Day 278 - 11 Jul 96 - Page 09
1 A. Actually, I have not got them. I am thinking of the
2 other pleadings.
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4 Q. Can I ask you to look at the paragraph entitled, "Big B,
5 Recycling Waste" on what is the third page of the pleading
6 at page 825, my Lord.
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8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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10 MR. RAMPTON: The third paragraph under "Recycling Waste" says
11 this: "In 1972 Bruce Hannon, an engineer at the University
12 of Illinois determined that 315 square miles of forest
13 would have to be cut down to keep McDonald's supplied with
14 paper packaging for one year." Did you read this defence
15 before it was served or these particulars?
16 A. I expect I read it, yes.
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18 Q. That is not what Mr. Hannon said at all was it? Shall I
19 show you what Mr. Hannon said? My Lord, this is a document
20 disclosed by Mr. Morris.
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22 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I remember Mr. Morris just interjecting to
23 point out that the article which it--
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25 MR. RAMPTON: I had a problem finding--
26 A. We only got this article, I think, within the last
27 couple of years so it can't have been that that was used to
28 write the pleading.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Well, you borrow it for a moment, but
31 somewhere I have actually put this in a file.
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33 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it is only a very short passage.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I don't want more than one copy. That is the
36 trouble, I end up with several copies of everything.
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38 MR. RAMPTON: I will have to check the transcript for that last
39 answer, Miss Steel, but my recollection is that Mr. Morris
40 said at the time was that somehow it got overlooked because
41 it was sitting in one of the many piles of papers at his
42 house; do you remember that?
43 A. I don't remember, to be honest. I remember that it was
44 only served in the last couple of years.
45
46 Q. If you would be kind enough, please, look at the two
47 paragraphs at the bottom of the first column above the
48 cross-heading, "fourth largest". It says McDonald's--
49 A. Where are we?
50
51 Q. Sorry, first column, the two paragraphs above the
52 cross-heading at the bottom, top of the page, "fourth
53 largest", and it says, "McDonald's total consumption of
54 paper nevertheless is £174M a year and growing". Hannon
55 said, "It takes a sustained yield of 315 square miles of
56 forest to keep supplied with paper packaging for one year",
57 he said?
58 A. I cannot actually. You said underneath the heading?
59
60 Q. Sorry, above the heading.
