Day 291 - 31 Oct 96 - Page 15


     
     1        any head restraints, but there was the small structure.
     2        But, anyway, that is just comment one way or the other.
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     4   MS. STEEL:   Well, I mean -----
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     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  This supports your point, does it not?
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     8   MS. STEEL:   I do not know.  It was four years ago that
     9        Mr. Chambers said they were brought in.
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    11   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   May be he is right, may be he is wrong.
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    13   MS. STEEL:   Right.
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    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:   I don't know, it is just another matter of
    16        detail in this case.
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    18   MS. STEEL:   Yes.  On day 97, page 84, line 31 Mr. Chambers was
    19        asked, "What changes, improvements, if any, have been made
    20        in the last four or five years so far as animal welfare is
    21        concerned?"  Mr. Chambers said, "Quite a considerable
    22        number of changes to the layout of our lairage.  In fact,
    23        we are just about to start a new project with a new
    24        lairage, a larger lairage, where, obviously, a lot of the
    25        animal welfare considerations have been taken into account
    26        with the design of it."  That was doing away with the
    27        ramps, and so on.  I am not sure if that was all the
    28        improvements that had been made in terms of animal welfare
    29        in the last four or five years.
    30
    31        The other thing is that on day 97, page 45, line 47
    32        Mr. Chambers said that Midland Meat certainly did care
    33        about the animals' welfare for commercial reasons as much
    34        as anything else, and we say that basically they will take
    35        note of the welfare if it is in their interests to but if
    36        it is going to get in the way to any great extent then the
    37        welfare is going to come a poor second to the company's
    38        profits.
    39
    40        Going on to the evidence of Dr. Gregory about cattle;
    41        Mr. Gregory was asked whether or not he had visited any of
    42        the farms that supply, or where the cattle originate from
    43        that are used by McDonald's.  This was on day 18, page 72.
    44        He said, "No, I think you will find, and I am open to
    45        correction on this, that since they are mainly supplying
    46        cow beef to McKeys a lot of those animals will be bought
    47        through the auction market. That being the case, it would
    48        be quite difficult to source those cows in terms of their
    49        farm of origin."  He got that information from the buyer
    50        for McKeys. 
    51 
    52        He was asked whether or not there was a particular age 
    53        range in terms of the cows.  He said it would be unlikely,
    54        "You tend to get what you can buy, so they would be cull
    55        cows, ones which the farmer no longer wants to keep, that
    56        could be because they have a disorder.  It could be that
    57        they have outlasted what he considers to be their
    58        productive life.  It might be because they are barren, they
    59        are not breeding properly.  So, for whatever reason, he
    60        decides to dispose of them, they would be made available.

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