Day 287 - 25 Oct 96 - Page 06


     
     1        re-reading yours, that is all.
     2
     3   MR. MORRIS:   Right.  I think I can probably deal with Guatemala
     4        as it is the most obvious next point.
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
     7
     8   MR. MORRIS:   I have a map here, the Cesca map, Cesca's
     9        Guatemala map, which I have copied to all parties.  What
    10        I have done is attempted to identify the band or swathe of
    11        tropical rainforest in the Cotter map.  I do not know the
    12        reference for the Cotter map.  It should be in our
    13        Civil Evidence Act notices.  I am sorry, I do not know what
    14        volume.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not worry, keep going.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:   It might be helpful though -- well, I think the
    19        parties can satisfy themselves and you can satisfy yourself
    20        on the accuracy of my -----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Assume it is accurate and say what you want
    23        to about that.
    24
    25   MR. MORRIS:   Yes.  The solid blue markings represent, on the
    26        Cesca map, superimposed on the Cesca map, what Dr. Cotter
    27        has identified based upon his work with Jim Nations, Dr.
    28        Nations and verified in the statement before us.  The areas
    29        of tropical rainforest, what he calls Nearctic tropical
    30        rainforests, which have been deforested since 1940, that is
    31        the dark blue.  I mean the shaded-in blue.  And the dotted
    32        blue area is the area which he says was surviving
    33        rainforest in 1982.
    34
    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Yes.
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:   And superimposed on McDonald's own map of where
    38        they get their supplies from, it is obvious that the solid
    39        block of identifiable rainforest deforested since 1940
    40        includes substantial areas that are now cattle ranching for
    41        McDonald's.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   Now, so I do not miss something, that is all
    44        in the bottom swathe, is it?
    45
    46   MR. MORRIS:   No, on the east side there is a circle around,
    47        above, Zacapa, which also supplies McDonald's.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I see, yes.
    50 
    51   MR. MORRIS:   Mr. Cesca gave evidence to that effect. 
    52 
    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well now, just let me check again.  I do not
    54        say I can forget the dotted blue, but none of the straight
    55        up and down lines are in dotted blue areas?
    56
    57   MR. MORRIS:   No.
    58
    59   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Very well.
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