Day 085 - 08 Feb 95 - Page 05
1 MR. RAMPTON: That, I anticipate, is the reason why they have
2 done that.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I had not anticipated that so, if that is so,
5 it may well be miss-founded, but we have not actually come
6 to that yet.
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8 MR. RAMPTON: But, my Lord, it is as with the Public Health
9 Laboratory report about Preston, unless this becomes
10 evidence, which it does not without use of the Civil
11 Evidence Act notice, it cannot be used in court.
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I understand that. I had not related the
14 Civil Evidence Act Notice of Mr. Clark to Mr. Atherton's
15 presence in the witness box at all.
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17 MR. RAMPTON: Maybe it is a good thing that I have said what
18 I have to say because I do believe that I am right about
19 the Defendants' intentions. If I am right about it, then I
20 shall have something to say about it.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I quite agree, subject to any argument from
23 either Mr. Morris or Ms. Steel, that no part of Mr. Clark's
24 statement at this moment has any evidential status because
25 it has merely had a Civil Evidence Act notice put on it
26 which you have not had an opportunity to reply to or give
27 counter notice to at this stage.
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29 MR. RAMPTON: I mean, it is worse than that. It is that
30 I deliberately did not ask Mr. Atherton in-chief any
31 questions about this piece of paper.
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, there we are. It is not evidence at the
34 moment.
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36 MS. STEEL: I am not quite sure why Mr. Rampton deliberately did
37 not ask any questions about it, but if he wants to ask
38 someone, we have no objection.
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40 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That does not matter. You carry on. It is
41 not in evidence because a Civil Evidence Act Notice has
42 been put on it because the person on whom it is served has
43 to have an opportunity to give counter notice and
44 everything else. So, at the moment it is an inadmissible
45 document in the same category as others which we have had,
46 and follows the same procedure as the procedure we followed
47 then. In due course, it may very well be we will hear
48 evidence from Mr. Clark either under the provisions of the
49 Civil Evidence Act or from the witness box, but we will
50 just have to see.
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52 MR. ATHERTON, continued.
53 Cross-examined by the Defendants, continued.
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55 MR. MORRIS: Mr. Atherton, your company takes health and safety
56 of employees seriously, yes?
57 A. Correct.
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59 Q. Are you aware that the Health & Safety Executive did a
60 comprehensive analysis of McDonald's safety record and