Day 181 - 01 Nov 95 - Page 03
1 I did not want to say this last night, because I was not
2 100 per cent sure of it, but I did recollect that I had
3 made some previous calculations either when Mr. Nicholson
4 was in the box or Mr. Davies. I could not remember who
5 for. I checked last night, and it was actually the time
6 sheet for Pearson.
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8 As far as I can tell, although I have not done it in a very
9 detailed way because of the length of time it takes, but
10 just on the basic figures, there did not appear to be any
11 clear breaches, according to the Plaintiffs' interpretation
12 of what the law is.
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14 However, I just want to make the point that because they
15 are fortnightly, that does not put them in the clear,
16 because it does mean that there might be a breach in any
17 individual week.
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19 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If I am right, they are not in the clear,
20 anyway. Even if one supposes, let us suppose, for
21 instance, that Mr. Alimi worked more in one week than the
22 other; all that would mean is that he is more underpaid in
23 one week. If he has worked any time at all, if my
24 calculations are right -- and they may well be wrong -- if
25 he works any overtime at all, he is automatically
26 underpaid, because his basic rate of 1.99 was only .02 of a
27 penny more than the minimum anyway, or something like
28 that. But let us leave it.
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30 MS. STEEL: I think Mr. Morris has something to say as well, but
31 I also wanted to ask Mr. Pearson something about -- because
32 we have not got the pay rates for 1985, so I wanted to ask
33 about whether the system was the same.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I have one or two matters very shortly
36 I would like to ask Mr. Pearson, so let me do that; and
37 then you can continue.
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39 MS. STEEL: OK.
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41 PHILIP PEARSON, recalled
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Pearson, would you mind getting pink XII,
44 please, again? It is the bundle you were looking at
45 yesterday. Turn to divider 26. If you look at
46 page 641 ---
47 A. Yes, my Lord.
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49 Q. -- where it deals with, under paragraph 9, note 3: "In any
50 week exclusive of time worked on a weekly rest day or on a
51 customary holiday, for all time worked in excess of
52 39 hours one half of the hourly rate....."
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54 Is that interpreted as meaning one and a half of the basic
55 hourly rate, or, if the overtime worked is during evening
56 or premium hours, one half on top of the evening or premium
57 rate?
58 A. It is time and a half on the premium.
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60 Q. So it is time and a half on the minimum rate applying at