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     2   MS. STEEL:   The last paragraph, about halfway, two-thirds of
     3        the way down.
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     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  "These doors"?
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     7   MS. STEEL:   Yes.
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     9        "These doors had the logo 'the McPloughman room' on a
    10        plaque above them.  I could not see what was beyond these
    11        doors.  To the right of these double doors was a small
    12        window which was open.  This casement, left hinged window
    13        had no security locks on the frame and opened out to the
    14        outside.  I imagine that the London Gay and Lesbian
    15        switchboard is occupied 24 hours a day."
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    17        You confirm that is an accurate record of what you noted at
    18        the time?
    19        A.  Yes.
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    Q.   Were you of the view that the agency might be interested in
    22        entering the London Greenpeace premises in order to obtain
    23        further information?
    24        A.  No.
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    26   Q.   What was the point in including the information that the
    27        window had no security locks and that the London Gay and
    28        Lesbian switchboard might be occupied 24 hours a day?
    29        A.  Because that is what -- because the window did not have
    30        any security locks, and that is what I imagined the London
    31        Gay and Lesbian switchboard to be so occupied.
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    33   Q.   What would be any possible relevance of that, other than to
    34        give advice to somebody who might be interested in getting
    35        into London Greenpeace's offices?
    36        A.  It was a general description of what I saw.
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    38   Q.   I put it to you that there is no relevance other than to
    39        inform anybody who might be interested to burgle
    40        London Greenpeace's offices?
         A.  That is incorrect.
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    43   MS. STEEL:  No further questions.
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    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    47                     Re-examined by MR. RAMPTON Q.C.
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    49   MR. RAMPTON:  Mr. Bishop, I forget whether it was yesterday or
    50        the day before, but Ms. Steel put a question to you in 
    51        cross-examination something along these lines -- this is my 
    52        note, so it may not be verbatim -- question: "If the group 
    53        agreed to do something as a group, you would have made a
    54        notes of it, would you?"  Answer by you: "Yes."  Do you
    55        remember that?
    56        A.  I remember the question.
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    58   Q.   Yes.  Could I ask you now to please look at some of your
    59        notes?  First of all, 2nd August.  My Lord, that is
    60        page 163.  It starts on page 162.