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     1        we put it.
     2
     3   Q.   Is there any advertising targeted directly at the "tweens"?
     4        A.  Yes, there is.
     5
     6   Q.   Post-Ronald, but pre-adult?
     7        A.  Yes, there is.
     8
     9   Q.   What sort of form does that take?  I assume by this time
    10        you are afraid that they will be embarrassed about Ronald,
    11        or something.  Anyhow, you do not use him.  So what do you
    12        use?
    13        A.  Essentially, we show that age group of child in the
    14        commercial, and what we try to do is show them that we
    15        understand their lifestyle, we understand that age and the
    16        life they are going through, and we try to make sure that
    17        they feel that McDonald's completely understands them.
    18
    19   Q.   In these terms, at what age does childhood stop?
    20        A.  Well, again-----
    21
    22   Q.   That is not a philosophical question.
    23        A.  It is a difficult question, but we treat them
    24        differently at somewhere around the age between eight and
    25        10.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I wonder if you and Mr. Rampton are looking
    28        at the same thing, because that was more or less the age
    29        where Ronald stopped and the "tweens" started?
    30        A.  Yes, that is correct.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I think Mr. Rampton was asking you when the
    33        "tweens" stopped.
    34
    35   MR. RAMPTON:  (To the witness)  Yes, I was, really.
    36        A.  Usually, it is about the time that they reach a bit
    37        more independence, and it is about 15 or 16 years age.
    38
    39   Q.   I am coming to regulation in a moment, Mr. Green, but, from
    40        your point of view as an advertiser, really what I am after
    41        is this:  is it correct to try to draw what I call definite
    42        or clear lines between one age and another, so far as
    43        younger people are concerned?
    44        A.  No.  I think it really relies on the maturity of the
    45        individual child.  Sometimes it is different from one child
    46        to the next.  Obviously, over the years, I think that
    47        children have gotten a bit more mature earlier.
    48
    49   Q.   So whilst you might have a 13 year-old who still thought
    50        Ronald was lovely, equally, you might have an eight 
    51        year-old who has grown out of him and wanted something a 
    52        bit more grown up? 
    53        A.  I think that is a correct statement.
    54
    55   Q.   As to regulation in the United States, regulation of
    56        children's advertising, how is that achieved?
    57        A.  The networks themselves regulate to some degree what
    58        advertising can be shown.  Then individual advertisers may
    59        have their own standards which they abide by, as well.
    60

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