Day 243 - 02 May 96 - Page 28


     
     1        result of a recent application made by the other side,
     2        namely, the Defendants, but obviously the sooner any
     3        statements, supplementary statements, are provided, the
     4        better.
     5
     6   MR. RAMPTON:  The ground work has been done; it is only a
     7        question now of getting the statements in proper form and
     8        delivering them.  I do not know how long that will take.
     9        I will not, if I may be forgiven, give an actual deadline
    10        for it, but it will be soon rather than late.  My Lord, I
    11        do not think I have anything else.
    12
    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I would like, obviously, to be kept up to
    14        date on any of these things.
    15
    16        Ms. Steel and Mr. Morris, it seems to me that you and your
    17        publication witnesses ought to be ready to fill time from
    18        Monday, 24th June, onwards.
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:   There is actually something I wanted to ask about
    21        our evidence, because when Mr. Rampton said he put down a
    22        week for each of us, one thing I was not clear about was
    23        how long of that he thought was going to be
    24        cross-examination, because he said he was going to be quite
    25        a long time cross-examining you.  Obviously, we have to
    26        think about how long we think we may be giving evidence,
    27        bearing in mind that we have to refer to documents for the
    28        sake of malice and things like that.
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I would like you to give some thought
    31        to how long you expect to take in-chief.  At the moment,
    32        I have your statements and, as far as I am concerned, your
    33        evidence is in your statements with this rider, that you
    34        may wish to say something in your own defence with regard
    35        to the allegation of malice, even if it is in very general
    36        terms, as to what you believe and why you believe that.  It
    37        need not be, it seems to me, in great detail.
    38
    39        What you have to think about is if you say that you believe
    40        something to be so, you have to think how you can, put
    41        quite shortly, whether by reference to documents or
    42        otherwise, why you say that is so.
    43
    44        You may very well be -- indeed, I expect you will be --
    45        cross-examined about it to some extent.  That is a matter
    46        for Mr. Rampton.  It may be that your evidence-in-chief
    47        will not be very, very long.  You have to deal with the
    48        case of publication against you.  You have to deal with
    49        that.  You may have some direct evidence to give on other
    50        aspects, but you have to be careful that it is admissible 
    51        and it does not basically appear in your statements at the 
    52        moment. 
    53
    54        So, if there are any other aspects on which you feel you
    55        can give admissible evidence and you would wish to do so,
    56        you have to produce some written notice of that fairly
    57        promptly.  I am not encouraging you to think that that is
    58        so.
    59
    60   MS. STEEL:   There are some things; for example, the photographs

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