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     1   MR. MORRIS:  Between April 1980 and November 1991, you were
     2        employed as a full-time officer with the Transport and
     3        General Workers Union; is that correct?
     4        A.  That is correct.
     5
     6   Q.   Working from the local office in North Gower Street,
     7        Central London?
     8        A.  Yes.
     9
    10   Q.   Have you got your statement in front of you?  In fact, you
    11        made two statements, a short one and a longer one.
    12        A.  I have the longer one in front of me.
    13
    14   Q.   Right.  Can you go to it?  It is the Defendants' witnesses
    15        statements volume 2 -- I do not know exactly.  It is light
    16        blue.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is on the top shelf, the one with the "2"
    19        on it.  If you look at divider 9 there -----
    20
    THE WITNESS:   Thank you.
    22
    23   MR. MORRIS:  Does the first one say: "1. Between April 1980",
    24        etcetera?
    25        A.  It does.
    26
    27   Q.   Right.  I will read this first statement out, and if there
    28        is anything inaccurate you can stop me and I will ask you
    29        if you agree with it.
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, before that happens, I observe, though
    32        not to make an objection, that both this statement and the
    33        second statement contain what is quite obviously a
    34        substantial quantity of hearsay in relation to, for
    35        example, in paragraph 2 of this statement, the experiences
    36        of Mr. McGee and, in paragraph 3, what he has been told.
    37
    38        I do not object to that, because an expert is entitled to
    39        form a view on what he has been told.  I merely observe
    40        that there is hearsay in both of these statements.
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Then let it all be read, but really for the
    43        Defendants' benefit.  Unless they press an argument to the
    44        contrary to me, I would not be able to take the matters set
    45        out in the second paragraph from "in at least one case" to
    46        the end, nor in paragraph 3, as evidence of the truth of
    47        what was said.
    48
    49   MR. RAMPTON:  Quite.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  But it is very unlikely to make any 
    52        difference to the overall weight of the case on one side or 
    53        the other.  If you have no objection, Mr. Rampton ---
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON:  I do not object.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- to it being read, so be it.
    58
    59   MR. MORRIS:  I will read out this statement.
    60