Day 253 - 21 May 96 - Page 07

     
     1        good thing that the typical dietary patterns traditionally
     2        associated with affluence become widespread and established
     3        within the developing countries' populations.  Well, the
     4        whole of the evidence was about the growth of chronic
     5        diseases in, especially, affluent societies.
     6
     7        McDonald's case is they do not contribute to that so they
     8        do not have a problem with that.  We know what the case is,
     9        so that is a perfectly fair question and there is no
    10        implication that McDonald's food is affected because that
    11        is open to argument about the evidence of other witnesses.
    12        So, I do not think that is a problem.
    13
    14        The same with the role of advertising in developing
    15        countries, and Mr. Naismith dealt with that second one in
    16        his answer in a kind of...  What is the word -- he did not
    17        say, "Yes, I agree with that", he said "Well, I am not
    18        quite sure what traditional foods you are talking about"
    19        and he defended people's right to eat snacks and soft
    20        drinks.  So, in any event, I do not think Mr. Rampton
         should be allowed in by the back door to get in a lot of
    22        the points that he would hope to have made.
    23
    24        If you think he should just be asked to clarify whether he
    25        was referring to McDonald's food, and the witness answers
    26        "yes" or "no", if that is the way you are thinking, as
    27        long as he does not go into matters that were specifically
    28        excluded, because that would mean we should have the
    29        opportunity to test any detail, because in fact there is an
    30        enormous amount of detail in his statement which we would
    31        have brought up if we were forced to this morning to
    32        challenge his observations about the nutritional content of
    33        McDonald's food, but if it is a sheer clarification, 'Was
    34        he referring to McDonald's food and it might be a good idea
    35        that typical dietary patterns do not get exported into
    36        developing countries', I mean, something like that, I do
    37        not think we could object to that.
    38
    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is all Mr. Rampton is asking for.
    40
    MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    42
    43                [For Ruling- see separate transcript]
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Right, now you have to complete your
    46        cross-examination.  It is obvious, as I think you are
    47        aware, that you have to be careful to stick to diet
    48        generally and cardio-vascular disease.
    49
    50   MR. MORRIS:  Yes. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am sure you will, but bear that in mind so 
    53        we do not have any other questions which arise before
    54        re-examination of it.  What I would like you to do is, when
    55        you get to what would otherwise be the end of your
    56        cross-examination, indicate that to me and I will ask
    57        Mr. Rampton whether any other potential problem arises in
    58        re-examination before he embarks on re-examination.
    59
    60   MR. MORRIS:  I am happy, if a question I ask is thought to be