Day 240 - 24 Apr 96 - Page 07


     
     1        I think that is basically it.
     2
     3   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Mr. Rampton, is there anything you want
     4        to say?
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I heartily endorse.  I was going to make
     7        various submissions which, as it were, were anticipated by
     8        your Lordship.  I have nothing to say.  I have this to say
     9        in addition, that even if the majority, perhaps 90 per cent
    10        of this statement, were not objectionable for the reasons
    11        that your Lordship has given, it is objectionable for two
    12        other reasons:  The first is that Mr. Secrett has arrogated
    13        himself a definition of the issues in this case, which he
    14        has got wrong, and he has also arrogated to himself a
    15        decision about where the burden of proof lies in this case,
    16        which he has also got wrong, and for those two additional
    17        reasons, this whole statement is objectionable, but
    18        certainly in the respects that your Lordship has indicated.
    19
    20        I say this:  It is, to my mind, completely irrelevant what
    21        McDonald's might have said to him or anybody else back in
    22        whenever it was, to the resolution of the issues in this
    23        case.  It may well be a matter for an argument in another
    24        forum chosen by Mr. Secrett but he does not choose his
    25        forum.  I do not believe it to be appropriate that he
    26        should use that witness box as a platform for what appears
    27        to be some kind of private vendetta against McDonald's.
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:  I do not know if any note is going to be taken of
    30        the additional points Mr. Rampton has raised?
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will bear those in mind in the future when
    33        I have to do a large exercise in sorting the wheat from the
    34        chaff anyway and I will hear anything you wish to say in
    35        relation to that, but you need not deal with those in
    36        answer today.
    37
    38   MS. STEEL:  I just say that Mr. Rampton has recently kept making
    39        speeches criticising our evidence and we are not getting an
    40        opportunity to come back and I think that it would be
    41        better if Mr. Rampton kept those until his closing speeches
    42        at the end.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You can answer if you want but I am telling
    45        you it is not necessary to do so because I will be in a
    46        better position to sort the wheat from the chaff when
    47        I have heard the evidence, save in the respects where it is
    48        seems to me obvious that evidence is not admissible, and it
    49        is only when it seemed to be obvious that it cannot
    50        possibly be admissible by any kind of argument that I have 
    51        excluded it. 
    52 
    53        Is there anything more you want to say in addition to what
    54        you said before?
    55
    56   MS. STEEL:   No.  The only point I make now in answer to what
    57        Mr. Rampton has just said is that, as far as we can see,
    58        Mr. Secrett has concentrated on the issues in the case.  It
    59        may not be the issues as Mr. Rampton sees them but it has
    60        already been quite apparent that there is disagreement

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