Day 158 - 19 Jul 95 - Page 11

     
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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not, but I will certainly provide copies.  It
     3        was his Lordship who asked for it.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Which further application are you going to
     6        deal with first?
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     8   MS. STEEL:   I did want to add something else, actually.
     9        I listened to the tape-recording last night.  Whilst myself
    10        and Mr. Morris come out fairly clearly, parts of what
    11        everybody else says are inaudible.  Parts are just about
    12        audible, so it is a help, but it is in no way an effective
    13        substitute.  Even if we had the time to listen to it, there
    14        are still quite large parts which are virtually inaudible.
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    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You should think a bit more about where you
    17        place it, if it is picking up you all right and it is right
    18        next to you.
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    20   MS. STEEL:  It picks up Mr. Morris, as well.
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    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why not have it somewhere more in the middle?
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    24   MS. STEEL:   The problem is, we would not have anyone to operate
    25        it.
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    27   MR. RAMPTON:  I would not agree to that at all, because it would
    28        then pick up confidential things that I was saying to
    29        Mr. Atkinson and Mrs. Brinley-Codd.  If that is what they
    30        are reduced to, so be it; they must make the best use they
    31        can, but they cannot impinge on our confidentiality.
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    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That may be.  But if it is, for instance, in
    34        the middle of the front of the Associate's desk, can there
    35        be any objection to that?  The Associate should not be
    36        hearing what you are saying, anyway.
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    38   MR. RAMPTON:  Oh, there, my Lord?  I thought your Lordship meant
    39        here.
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    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I was thinking of that, until you said what
    42        you did say.
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:  There is no objection to it being there.
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    46   MS. STEEL:  There are two problems.  Firstly, we cannot operate
    47        it from over there, but also that -----
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    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All you want is to have it on, do you not?
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    51   MS. STEEL:  But we have to turn the tapes, and things like that. 
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    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How often does that happen?
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    55   MS. STEEL:  Every 45 minutes.  But it is -----
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    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I cannot engineer things for you.  If you
    58        want to place it somewhere else, then tell me about it.
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    60   MS. STEEL:  It is also the point that it is because we do not