Day 275 - 08 Jul 96 - Page 07


     
     1        Act notices in place.  There is one other possibility that
     2        for English documents we might have to call a witness, or
     3        witnesses -- might have to -- and again perhaps one could
     4        do it during that week.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Let us see how we go.  All I will say is that
     7        I am not saying we will sit on 1st and 2nd August but
     8        everyone ought to be prepared for the possibility if there
     9        is some problem.  It works both ways in case you need the
    10        time for proof of documents or in case Miss Steel or Mr.
    11        Morris need the time for proof of documents.  I cannot sit
    12        after 2nd August, and I have made no check as to court
    13        arrangements.  All I am prepared to say in open court is
    14        that everyone, the parties, should be prepared for the
    15        possibility that that will be necessary in order to avoid
    16        even greater inconvenience at some time.  I want to avoid
    17        if possible coming back in early September because I want
    18        everyone to be working on their submissions at that time.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I am going to be away the last week in July.
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Well, that is entirely a matter for
    23        you.  The case will have to go on whether you are here or
    24        not.  We will try and work round that so that there is no
    25        handicap.  But the case must go on.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:  Well, my Lord, apart from that--
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Bear that in mind, Mr. Rampton.  If we can
    30        work around that so much the better.
    31
    32   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I will only say this, apart from that
    33        possible problem, but it may not be because it may be in
    34        the end that Mr. Atkinson and Mr. Morris can agree most of
    35        it, as to which I would only say that proof of many of
    36        these documents lies in our hands and it would be very
    37        difficult for the defendants to proof many of them, if not
    38        impossible.  And in aid of that, I urge -- I know that we
    39        shall be -- a reluctance to be selective.  Obviously, I am
    40        not expecting the defendants to agree what they would
    41        characterise as McDonald's own self-congratulatory
    42        statements, or anything like that, but where facts and
    43        figures are concerned, if they be facts, then I would urge
    44        that one does not pick and choose.
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All I would say, and again this works both
    47        ways, although it always seems as if the defendants are
    48        being asked to admit your documents because you produced
    49        the list of ones you want admitted, but I am sure everyone
    50        will remember what I said on a previous occasion, that
    51        whether one likes what is in a document or not, in the case
    52        of many of these documents the Plaintiffs seek to gain
    53        something and the defendants seek to gain something, but if
    54        the realistic assessment is that if they are not admitted
    55        your clients will be able to prove them formally without
    56        too much difficulty, or if the defendants want to rely on a
    57        document and the reality is that it is a document put into
    58        circulation by one of your clients so I am likely to
    59        interpret it as their point of view on something or other,
    60        so proof of the relevant parts, or acceptance of the

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