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     1        witnesses did not come up to proof.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I quite agree.  There is a possibility -- you
     4        say it is theoretical only -- that they do not come up to
     5        proof.
     6
     7   MR. RAMPTON:  That is true on any issue.
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is true in any case but not every case has
    10        18 months of evidence.
    11
    12   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord.  That might, of course, be a short
    13        cut if my witnesses said:  "I quite agree; I am entirely
    14        mistaken, it was not you, Mr. Morris, or you, Ms. Steel who
    15        did it; it was not that leaflet".  My Lord, the principal
    16        reason I am having a little difficulty about it is that I
    17        do not want to disturb more of my employment witnesses than
    18        I have absolutely got to.  I particularly do not want to
    19        disturb the Americans, not because they are terribly
    20        important or anything like that, but because they have been
    21        moved around a good deal and because they do have to cross
    22        the Atlantic.
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I leave it there?  I have raised the
    25        matter.  I would like you to think about it.  If you adhere
    26        to your present views, there we are.
    27
    28   MR. RAMPTON:  Very well.  My Lord, that said, supposing that for
    29        one reason or another I do not accept your Lordship's
    30        invitation to do that, then I do not know whether what
    31        I first suggested this morning would appeal to your
    32        Lordship, that is to say, to split Mr. Nicholson into two
    33        and keep his publication evidence with the rest of the
    34        publication witnesses?
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think the first question is this:  Are the
    37        Defendants, if Mr. Nicholson gives evidence on publication
    38        at the beginning of next term, prepared to cross-examine on
    39        publication?  By "prepared" I do not mean willing, I mean
    40        are they ---
    41
    42   MR. RAMPTON:  Ready?
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- actually ready to do so.  If the answer is
    45        "no" and it is thought not right to give them a break of a
    46        day or two or a few days to prepare on, if that is correct,
    47        preparation may be long or short, I do not know, then it
    48        seems to me that you ought to have the option of calling
    49        Mr. Nicholson in-chief on a topic they can go on to
    50        cross-examine on. 
    51 
    52   MR. RAMPTON:  That was my original suggestion. 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So that we should make a division and
    55        Mr. Nicholson can come back and give his evidence relevant
    56        to publication when you call your other witnesses on that
    57        topic.  If that is the course we take, it seems to me that
    58        because we have taken that course with a view to
    59        convenience of everyone, you ought to be entitled to speak
    60        to Mr. Nicholson about matters relating to publication only

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