Day 085 - 08 Feb 95 - Page 02
1 Wednesday 8th February, 1995.
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3 MS. STEEL: We decided to serve a Civil Evidence Act Notice in
4 respect of Mr. Clark's statement. We have marked the parts
5 of the statement that we want the Civil Evidence Act to
6 apply to on our behalf.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Hand to that Mrs. Brinley-Codd.
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10 MS. STEEL: I have handed one to them.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not need to see it yet, do I, because
13 I do not know what will come of it at the end of the day.
14 Hold on to it for a moment somewhere because I do not know
15 whether there will be a counter notice, or whether you will
16 reach some agreement as to what parts go in or whether the
17 whole goes in.
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19 MS. STEEL: Right. I wanted to bring up about the funeral.
20 I do know that it is next Tuesday, as I said. It is the
21 funeral of a friend. I would ask that the court did not
22 sit on that day because Mr. Bowes, it was mainly me who was
23 going to be cross-examining him.
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25 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do you know -- it is next Tuesday, is it?
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27 MS. STEEL: Yes.
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29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is in the Midlands, is it?
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31 MS. STEEL: Yes.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is there anything you wish to say,
34 Mr. Rampton?
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36 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, about the funeral at the moment, no.
37 About Mr. Ashley Bowes, emphatically yes. Unless your
38 Lordship declines to hear his evidence on Monday, I intend
39 to call him as the witness at 10.30 on Monday morning.
40 I have said (and I adhere to this) that I will be
41 relatively short with him ending, I hope, round about
42 mid-day on that day. If Ms. Steel is to do the majority of
43 the cross-examination (which need not surprise us because
44 he is an animals person), then she can start at that time.
45 Given the evidence of Dr. Gregory, it may be -- I am not
46 trying to put pressure on Ms. Steel -- that she will be
47 finished her part of the cross-examination at least by the
48 end of Monday, otherwise one will have to see what must
49 happen. My Lord, I might have a submission to make in
50 reserve of that, but I would prefer, if I may, to keep that
51 for the moment.
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: At the moment I agree that we should start
54 with Mr. Bowes on Monday. We will sit all day Monday
55 hearing his evidence. At the moment I am minded to say we
56 will not sit at all on Tuesday because the evidence which
57 will be given on that day is Mr. Bowes, and it is quite
58 apparent that the first of the two Defendants, that is
59 Ms. Steel, has a particular interest in animal welfare and
60 Mr. Bowes' evidence is particularly concerned with that.