Day 251 - 17 May 96 - Page 07
1 A. Yes.
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3 Q. Have you found it?
4 A. Yes.
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6 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Let me make sure I have it.
7 A. Just a minute. I cannot actually mark --- is it
8 actually marked "Nova Xavantina" on that map?
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10 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it is on the fold. It is above a little
11 blot of bright green called "FS".
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13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You will have to remind me completely where
14 it is.
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16 MR. RAMPTON: It is eastwards. If your Lordship has got Cuiaba,
17 if you go east-north-east from there, one comes to a dotted
18 road going north-south.
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20 THE WITNESS: Yes, here it is. Yes.
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22 Q. On my map just below the fold which, I am afraid, is
23 deteriorating, there a little heart-shaped block of, sort
24 of, mustardy green.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can you just point and hold the map up?
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28 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, I will, my Lord. It is there.
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30 MR. MORRIS: Under the river, that sort of hand-shaped river
31 basin thing underneath the most eastward ------
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33 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, where it is from Barra do Garcas?
34 A. It is just north, yes.
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36 MR. MORRIS: One inch north of there.
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38 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, I have it. Thank you very much.
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40 MR. MORRIS (To the witness): Can you see what they have called
41 the area of agricultural activity, the dotted area around
42 Nova Xavantina, around that area, around the heart-shaped
43 green piece?
44 A. Yes.
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46 Q. You said you have been to Nova Xavantina. What do you know
47 about that area, how many times have you been -----
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49 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you restricting Miss Branford to the area
50 with dots on, do you want to do that?
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52 MR. MORRIS: Not necessarily. I cannot remember but I think
53 Mr. Rampton did point to that area with other witnesses.
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55 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Why not just ask about the area around Nova
56 Xavantina generally.
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58 MR. MORRIS: Yes, all right. (To the witness): The area around
59 Nova Xavantina, have seen the effects of any forest
60 clearance? Have you seen forestry clearance in that area?