Day 147 - 04 Jul 95 - Page 12
1 chambers rather than open court. Mr. Rampton made a point
2 that he wanted to make it in chambers for the Defendants'
3 sake. The Defendants have said that they are happy to have
4 it heard in open court. Therefore, any further discussion
5 on it will be in open court.
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7 If at any stage any party wishes to argue that anything to
8 be discussed in the course of the trial should be discussed
9 in chambers, I will hear what they have to say.
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11 Mr. Rampton, you are perfectly entitled to say anything you
12 wish on the question of CaseView or the transcript in open
13 court, because I have to go back to my room and put my
14 robes on. I am afraid we had better put our wigs on or, as
15 I have said before, someone will think, on a coolish day
16 like this, I was trying to make some statement.
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18 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I would be with you if you were.
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20 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Have you got to go to the robing room?
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22 MR. RAMPTON: No. I have to go all the way back to chambers,
23 I am afraid, which is only the other side of the Strand.
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25 My Lord, I will not say anything at all until I get to my
26 reply. Your Lordship will, I hope, forgive me if by way of
27 reply to what the Defendants have to say (and it might be a
28 case where your Lordship thought it right that I should
29 respond immediately, rather than waiting to the end of the
30 interlocutory hearings), I will -----
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32 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Before Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris respond to
33 the applications which you and Mr. Atkinson made yesterday,
34 I consider that the question of CaseView and the transcript
35 should be canvassed, in the sense that I will allow
36 Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris to say anything which they wish to
37 say about that. Then I will hear anything which you wish
38 to say in reply to whatever they say.
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40 MR. RAMPTON: What I was going to say was, if your Lordship
41 would do that, I would ask to be forgiven if I repeat in
42 summary what I said yesterday.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You must say whatever you would like,
45 Mr. Rampton. I will come back into court -- I do not see
46 why you should rush back to Chambers -- five past 12, and
47 we will resume then in open court.
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49 (Short Adjournment)
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51 (IN OPEN COURT)
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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55 MR. MORRIS: Can we just ask for a clarification of what the
56 position is on yesterday's hearing? Is it, effectively,
57 now in the public domain in terms of what happened
58 yesterday?
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. Subject to anything Mr. Rampton said,
