Day 266 - 20 Jun 96 - Page 06

     
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     2   Q.   Which end of the 15-30 per cent?
     3        A.  To make a change in peoples' likelihood of getting
     4        disease I would go towards the lower limit of 15 per cent
     5        if you want to prevent people dying from preventable
     6        diseases.
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     8   Q.   Right.  Would that include heart disease and some types of
     9        cancer?
    10        A.   It would include heart disease/strokes, some types of
    11        cancer.
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    13   Q.   OK?
    14        A.   Including bowel cancer, breast cancer, and other
    15        cancers as well.
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    17   Q.   Right.  OK.  If we go on.  The following page of the
    18        statement.  The NACNE Report.  Do you just want to say what
    19        NACNE is?
    20        A.   The NACNE Report were the guidelines produced by
         committee around the time that the McDonald's leaflet was
    22        written and that was the advice currently used by most
    23        health professionals giving dietary advice.
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    25   Q.   You mean throughout the '80s or?
    26        A.   I believe it was, it came about 1983.  I think it had
    27        been suppressed for a while.  Because the results of the
    28        report were unsatisfactory to many of the food industries
    29        that was suppressed at the time, but the truth is that that
    30        was the advice at the time.  When it was finally published
    31        that was the advice that most people gave in terms of
    32        reducing the disease, preventable diseases.
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    34   Q.   Right.  There should be a copy of the NACNE Report I think
    35        behind your statement?
    36        A.   No.
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    38   Q.   It has been referred to in Court before.
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    40   MR. RAMPTON:  Your Honour it is, in fact, probably going to be
         found in one of those sickly green backed binders because
    42         -- I think 'eau-de-nil' Mrs. Brinley-Codd calls it -- and
    43        it has a name on the outside.  I cannot see one because I
    44        have not got one with me.
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    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Thank you.
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    48   MR. RAMPTON:  I know there is such a file.  I am sorry I do not
    49        have it.  It will be over there somewhere.
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    51   MS. STEEL:  Well, we have got a copy but I thought that on the
    52        last time we referred to it everyone else had it behind 
    53        Miss Brophy's statement.
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    55   MR. RAMPTON:  I am only guessing.
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    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What is it actually called?
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    59   MS. STEEL:   The Health Education Council, a discussion paper on
    60        proposals or nutritional guidelines for health education in