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     1        your understanding.  If there is a document (in which I
     2        would include a book in this kind of case) which one of
     3        your witnesses is going to refer to (and the same would
     4        apply to McDonald's) it is not really for the party whose
     5        witness is going to refer to it to decide what they think
     6        is material because the other side, from their rather
     7        different aspect, may think that other parts are
     8        material.
     9
    10        Having said that, I appreciate that is very easy if you
    11        have something which is, say, a maximum of 20 pages, but
    12        if it is 200 pages you can run into practical
    13        difficulties.
    14
    15   MR. MORRIS:  This one is 293 pages.
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think what you have to do -- I will come
    18        back to this particular situation in a moment -- if in the
    19        future witnesses are going to refer to a particular book,
    20        by all means produce photocopies of what you consider to
    21        be the relevant parts, but make sure somewhere in advance
    22        the whole book gets into the hands of the other side on
    23        loan for a period, even if you say:  "Look, we have given
    24        you photocopies of some pages of this.  Our witness Mr. X
    25        is going to refer to it; we would like to lend it to you
    26        for a week.  Can we have it back at the end of next week?"
    27        or something of that kind.  That is just a practical
    28        suggestion so we do not run into this kind of situation.
    29
    30        How long do you think Dr. Lobstein is going to be in
    31        answer to your questions and Ms. Steel's questions, i.e.
    32        in-chief?
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  I am not sure -- most of today for certain.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Then I think it may be a question of lending
    37        your copy of the booklet overnight.  What I suggest is
    38        that if Dr. Lobstein refers to part of the text which is
    39        dependent upon a table, he brings that to our attention
    40        because he is probably more familiar with the book than
    41        anyone else in court.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Then we will have to think about getting
    46        photocopies as we go along.  In fact, if I might ask you,
    47        Dr. Lobstein, before you are sworn, are there particular
    48        tables which you know now you are going to refer to?
    49
    50   THE WITNESS:  I am wondering if it is necessary to refer to 
    51        tables at all.  I think the sorts of statements I would 
    52        want to make are actually in the text that has already 
    53        been served.
    54
    55   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If you can ----
    56
    57   THE WITNESS:  Inevitably, if the text is challenged, the text
    58        is written on the basis of tables, then the tables would
    59        have to be referred to.
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