Day 260 - 11 Jun 96 - Page 07

     
     1   Q.   Not Mr. Gravett, or Mr. Clarke, or Mr. O'Farrell, who were
     2        the other Defendants?
     3        A.  Mr. Clarke and Mr. O'Farrell I was not given
     4        descriptions of, to the best of my knowledge.  I may have
     5        been given a description of Mr. Gravett, but over this time
     6        I cannot recall.
     7
     8   Q.   Anything else?
     9        A.  Please expand.
    10
    11   Q.   Sorry?
    12        A.  I am not quite sure what you mean.
    13
    14   Q.   Were you given any other instructions?
    15        A.  No.  My instructions were, as I have said, to observe
    16        what happened and report on what happened.
    17
    18   Q.   Were you shown any photographs of people who might be
    19        attending the meetings, or anything to do with -----
    20        A.  No.  I have never been shown any photographs, except
         after my involvement with the case ended.
    22
    23   Q.   So, you were not told that the inquiry was about
    24        McDonald's?
    25        A.  No.  This is normal practice for freelance
    26        investigators.
    27
    28   Q.   Why?
    29        A.  Commercial considerations, I would imagine.
    30
    31   Q.   Were you told anything about the nature of the group?
    32        A.  I was led to believe at the time, or I assumed at the
    33        time, that the group's activities were in the realm of
    34        being animal rights supporters; and, in fact, I have always
    35        referred to this case as the animal rights case.  That is
    36        what I thought I was looking at, initially.
    37
    38   Q.   You cannot remember what they said to you?
    39        A.  Who?
    40
    Q.   Who was it from Kings who -----
    42        A.  Mr. Hartley.
    43
    44   Q.   Mr. Hartley.  Right.  What did he say to you about what the
    45        nature of the group was?
    46        A.  He did not.  He said that this group is populated by
    47        some animal rights supporters, and it is necessary to find
    48        out what is being said at their meetings.
    49
    50   Q.   Did he ask you about -- I will deal with that later.  You 
    51        were not told to look out for any specific leaflet? 
    52        A.  No, I was not. 
    53
    54   Q.   No?
    55        A.  No.
    56
    57   Q.   Right.  Did you ever become aware that the inquiry was
    58        about a specific leaflet?
    59        A.  I did not become aware that the inquiry was about a
    60        specific leaflet.  I became aware that the inquiry was in