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     1        there would not need to be directions on the application
     2        for discovery that we made then.
     3
     4        Quite a number of the things that they were looking into,
     5        we have not heard what they found.  On the Brazil,
     6        specifically, then they did disclose a map.  They did say
     7        when they disclosed it that they were not sure if this was
     8        the map that they were looking for or not, because it did
     9        not have any information on it to really say -----
    10
    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, you need not go into any argument, just
    12        "Brazil map".  Give headlines of that kind.
    13
    14   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, and related documents that were indicated,
    15        I am just giving so that the Plaintiffs can look at the
    16        argument that there was last time.  There is no point in
    17        repeating all the arguments we had last time.  They should
    18        check.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Documents which you say there was an
         indication of further enquiry on day 70, the Braslo map?
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    24
    25   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I hesitate to interrupt, you see, this is
    26        what happens.  It is such a muddle.  Your Lordship has
    27        actually made a formal ruling in relation to Brazil.  That
    28        ruling was made on 20th December.  We know what we have to
    29        do in relation to Brazil; we have to disclose documents
    30        which are relevant to the question, if we have any, or had
    31        any, relevant to the question where in Brazil the Vesty
    32        meat came from.  That is all.
    33
    34   MR. MORRIS:  The rulings you made were not exhaustive because
    35        the Plaintiffs were making a number of indications that
    36        they were looking into other areas which meant that you
    37        would not have to make a ruling one way or the other,
    38        whether they were under obligation to do that.  If the
    39        Plaintiffs check, they may be surprised to find that they
    40        are actually at the moment making lots of enquiries for
         documents.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Is there anything else in relation to
    44        Brazil?  I will re-read that myself.
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Actually, I was going to ask you if you could
    47        re-read pages 16 to 20.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is this day 70?
    50 
    51   MR. MORRIS:  On day 70, because, if you remember, we had a 
    52        discussion about what our case was on the rainforest issue. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    55
    56   MR. MORRIS:  And that although you were concentrating on the
    57        discovery issue, it did not necessarily prejudice our ---
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I remember that.
    60