Day 082 - 01 Feb 95 - Page 07


     
     1   MS. STEEL:  Is it possible for Mr. Rampton to say what the other
     2        one is that happened the other day?
     3
     4   MR. RAMPTON:  No, I cannot remember.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, if by the time we part this morning it
     7        has been discovered, I am sure he will, otherwise I am sure
     8        a way will be found of communicating it to you.  I do not
     9        want go through that now, but if you would just look at it
    10        for a moment, by all means read it all, but the parts you
    11        should particularly read are the first pages up to just
    12        below G on page 1209, then on page 1211, the last complete
    13        paragraph from just below F to just below H; on page 1212
    14        from just above B to C which sets out a definition of what
    15        is prime facie relevant -- it is quite a wide definition --
    16        and then on page 1213 from E to B over the page which deals
    17        with the implied obligation that may very well not be
    18        relevant to any argument I am about to hear, but it relates
    19        back to something Mr. Rampton said the other day about the
    20        implied obligation of a party who obtains documents on
    21        discovery not to use them for any purpose other than the
    22        dispute in which they were obtained.  So, it seems to me
    23        that those are the most important parts of that decision.
    24
    25        Next there are two considerations, whether McDonald's
    26        should be put to listing any further documents apart from
    27        those which you have seen which are or have been in their
    28        power you are really concerned with; secondly, whether if
    29        there are such documents to be listed they should be
    30        produced for your inspection.  I am not inviting any
    31        response but that is why I have drawn your attention to
    32        that authority.
    33
    34        The matter I touched on the other day is this, that you
    35        will remember my ruling on the application for leave to
    36        amend paragraph 4F, the meanings alleged by McDonald's in
    37        relation to nutrition?  If I might suggest, read the New
    38        Zealand case in relation to the extent to which a Plaintiff
    39        in a libel action is stuck with the meaning which he has
    40        alleged in his claim.  But it may very well be that the New
    41        Zealand case does not reflect English law.  In that case
    42        counsel for the Plaintiff said they stood or fell on the
    43        meaning which they pleaded, so they could not fall back on
    44        some lesser but still defamatory meaning; whereas we have
    45        an authority which Mr. Rampton referred to where the
    46        Plaintiff was Slim and it was approved by the present
    47        Master of the Rolls in a more recent case -- I have
    48        forgotten the name of the forensic scientist concerned ---
    49
    50   MR. RAMPTON:  Skewes, my Lord. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- Skewes, which indicates that the Plaintiff 
    53        can rely on any meaning provided, of course, it is still
    54        defamatory which is less than the one pleaded.  The point
    55        of this is that when you are considering who, if anyone,
    56        you want recalled and what questions, whether in-chief or
    57        in cross-examination, you want to ask any nutritional
    58        expert who comes into the witness box in the future, do
    59        not, I would suggest, just ask questions directed at the
    60        meaning which McDonald's now have leave to plead which

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