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1 different places. If and when your Lordship has looked at
2 them, Mr. Morris can willingly have one of those two
3 copies.
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5 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us see how we go. I do not want to
6 denigrate principles, but there are times when they can
7 take second place to pragmatism without any disadvantage
8 to anyone.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, there are only -- it may be that your
11 Lordship would wish to see the whole of the video for
12 context. I have no desire to invite your Lordship to take
13 that course. It may be that the Defendants would want
14 your Lordship to see the whole of the recording. I only
15 require it for two very short passages, one in relation to
16 the question I asked yesterday and one in relation to
17 another question which I propose to ask this morning.
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let us see how we go. I am quite prepared
20 to take it home and play it at home at any stage; if so
21 that others can have copies, that is not practical, I am
22 quite prepared to watch it in court provided there is
23 someone who can operate the machine any time between 8.30
24 in the morning and 6.30 at night.
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26 MR. RAMPTON: There is a copy for your Lordship because, in
27 this sense, your Lordship is the guardian of the evidence
28 of the court. One copy can be for Mr. Morris and the
29 other for your Lordship. There is no problem about that.
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31 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Morris, as far as I am concerned, can
32 borrow mine until such time as I am asked to look at it.
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34 MR. RAMPTON: As I say, there are two copies there. I do not
35 know whether it might be sensible that I ask my further
36 question about that television show, and that I would not
37 then show the video until Mr. Morris has had a chance to
38 see the two passages to which I will have made reference,
39 which he can do over the luncheon adjournment.
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41 MR. JUSTICE BELL: They can be played in court, can they?
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43 MR. RAMPTON: Yes.
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45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: How long are they altogether?
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47 MR. RAMPTON: About a total of 30 seconds.
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Hill can find them quite quickly, can
50 he?
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52 MR. RAMPTON: Mr. Hill has got them in the proper places; that
53 is why we have used two video tapes.
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I was going to say that we might have got
56 through the morning without the break, but an alternative
57 is to have it, to put "Court in Chambers" on the doors and
58 let Mr. Hill show the two parts, anyway, to Mr. Morris and
59 Ms. Steel in case she has not been able to identify them.
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