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     1        common practice.  Also, the burden on the party seeking
     2        discovery would be so great otherwise, the burden of proof,
     3        because obviously you do not know what is in a document, it
     4        is hard to prove that must be relevant.
     5
     6        So, the question is whether it is reasonable to suppose it
     7        might, directly or indirectly, advance or damage a case.
     8        So, having said that, and bearing in mind the extract that
     9        you have quoted just relating to a case, it is clear that
    10        all the material in those documents relate to matters at
    11        issue, although not strictly about environment/index.html">litter (although
    12        actually some of it does relate to company environment/index.html">litter waste as
    13        well as customer environment/index.html">litter), it relates to disputes that they
    14        were having with residents which is absolutely central to
    15        this part of the case and the way that the -----
    16
    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I understand that in relation to disputes
    18        about environment/index.html">litter, but how is it relevant in relation to
    19        anything else?
    20
    21   MR. MORRIS:  It is relevant in the fact of the way McDonald's
    22        related to complaints that were made, not just on environment/index.html">litter,
    23        but the other matters.  We will contend -- that is the
    24        reason I asked Mr. Stump if he could leave the courtroom --
    25        that, for example, that if McDonald's have ever responded
    26        at all on the environment/index.html">litter problem, it is because of the pressure
    27        they have received.  That is something which runs through
    28        our whole case, if you like, in this trial, which is that
    29        when the company is put under pressure they miraculously
    30        develop policies and practices, or appear to, or an image
    31        of dealing with those issues.  That is why criticism should
    32        be protected in this country -- one of the reasons.
    33
    34        So, in short, to me, I would say, without having to go into
    35        every line of all those documents, it is clear that the
    36        whole documentation is about McDonald's disputes with local
    37        residents and residents associations; it is about how they
    38        dealt with that dispute; it is about how they responded to
    39        the residents and responded as regards environment/index.html">litter, and that it
    40        is not possible to judge the weight of the evidence on
    41        their commitment to dealing with the environment/index.html">litter issue and their
    42        effectiveness with dealing with the environment/index.html">litter issue, without
    43        being able to see the other matters which are clearly
    44        related and maybe drawing some conclusions from that.  I do
    45        not know if we will draw conclusions from those other
    46        matters because we have not seen what they are.
    47
    48        I believe I have the right to see those points and weigh up
    49        in my mind whether I want to cross-examine on those as
    50        well.  I believe, in fact, having had some indication of 
    51        what the other matters are, I would do some, if not much, 
    52        cross-examination on those points which I cannot do at the 
    53        moment.
    54
    55        It is not related to credit; it is related to the nuts and
    56        bolts of the dispute they had with residents and the
    57        planning application that was made.  It may be helpful to
    58        look at Mr. Siddique's statement who is yet to come.  I am
    59        not going to go on much longer.
    60

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