Day 263 - 14 Jun 96 - Page 04


     
     1        But there we are, anyway.
     2
     3   MS. STEEL:  I could get on with the argument now.  There was one
     4        thing I did want to raise, which is about
     5        Professor Crawford.  The situation is that we have finally
     6        got this morning a draft statement which we have not even
     7        had time to read.  It is very detailed, and it refers to
     8        some references which we have not got.  Now, I presumed --
     9        well, not only is it a problem for us because we have not
    10        had a chance to read it, but I have also presumed that the
    11        Plaintiffs probably would not be very happy about not
    12        having a chance to speak to their witnesses about what
    13        Professor Crawford was saying.
    14
    15        I asked Professor Crawford yesterday evening if there was
    16        any other time he could attend, and he said that he is
    17        available on the 25th and 26th.  So, we were going to
    18        suggest that he could be moved to those dates.  I have
    19        spoken to Jane Laporte, and she can basically do any time
    20        apart from Tuesday afternoon; so she can be moved anyway.
    21        I am fairly sure Mr. Gravett will be able to be moved.
    22        Then we could finish off the publication witnesses,
    23        Mr. Clare, and, if necessary, if that is not dealt with
    24        this morning -- sorry, this afternoon -- Mr. Russell on the
    25        Monday and the Tuesday.
    26
    27        I just thought I ought to bring that up at the beginning,
    28        rather -----
    29
    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do you have anything to say that about that?
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  No, I do not.  I cannot say anything until I have
    33        seen the report.  But if there is a lot of detail and, in
    34        particular, if there are scientific statements which I have
    35        not seen and my witnesses have not seen, plainly I shall be
    36        most unhappy to have to deal with Professor Crawford on
    37        Monday.  Provided the days are filled as best possible,
    38        I am content, I do not mind which order the witnesses come
    39        in, provided I have enough time to prepare.
    40
    41        The only thing I would say in the light of what Ms. Steel
    42        has said is this.  There are only four more meetings left
    43        for Mr. Pocklington.  Mr. Russell is now in London, having
    44        come up from the country.  It would be highly regrettable
    45        if he were not heard today.  Mr. Clare, anyway, I have
    46        transferred to -- I am being realistic about that.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Will we finish Mr. Russell today, if we start
    49        him today?
    50 
    51   MR. RAMPTON:  He is only one meeting. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  How long do you think Mr. Russell will be?
    54
    55   MS. STEEL:   I do not know, to be honest.  I am not trying to
    56        say we should not hear him today.  I just thought that it
    57        was likely he was not going to be finished today.  The
    58        other thing is, so far as I am aware, he actually works in
    59        London.  So, I am not quite sure -----
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