Day 289 - 29 Oct 96 - Page 12
1 Obviously, the motive for the broiler industry doing that
2 is profit. (Pause)
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4 Sorry, if I could just add to that that they could, if they
5 chose, employ more people to look after the welfare of the
6 chickens and clean out the living quarters, or whatever you
7 want to call it, and just generally have a less intensive
8 system, but obviously they would not be able to make their
9 profits as fast. If I could just check something?
10 (Pause)
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12 MR JUSTICE BELL: What are you going to go on to next? We have
13 to have a five minute break some time in about the next ten
14 minutes. Do you want it now?
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16 MS. STEEL: Yes, it might be a good idea.
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18 (Short Adjournment)
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20 MS. STEEL: Moving on to the five freedoms, this was initially
21 covered by Dr. Gregory on day 19, starting on page 3, and
22 the five basic needs were freedom from thirst, hunger and
23 malnutrition, appropriate comfort and shelter, the
24 prevention of or rapid diagnosis and treatment of injury,
25 disease or infestation, freedom from fear and freedom to
26 display most normal patterns of behaviour. I have not got
27 a reference for that.
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29 MR JUSTICE BELL: I do not think you need it. It crops up in
30 a number of situations with the five freedoms expressed in
31 slightly different ways but amounting to the same things.
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33 MS. STEEL: Yes, that was actually taken directly from a
34 transcript but I don't know where. There is another
35 reference to it on page 3, which is worded slightly
36 differently. Sorry, a lot of typing mistakes and spelling
37 mistakes.
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39 MR JUSTICE BELL: They are totally trivial. Do not worry about
40 that.
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42 MS. STEEL: That some of the five freedoms were restricted at
43 Sun Valley. For some reason I have not got the reference
44 for this part either. I do not know what happened there.
45 But there is reference lower down. It is probably around
46 the same pages, roughly.
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48 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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50 MS. STEEL: He agreed that some of the five freedoms were
51 restricted freedoms to display normal patterns of
52 behaviour, that the ones that could be most criticised at
53 Sun Valley, if one was bearing in mind the animal welfare
54 requirements, is perhaps space allowance for the birds and
55 variety in the environment. His view was that the chickens
56 could express more normal patterns of behaviour if they
57 were given additional facilities, which did occur at some
58 other companies. And he gave an example of a company in
59 Ireland where the birds were stocked at a lower density
60 where roughage materials were provided for birds to eat as
