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     1        That is a clear indication there that they just do not care
     2        about whether or not they are pumping out lies when they
     3        are trying to discredit their critics.
     4
     5        Moving on to paragraph 5.2: Mr. Rampton has claimed that
     6        the tone of McDonald's response in these press releases and
     7        leaflets was remarkably restrained and, as I said before,
     8        we consider that calling somebody liars at least nine times
     9        in one document cannot be termed restrained by any stretch
    10        of the imagination, and as to not naming us, if they had
    11        named us it would not have added anything to their aims
    12        since their purpose was to discredit us in relation to this
    13        trial and the issues in this trial, and also it would have
    14        been contrary to their aims to name us since it would have
    15        made it easier for people to contact us and seek our point
    16        of view or show support.
    17
    18        Paragraph 5.3, obviously, repeats the comments set out at
    19        5.1 above, but also add that McDonald's were well aware
    20        that we were, and are, defending this case because we
    21        believe in the truth of the criticisms.  Therefore, there
    22        was absolutely no justification for calling us liars,
    23        particularly not when Paul Preston knows that the meaning
    24        of the word is telling a deliberate falsehood.
    25
    26        In relation to the points set out on that page, we consider
    27        that we have dealt with the point about whether or not we
    28        were lying, and clearly we were not, we believed in what
    29        the fact sheet says, and we believed in what we have been
    30        saying in this court case.  The fact is that the onus is on
    31        the Plaintiffs to establish that we lied.  They have not
    32        brought any evidence to that effect.  In fact, they did not
    33        even bother to question me in the witness box about whether
    34        I believed in the fact sheet except for the rainforest
    35        section of it, which, bearing in mind that they consider
    36        the nutrition section to be the most defamatory, you might
    37        have thought that they would have bothered to ask me
    38        whether or not I believed in that.  They did not bother
    39        because they knew we do believe in the truth of the
    40        criticisms made in the fact sheet and, therefore, we cannot
    41        be lying.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  I think this is a case, we have argued that failure
    44        to challenge-----
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well...
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  This is a particularly strong example.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have the point in relation to this.
    51
    52   MR. MORRIS:  Because they did not have any other witnesses or
    53        evidence which would have dealt with that point.  They had
    54        to challenge Ms. Steel in the witness box, and they did not
    55        do it.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Whether they had to or not, the question of
    58        challenges is not just a question of strict procedure that
    59        you should or should not.  One also has to look at what
    60        evidence there is at the end of the day, and it may be a

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