Day 148 - 05 Jul 95 - Page 10


     
     1        carries any weight at all (which we do not think it
     2        should), then certainly it also needs to be canvassed that
     3        the generic use of the "Mc" symbol does not mean,
     4        therefore, that every heading refers to McDonald's acts but
     5        to a McDonald's type of process or food, or whatever.
     6
     7        So that explains why we have brought that up in evidence.
     8        If the Plaintiffs want to withdraw their reliance on trying
     9        to inflate the meanings by reference to headings, then we
    10        should have the right to bring evidence on that.
    11
    12        On the subject of Charles Secret, why we disclosed it late,
    13        we do not have to give any reason but, out of courtesy,
    14        I do not see why we should not, which is that we just
    15        wanted time to read it and think about it and, as it was a
    16        draft, to see whether he may wish to say anything further.
    17        We did not think it was a pressing issue in the case
    18        because we were on employment, or virtually about to start
    19        employment.
    20
    21        I think that is the only comment on Mr. Rampton's
    22        submissions that we have.
    23
    24        There was one other thing which is not on our list.  We
    25        thought it would be appearing on the Plaintiffs' list,
    26        which is the whole matter of franchisees which the
    27        Plaintiffs have raised more than halfway through the case
    28        when it suited them.  We would say they suddenly brought in
    29        a red herring; whenever there was some negative evidence
    30        that involved a franchisee, suddenly they were not
    31        responsible in some way.
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  In actual fact it was largely me, because
    34        I did not want you to assume that a licensor would be
    35        treated as responsible for things done or not done by his
    36        licensee because, as a lawyer, I have a great deal of
    37        difficulty with that suggestion.  One would have to look at
    38        the particular facts, but you are not to assume that a
    39        licensor was automatically responsible for the acts of his
    40        licensees.
    41
    42        You then gave me a little talk about how I should consider
    43        it to be so, but I wanted you to be aware that you could
    44        not take that for granted.  That is partly how it came in.
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I think, as we have asked their lead
    47        witnesses, I believe, who were quite happy to take
    48        responsibility and to -----
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  This is not a technical matter now, is it? 
    51        It is not a procedural matter.  It is a matter for argument 
    52        in due course. 
    53
    54   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I just wanted to say -----
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am not going to make any ruling on that now
    57        until I have listened to all the evidence and what you have
    58        to say to me, if anything, at the end of the day, as to
    59        McDonald's responsibility for their franchisees in, no
    60        doubt, differing situations.

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