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     1        A.  No.
     2
     3   Q.   But were you responsible for the development?
     4        A.  Operations development of new products, new ways of
     5        operating a restaurant, new equipment and changes, anything
     6        that was changing in McDonald's.  That is really what I was
     7        responsible for, heading up various teams on new ideas.
     8
     9   Q.   So, in fact, it would have been a relevant circumstance for
    10        you, even if you were not personally in a responsible
    11        position, in terms of monitoring equipment and procedures
    12        to see if things could be improved?
    13        A.  Yes, I think you could make that association but -----
    14
    15   Q.   It is now, is it not, it is now in your area of
    16        responsibility in terms of health and safety of employees?
    17        A.  Most definitely now with my new responsibility of
    18        health and safety, reporting directly to me is my
    19        responsibility.
    20
    Q.   Would you say that was the most serious incident in terms
    22        of implication for employees' safety that there has been in
    23        McDonald's in this country?
    24        A.  You said is that the most serious implication?
    25
    26   Q.   Is that the most serious single incident that has ever
    27        happened, as far as you know of, in McDonald's in this
    28        country?
    29        A.  To my knowledge, I believe there has only been one
    30        death of anyone in McDonald's.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is it the only fatality?
    33        A.  Yes, as far as I am concerned, I am sure it is.
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  So you would say that was the single most serious
    36        individual incident?
    37        A.  Well, yes, a death is more serious than any other
    38        accident that has happened in McDonald's.
    39
    40   Q.   You are now presently in charge of the over-view of health
         and safety of employees?
    42        A.  That is correct.
    43
    44   Q.   So you would have to know something about that incident if
    45        it was not to be repeated, would you not?
    46        A.  I know the broad history of that accident, yes.
    47
    48   Q.   So you do not know of any fault of McDonald's for that most
    49        serious accident in the company's history?
    50        A.  I do not.  As I say, I just know from conversations 
    51        with Jill and just a general overview of health and safety 
    52        in the past, some of the circumstances that were there.  I 
    53        just say again that Jill was the person who has, I think,
    54        managed that situation and understood all aspects around
    55        that.  She needed to know it.  At that time it just was not
    56        an issue that I managed.
    57
    58   Q.   Did this incident crop up in conversations sometimes or in
    59        reports or in any meetings as something to be taken
    60        seriously or to remember or to note certain circumstances