Day 096 - 03 Mar 95 - Page 18


     
     1        A.  Basically, yes.
     2
     3   MS. STEEL:   I know it is a bit early but is it possible to have
     4        the five-minute break now?
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Just let me complete my note.
     7
     8                       (Short Adjournment)
     9
    10   MS. STEEL:  Can I just say, I think we are easily going to
    11        finish today so I do not think there are any worries on
    12        that score.
    13
    14   MR. RAMPTON:  I am grateful.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I would rather -- I think I made this clear
    17        before -- you ask for a little break every now and again to
    18        get yourselves in order and see what you have really to put
    19        as we go along even if I do not leave the court.
    20
    21   MS. STEEL:  I was wondering whether I could show the video again
    22        now?
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, can we do that?  We have from time to
    25        time shown the video.  The best way to do it, if you would
    26        not mind coming and standing more or less where
    27        Mrs. Brinley-Codd was then, Mr. Bowes.
    28
    29                 (The witness left the witness box)
    30
    31                  (The video recording was shown)
    32
    33   MS. STEEL:  Could you pause there?  Is that a topical farrowing
    34        stall?
    35        A.  That is a typical farrowing stall, not very
    36        well-managed -- intensive.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  In what?
    39        A.  Intensive.
    40
    41   Q.   I think it would be only right to put whether within his
    42        operation or within his suppliers because otherwise we will
    43        have an enormous loose end unless there is re-examination
    44        about it.
    45
    46   MS. STEEL:  Is that a typical farrowing stall -----
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  You use the intensive system, yes?
    49
    50   MS. STEEL:  The indoor ones? 
    51        A.  You say that the farrowing stall -- ours are similar to 
    52        that.  We make them ourselves.  They are similar to that. 
    53        There are some things that I would not agree with that is
    54        on there, but also ours are, first of all, the concrete
    55        floor is insulated and all our sowing pigs lay down on
    56        straw in such a system.
    57
    58   Q.   So you have got straw on the concrete?
    59        A.  And you will see that that is required by Freedom Food.
    60

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