really happened to me. Being abducted and remembering what happened to you is one thing. Understanding why is quite another. I want to know why I'm being abducted. And, I want to know why I'm seeing military and government personnel in my experiences. I don't want them to be there, but they are. And, during my experiences, I don't feel as bad about it as I feel I should. Sometimes I feel quite comfortable with the military people I see.

Isn't it normal that I would feel it is wrong to be abducted by military or government personnel? I ask myself this question a lot these days. And-I wonder how the families feel whose loved ones were experimented on in the radiation experiments during the Cold War. I also wonder about the black men who were experimented on in the Tuskegee Institute's syphilis study. Could something like that happen again? Did the experiments ever end?

LS: Where, if at all, do you feel that your experiences differ from those reported by other abductees (such as those who have reported experiences to Budd Hopkins, Dr. Jacobs, Dr. Mack...)? What are some of the commonalities?

KW: I'm different in the ways I described when I answered the first question. I have so many conscious memories that I could have literally written my book to fit the 'Hopkins-Jacobs abductee,' or the 'John Mack experiencer.' I decided to include all of my experiences in The Alien Jigsaw because I know that we are not either abductees or experiencers-we are both, and that is what makes studying abductions so confusing.

The fact that Dr. Mack is rattling the establishment is great. He is giving us options that western culture has taught us to ignore. We are standing at a door that we have to open if we are to move forward. We have to open it for our children's sake. Right now there are a lot of people standing in front of that door with their eyes closed, terrified of what they will discover.

LS: Abduction researchers such as Ray Fowler and Dr. John Mack indicate that some of their abductees (experiencers) are reporting themes of reincarnation, dual human/alien souls and future ecological trauma to planet Earth. What are your feelings about these reports and how do they fit into your own experiences?

KW: As I told a friend recently, "I know past lives are real, but I don't do past lives-I'm not into it." Since I made that statement, I've experienced two reincarnation themes that felt as vivid and reality-based as my abduction experiences, but they were not connected with alien Beings. The spontaneous memories of these two past lives shook me to my core because I never imagined or believed that I would remember something like a past life.

Dual human/alien souls are another subject I felt similarly about until recently. Whenever the subject came up I would simply tune the information out. While I was completing my work on The Alien Jigsaw, I found myself thinking about the blue-skinned Being. She was a small Being with a large bald head and huge round eyes. She had beautiful pale blue skin and I believed she was exceptionally wise. I always thought she had her eyes closed during my interaction with her, even though she telepathically told me that she always has blue-gray eyes when she comes into the Earth plane.

One day I got my answer about the color of her eyes in a manner that left me with more questions than answers. I found myself standing in front of a mirror or some type of reflective wall. I was looking at myself and was gently rubbing my hand across my face. As I admired my reflection I said to myself, "I really am beautiful. I am very satisfied with my physical appearance." I had my eyes open and was staring at myself in the 'mirror.' I was a blue-skinned Being with large blue-gray eyes, but inside, it was still me. I experienced the same knowing I felt during my two past life memories. I know I used to be those 'people.'

LS: Have your religious beliefs changed since you became aware of your experiences? If so, how?

KW: I was raised and confirmed in the Lutheran Church. I went to Sunday school or church almost every Sunday until I was eighteen. I do not want to offend anyone by saying this, but I never felt as if I fit in there. I never quite believed what I was being taught, and no one answered my questions to my satisfaction.

I believe there is a great creative force, and I have been taught to call this force 'God.' I pray and give thanks to God every day, which is not something I did prior to connecting my memories with the abduction phenomenon.

I am not a religious person, but I do consider myself a spiritual person. I live my beliefs, I don't preach them. My spiritual beliefs center around the basic premise that all life is equal and is special, and should be treated with respect and love. I am a vegetarian not for health reasons, but because I love animals. For me to eat an animal would be like someone else eating another human. When they are available, I buy products that have not been tested on animals and I will always buy vinyl over leather.

A lot of people assume that I'm a vegetarian because I've been manipulated by the aliens and they wanted me to be a vegetarian. Not so. In 1984, I began to realize the connection within all life and drastically changed my diet. Over the course of two years, I changed my behavior. People don't just wake up one day and decide to be vegetarians. Many vegetarians are people who have made that (sometimes painful) connection to the value of life. They realize that humans aren't the most important species on our planet and they decide to live their life accordingly.

In living out my life on this planet, my spiritual beliefs tell me that I should leave this world at least as good a place as when I entered, preferably better. One person can make a difference. I think a lot about all the animals who are not being created and slaughtered just to put meat on my plate. I have been a vegetarian for over eight years and I am just as energetic and healthy as ever.

Crystal City #22LS: Aside from the fact that the whole phenomenon can be considered strange, what do you feel was your most strange or unusual experience?

KW: I would have to say the experiences involving reincarnation and a dual human/alien soul. I recently shared this information with another researcher at a conference I was speaking at in Gulf Breeze, but this is the first time I've spoken of it publicly...I still don't understand it.

My most unusual abduction experience involved my being taken to a place that I was told was, "The dark side of the moon." I saw enormous domed-shaped structures on the horizon and tall crystal like structures in the foreground. I was with two humanoid males who were wearing gray body suits. I was wearing a body suit also and was learning how to use a hand-held weapon that resembled a machine gun. However, this weapon was light weight and emitted energy instead of bullets. I distinctly remember looking at the dome-shaped structures and wondering if this was a city and how it could be here. Once you experience something like this, it is impossible to ignore it.

LS: Is it your feeling that these Beings are extraterrestrial, extra dimensional, or something else all together?

KW: Yes-and I say that with a smile. I have had experiences that have led me to believe that some of the Beings are inter-dimensional while some of them are extraterrestrial. The category "something else all together" should stay on the board as well since we understand so little about the universe.

LS: How do you deal with the skeptics and those who say it's all in your head?

KW: The skeptics I hear on television make me laugh when they say abductions are caused by mass hallucinations, fantasy-prone personality, false memory syndrome and sleep paralysis. FPP, FMS, sleep paralysis and hallucinations probably do affect a portion of the population. For example, Carl Sagan publicly admitted in a March 7, 1993, Parade magazine article he has had auditory hallucinations probably a dozen times since the death of his parents.

These new 'syndromes' have not been proven to be as organized on such a massive scale as abductions appear to be. Incidentally, FPP, FMS, and sleep paralysis are not officially recognized in the DSM-III-R (the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of mental disorders).

I haven't been challenged in person about my abduction experiences. I have, however, met with skeptical people who have open minds and I think that is about all we can ask of them. Try to keep an open mind. We don't have all the answers yet.

LS: Finally, when you were a little girl, what went through your head when you looked out at the stars at night? How about now?

KW: When I was a little girl and looked up at the stars, I felt that the Universe was wondrous. My father spent time with me showing me how to use my little telescope and we would look at the moon together. I remember the first thing I wanted to be when I grew up, was an astronomer. I loved looking at the night sky as a child, and still enjoy it as an adult.

I enjoy looking for satellites and on a clear night I will almost always be able to spot one. A few months ago I went outside and sat down on my deck. I looked up at a group of stars and marveled at how clear the sky was and how beautiful the stars were. Then I began thinking about the Beings. I felt a little sad and I said to myself (while looking at a group of stars), "Why don't you ever let me see you anymore like I am right now-completely awake and on my terms?"

At that moment, one of the stars I was looking at moved across the sky. Not fast, but it definitely moved. If I were to hold my fist at arm's length, the 'star' moved from my left to right, about ten inches across the sky (that is holding a ruler at arm's length) in three seconds. It then blinked out.

I couldn't believe what I had seen. Even though I had asked to see it and I observed it, I still couldn't believe it had anything to do with me. It left me questioning: Who and what am I, that would cause an advanced alien species to have an interest in me?


Laura Steiger is the editor for Case Briefs, the newsletter for the Northern California Mutual UFO Network, an affiliate of The Mutual UFO Network. This article has been reprinted with the permission of the Editor, Case Briefs: Exploration and Review. To subscribe to Case Briefs, or for more information, write to: Case Briefs, c/o Virgil C. Staff, MUFON Northern California, P.O. Box 7668, Landscape Station, Berkeley, CA, 94707-0668.


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