Day 173 - 16 Oct 95 - Page 18

     
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     2   Q.   In the crew handbook, the pay increases are set out, which
     3        you have also mentioned in your statement, as 0 to 12 pence
     4        depending on their grading; and there are five different
     5        grades.  Do you know what percentage of crew usually get
     6        what grade and, therefore, what rise?
     7        A.  No.
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     9   Q.   You have no idea?
    10        A.  No.  I cannot recall.
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    12   Q.   Do you have anything to do with wage increases at all,
    13        performance related wage increases?
    14        A.  In the restaurants?
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    16   Q.   Yes.
    17        A.  No.  That was the management's responsibility.
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    19   Q.   Has that always been the case?
    20        A.  Yes.
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    22   Q.   The wage rates are set by the JLC.  Do they set overtime
    23        rates as well?
    24        A.  Yes, they do.
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    26   Q.   And is that one and a half times the normal rate?
    27        A.  Yes.
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    29   Q.   So that would have been -- although they did not apply to
    30        Dublin, that would have been standard practice across
    31        industry at that time?
    32        A.  Yes, I would imagine so.
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    34   MR. MORRIS:  Do you know the reasoning behind the payment of
    35        overtime being a part of the national agreement?
    36        I mean -----
    37        A.  I am not quite sure I understand your question.
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    39   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it is not surprising.  He is not the
    40        Irish Government.
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    42   MR. MORRIS:  You are part of the industry.  That is why -----
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    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why do you not put what you think it is?
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    46   MR. MORRIS:  Is the payment of overtime, which would be -- one
    47        and a half times would be the set agreement, presumably
    48        minimum, paid because it is expected that would be the fair
    49        thing to do, that if people worked more than 40 hours, they
    50        should be paid overtime? 
    51        A.  Yes, it is -- I think it is.  The overtime clause 
    52        within the labour laws in the country, to my knowledge, is 
    53        there because obviously that is what, you know, the
    54        government expect employers to do, after the normal working
    55        week.
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    57   MS. STEEL:   You said in your statement on page 13 -- I do not
    58        know whether you want to look at it or not.  It is actually
    59        bundle page 136, if you do.
    60        A.  Just one moment.  146?