Day 095 - 02 Mar 95 - Page 10
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2 Q. And blood clots now only count as a defect if they measure
3 more than two centimetres?
4 A. That could be, if that is what it says under the
5 regulations, I do not know.
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7 Q. And mucosa on a single carcass has to exceed two
8 centimetres to be scored?
9 A. It would probably be better to look at the regulations.
10 I do not know the source you are looking at. It is not
11 the regulations. I do not know where you are getting your
12 information from.
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14 Q. So you do not know?
15 A. I do not know all the details of what you are saying,
16 all the numbers, no.
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18 Q. You know that there are size limits, though?
19 A. Yes, there is an acceptable, what is called an
20 acceptable quality level. It is a form that describes all
21 of the defects that the inspectors feel. That is how they
22 check for the quality of the animal and make their
23 decisions. It is separate from the one that do not even
24 have a form when they can reject pieces of meat or a
25 carcass if it is contaminated or diseased. Two different
26 things. One is, what you are reading is the quality level.
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28 Q. Stained causes by oil, grease and rust are also acceptable
29 if the measure is under a range of 3 to 7.9 centimetres?
30 A. That one, I doubt it. From my experience at the meat
31 plants, that is a foreign object. There is no foreign
32 object is allowed in the regulations, regardless of the
33 size.
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35 Q. Stains?
36 A. If it is oil, it is a foreign object.
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38 Q. Scar tissue caused by healed ulcers, liver spots and
39 sawdust are not even scored, are they?
40 A. I do not know. I am not familiar with the regulations
41 regarding organ meats. It is not part of my area that
42 I focus on. I focus primarily on the muscle meats. You
43 will probably be better off if we look at the regulations
44 directly from the regulations as opposed to a paper that we
45 do not know where it came from.
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47 Q. Sawdust is not just going to be on the organs?
48 A. Sawdust is a foreign object. It is not acceptable.
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50 Q. I do not think I asked this yesterday, but under the new
51 SIS programme, federal inspectors no longer have the
52 authority to stop the line if they see a problem?
53 A. That is incorrect. The authorities today have had the
54 authority to stop the line, to stop the process at any
55 given time, just as much as if I am referred to the court
56 here, they have the right to control their plants, just
57 like my Lord would have in this court.
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59 Q. You say that applies to the SIS plants as well, not just
60 the ones that are still run by the federal inspectors?
