Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 03

     
     1        own.
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     3   MR. MORRIS:  Because mine are in a different order and ---
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     5   MR. RAMPTON:  There is an index.
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     7   MR. MORRIS: -- not paginated.
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     9   MR. RAMPTON:  There is an index.
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    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If there is an index, I would like that,
    12        because if I find time I can check.
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    14   MR. RAMPTON:  Your Lordship should have the index.  They have
    15        got the index, too.  So it is a very simple matter to
    16        reorder one's papers.
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    18   MS. STEEL:   The only thing is, Mr. Rampton was referring to a
    19        paginated version, and if he is going to be saying all the
    20        page numbers of where we find these things then, obviously,
         if we do not have that, then -- I mean, it is not the end
    22        of the day, but it is just going to make matters easier.
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    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Does the index have the page number?
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    26   MR. RAMPTON:  No.  That is why I was a bit rude to
    27        Mrs. Brinley-Codd.  She has not had time.
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    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If in due course the index can -----
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    31   MR. RAMPTON:  If the index is paginated, there is no need for us
    32        to produce 150 pages of copy notes, which I am averse to.
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    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Provided everyone has the index with the page
    35        numbers on it, then that is sufficient, it seems to me.
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    37   MR. MORRIS:  We have counsel here.
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    39   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Mr. Hall?
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    MR. MORRIS:  Peter Hall, who is prepared to make a submission on
    42        our behalf, if it is agreeable to everybody.  But he wants
    43        to do it a bit later.  We want to get on with the witness,
    44        basically, and then have the -----
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am grateful to Mr. Hall for his skeleton
    47        argument, which I read through quickly before I came to
    48        court.
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    50        What I did not appreciate is that you were necessarily 
    51        asking for discovery of all notes made by all inquiry 
    52        agents.  If that is so, what I said about hearing the 
    53        argument when a particular point arises is not necessarily
    54        so, though I would still, I think, probably prefer that.
    55        That is the first point.  So, I would quite like to get on
    56        with Mr. Bishop, as you have just suggested.
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    58        The other matter is this -- which Mr. Hall might care to
    59        think about -- there seem to me at the moment to be two
    60        questions:  firstly, whether the inquiry agents' notes or