Day 313 - 13 Dec 96 - Page 09

     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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     4   MR. MORRIS:  Can I just say one thing?  Sorry, just I wanted to
     5        point to the admission by McDonald's, it was page 18 of the
     6        employment abstract of pleadings.  I wanted to point this
     7        out because Mr. Rampton was not admitting this in his legal
     8        submission, that this was a statutory lunch break, and they
     9        were fined in 1982 in Guildford magistrates court for-----
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    11   MR. RAMPTON:  If this is a legal submission, my Lord, I object.
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    13   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
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    15   MR. RAMPTON:  For very good reason.  This is not a legal
    16        submission, this is Mr. Morris's attempt to milk an
    17        occasion for publicity and I object.
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    19   MR. MORRIS:  This is a legal submission.  And it is not at all.
    20        The press have to leave the court room-----
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    22   MR. RAMPTON:  I ask your Lordship to make a ruling.
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    24   MR. MORRIS:  You cannot.
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    26   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am not going to make a ruling.  Mr. Morris,
    27        you know perfectly well what the limits of your entitlement
    28        to address me are.
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    30   MR. MORRIS:  It is a point of law, purely.
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    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is not.  I am well aware of the admission,
    33        I do not need you to tell me about it yet again this
    34        morning for some reason.
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    36   MR. MORRIS:  I will not mention the subject matter.  If I can
    37        refer you to page 18, point IB, about statutory lunch
    38        breaks not being received and they were fined and they were
    39        convicted of that offence.  All I am saying is that
    40        Mr. Rampton has painted a picture that if people do not get
         their statutory breaks if does not matter.
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    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Mr. Morris, please sit down.  You are going
    44        back over matters of fact.
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    46   MR. MORRIS:  I am just saying that is the law, that they have to
    47        receive your statutory break, and that they have been
    48        convicted of that.
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    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I forget how many times you have told me that
    51        already.
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    53   MR. MORRIS:  All I am saying is it is backed up by their own
    54        admission, because they have admitted that.
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    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am well aware of that, too.  Please, you
    57        are well aware of what you are entitled to do, what you
    58        already addressed me on, and the moment has now come, Ms.
    59        Steel, for you to say anything further you wish to about
    60        the counterclaim.