From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 01 17:09:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1191 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2000 17:12:17 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 17:12:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3822-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2000 17:12:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 26773 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2000 17:12:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Apr 2000 17:12:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.195.171) by mta2 with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 17:12:13 -0000 Received: from modem-80.astelin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.81.80] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12bRRU-0003kO-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:12:12 +0100 To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:09:12 +0100 X-eGroups-From: Sandy Brownlee From: Sandy Brownlee Reply-To: just-amiga@onelist.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Ray On 30-Mar-00, you wrote: > > Pls remove me from your distribution list. Try going to http://www.onelist.com where you can log in, and then unsubscribe. Or maybe sending a mail to just-amiga-unsubscribe@onelist.com might work? Regards, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered! Email: sandy_brownlee@bigfoot.com Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sent using YAM 2.0 ---------------------------------- When people run around and around in circles we say they are crazy. When planets do it we say they are orbiting. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/936/2/_/490399/_/954609134/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Apr 01 18:28:42 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11544 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2000 20:38:02 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 20:38:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3823-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2000 20:38:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 17512 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2000 20:37:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Apr 2000 20:37:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 20:37:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 11519 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2000 20:37:56 -0000 Received: from nas02-198.82.thefree.net (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.198.82) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 20:37:56 -0000 To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:28:42 +0000 X-eGroups-From: Chris Seward From: Chris Seward Reply-To: just-amiga@onelist.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] unsubscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ray, On 30-Mar-00, you wrote: > > Pls remove me from your distribution list. > Now try sending an email to: just-amiga-unsubscribe@onelist.com :).. reading the instructions always keep you one step ahead of the rest ;) afterall, thats what they where invented for. Regards -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! 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Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/936/2/_/490399/_/954621479/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Apr 01 18:33:30 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11548 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2000 20:38:02 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 20:38:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3824-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 Apr 2000 20:38:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 8224 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2000 20:38:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 Apr 2000 20:38:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 20:37:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 11527 invoked by uid 504); 1 Apr 2000 20:37:57 -0000 Received: from nas02-198.82.thefree.net (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.198.82) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 20:37:57 -0000 To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@onelist.com; contact just-amiga-owner@onelist.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@onelist.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2000 18:33:30 +0000 X-eGroups-From: Chris Seward From: Chris Seward Reply-To: just-amiga@onelist.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Digest Number 503 (AIO) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Tony, On 27-Mar-00, you wrote: > The earlier one was downloaded from Aminet, and when I got it direct > from AIO it worked OK. Comparing the faulty one from ANet and the > one from AIO index and the faulty file, I could find no diference in > size or links or layout. I decided the archive got corrupted tho > it was exactly the same size and unpacked with no error. As Neil said its to do with the buffer, what will display on one persons computer will not display on anothers. If they have lower specs then its less likely to work. The archives via email, aminet and the website are all exactly the same so downloading one and then another won't really make any difference :) One way to overcome it is open it on your workbench screen, ie, choose "no" on the requester when loading. If this still doesn't work then lower your workbench colours and choose "no" when loading. This is only a problem on big articles, unfortunately. (Not that we want the problem on all articles ;)... you know what i mean :P ) Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LOW RATE, NO WAIT! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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The main reason being, i've just plugged a Cybervision64/3d (mark 2) into the Z4 bus, and i'm having a nightmare getting it to work properly. I dont know whether its a hard or software problem. I wasnt given a manual with the z4, i'll have to wait till eyetech decide to get one to me... When i draw a dragbox on the workbench screen (for selecting icons), it leaves trails all over the place, which wont go away unless i move a window on top of them and move it away again. On top of that i'm getting LOTS of random pixel trash all over the screen, mainly when i swap between screens, or move windows around. It doesnt matter which mode i use, and i've tried other slots on the busboard, disabling all hacks etc etc. Anyone ever heard of anything like this before? The whole thing seems to be going really slow too, when i resize windows, it takes about 4 seconds to redraw the background (or windows behind the current one), and thats only on 800x600x8 :( Is it supposed to be this slow? Enabling the 'fast z2 mode' doesnt seem to do anything at all.. Sorry for so many questions in the one email.. this is making me just a tad angry, because i've spent so much on it, and i'd like a second opinion before i spend another fortune sending it all back.. Cheers David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LOW RATE, NO WAIT! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all I don't think I've seen anything about this but the excellent MP3 sharing PC program is now available on the Amiga under the name of Amster. It is available to download at no charge from http://www.amigart.com/amster The main Napster site is @ http://www.napster.com if you want to check it out. Have Fun !! Wayne -- From : Wayne Pyrah - [ H y p e r B o y ] - Lincoln, Lincolnshire, England, UK -- > Direct Fax : +44 870 740 2523 - Voicemail Service : +44 70 10 704 520 < | Web Site : http://www.pyrah.co.uk - Email : Wayne@Pyrah.co.uk | > One2One Mobile Email Service : wayne@one2one.net - max 1000 letters < -- Join my website announcement list - http://www.pyrah.co.uk.listbot.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 01-Apr-00 23:48:33, Wayne Pyrah - H y p e r B o y - said about [just-amiga] Napster on Amiga !!! : > Hi all > I don't think I've seen anything about this but the excellent MP3 sharing PC > program is now available on the Amiga under the name of Amster. > It is available to download at no charge from http://www.amigart.com/amster > The main Napster site is @ http://www.napster.com if you want to check it > out. There is also ANapster which is good as well,if not with all the options that Amster has -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 To err is human. To purr feline. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@onelist.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Digest Number 503 (AIO) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris... On 02-Apr-00, you wrote: > The archives via email, aminet and the website are all > exactly the same so downloading one and then another > won't really make any difference :) It did. They were 2 different sizes. > One way to overcome it is open it on your workbench > screen, ie, choose "no" on the requester when loading. Yes, this worked. I'm curious how much chip ram it does need if run with the "YES" button, and why some documents much larger show OK. Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* The first novel to be written on a typewriter was `Tom Sawyer' -- Mark Twain *Tony P. 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Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/936/2/_/490399/_/954697740/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Mon Apr 03 18:50:42 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 17922 invoked by uid 504); 4 Apr 2000 18:01:26 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 4 Apr 2000 18:01:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3831-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 04 Apr 2000 18:01:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 32224 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2000 18:01:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 4 Apr 2000 18:01:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail6.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.212) by mta2 with SMTP; 4 Apr 2000 18:01:10 -0000 Received: from modem-10.gallium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.30.10] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12cXdT-0003Bv-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 19:01:08 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.gallium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Tue, 4 Apr 0 18:59:18 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.iron.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 3 Apr 0 19:25:16 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <38E9447B.E2FD@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 18:50:42 GMT X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Cybervision 64/3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday April 01 2000, Zimzum said to All: Z> When i draw a dragbox on the workbench screen (for selecting icons), it Z> leaves trails all over the place, which wont go away unless i move Z> a window on top of them and move it away again. On top of that i'm What software? Ensure you have the latest drivers and know all the issues with them. If you're using CybergraphX, it might be worth trying out Picasso96. P96 is certainly better than CGX3, maybe not 4 though. Z> The whole thing seems to be going really slow too, when i resize Z> windows, it takes about 4 seconds to redraw the background (or windows Z> behind the current one), and thats only on 800x600x8 :( Is it supposed Z> to be this slow? It shouldn't be like that at all. It should be next to instant. First, check your software, and if that fails get the hardware checked out. Z> Enabling the 'fast z2 mode' doesnt seem to do anything Z> at all.. That'll only affect games really. General use doesn't move lots of data to the card.. -- Neil Williams, Cymru. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 21:51:12 +0000 X-eGroups-From: Chris Seward From: Chris Seward Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] High Octane shareware game? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, Does anyone have an old shareware/P.D. game called High Octane by a man named Paul Overy. It was an overhead racing game. I bought it from 17 Bit but don't have the disks anymore and am unsure if it was uploaded to Aminet or even anywhere on the internet because it was back in the good old days of buying hundreds of PD disks via post :) If anyone has this game on disk or knows where it can be downloaded from it'd be most thankful! 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2000 22:30:54 +0000 X-eGroups-From: Chris Seward From: Chris Seward Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Amiga News Network? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Everytime i've tried Amiga News Network it seems not to be found, has the website moved domain? The address I have for it is, http://www.ann.nu Is this correct? Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 0.0% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] MJSoft - anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings All... Does anyone know the latest email address for "MJSoft" the authors of a neat little print formating util (Columns v2.6) by Martin Mares and Tomas Zikmund - or even an up email address for either of the above gents? I sent an email to this address listed in the dox... mjsoft@k332.feld.cvut.cz but it was returned as "unable to find this email address". I realise they may have given up supporting the Amiga, but I can't help thinking I've seen the name "MJSoft" on stuff recently. I hope someone can help. Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but the result's the same -- Mike Dennison *Tony P. 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I dont know whether its a hard or software problem. I >wasnt given a manual with the z4, i'll have to wait till eyetech >decide to get one to me... Hello David. I've got a Z4 with a very thin manual that doesn't say much. Jumpers: J0 Reset (Connection for reset switch) J1 Z2-adjust Open: Regular timing on all Z2 slots. Closed: Special timing on slot 5 J2 AutoCfg M Open: Regular mode for Autoconfig detection counter. Closed: Special mode (not needed for Apollo, Blizzard) J3 AutoCfg 0 Closed for all Apollo and old Blizz 1230 J4 AutoCfg 1 Open (J2-J4 is only (?) for different accelerator boards. All open for newer ones.) J5 Open: Regular timing on all Z2 slots. Closed: Double speed on lot 1 & 2. WARNING: It only works with specially modified cards. Slots and graphics cards: "Z1 is aligned with the video slots (V1 & V2) for use with graphics cards." and "VE connection for optional Video Slot Enabler" Well, that's about all there is... 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Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2122/2/_/490399/_/954945591/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Fri Apr 07 22:59:52 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13463 invoked by uid 504); 7 Apr 2000 23:00:04 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 7 Apr 2000 23:00:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3837-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 07 Apr 2000 23:00:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 5732 invoked from network); 7 Apr 2000 23:00:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 7 Apr 2000 23:00:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO serv1.is1.u-net.net) (195.102.240.129) by mta2 with SMTP; 7 Apr 2000 23:00:01 -0000 Received: from [195.102.200.81] (helo=nysa.u-net.com) by serv1.is1.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 12dhjL-0004g1-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2000 00:00:00 +0100 To: just-amiga@onelist.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Drowzee X-Zero-Hour: in 268 days, 0 hours, 0 minutes MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 07 Apr 2000 23:59:52 +0100 X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga News Network? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Chris Seward wrote: > The address I have for it is, > > http://www.ann.nu > > Is this correct? Nope. It's http://www.ann.lu/ (kinda like Luann, but backwards). -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LOW RATE, NO WAIT! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08-Apr-00, Stephen Williams wrote: > Nope. It's http://www.ann.lu/ > (kinda like Luann, but backwards). another question (and a bit off-topic). does somehere maybe know a provider where I can get a .an domain? you can get .com anywhere, but .an ...? Regards, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. 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At least now i know its nothing to do with the setup. Now i can start annoying someone to send me a replacement card >:) Cheers David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds!=20=20 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2646/2/_/490399/_/955160144/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From zerosignal@cqm.co.uk Sat Apr 08 03:25:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 21065 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2000 02:28:36 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 02:28:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3840-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2000 02:28:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 26787 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 02:28:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2000 02:28:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 02:28:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 22878 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 02:28:31 -0000 Received: from herald.colloquium.co.uk (192.153.153.244) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 02:28:31 -0000 Received: from colloquium.co.uk (sh0ck@wall-20.colloquium.co.uk [195.206.195.21]) by herald.colloquium.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA28886 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 02:30:44 GMT To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <38E9447B.E2FD@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Ministry of funny walks MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 03:25:35 +0000 X-eGroups-From: ZimZum From: ZimZum Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Cybervision 64/3d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi -> If you're using CybergraphX, it might be worth trying out -> Picasso96. P96 is certainly better than CGX3, maybe not 4 -> though. I've tried CGX3, CGX4, and P96, all of them suffer the same problems unfortunatley. I know its not my workbench either, i've tried a self contained floppy with only the neccesary libs and Cgfx4 installed, same probs :( -> It shouldn't be like that at all. It should be next to instant. -> First, check your software, and if that fails get the hardware -> checked out. The response from Eyetech has been 'huh?'. I've sent them a letter and phoned them, hopefully i'll get a reply soon, but i somehow doubt any of the HW is faulty. An incompatibility maybe.. main reason for this posting, to see if anyone else has had the same problem. The general performance seems to be reasonable, but when filling large areas of detail on the screen, it seems to slow down to a crawl. Closing a window takes ages, as it has to redraw the workbench pattern. Flicking windows back and forwards is almost as slow, it even feels slower than AGA in this area. Could this be software? ->> Enabling the 'fast z2 mode' doesnt seem to do anything ->> at all.. -> -> That'll only affect games really. General use doesn't move lots -> of data to the card.. Doom and heretic are actually slower on the gfx card than they were under AGA, which is leaving me really disappointed. Quake is terrible, i feel like i'm running it under 030/50 compared to my 060/50, and thats with doublebuffering turned off. If anyone else is using a cv643d in a z2 slot, it would be helpful to hear what sort of results you get, since i dont know if this is what I should be expecting or not. Later David ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LOW RATE, NO WAIT! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Learn more at: http://click.egroups.com/1/937/2/_/490399/_/955160912/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From Roy_Bartsch@gmx.de Sat Apr 08 07:40:42 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3683 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2000 11:13:22 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 11:13:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3847-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2000 11:13:15 -0000 Received: (qmail 12726 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 11:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2000 11:13:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 11:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 347 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 11:13:14 -0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net (HELO pmail1.gmx.net) (194.221.183.71) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 11:13:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 20762 invoked by uid 0); 8 Apr 2000 11:13:11 -0000 Received: from pec-55-102.tnt2.b2.uunet.de (HELO gmx.net) (149.225.55.102) by mail.gmx.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 11:13:11 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: only an AMIGA-freak MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 09:40:42 +0200 X-eGroups-From: Roy Bartsch From: Roy Bartsch Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Samstag, the 08-Apr-00 Alan Paynter wrote at 09:29:54 about [just-amiga] High Octane disk 2 : AP-> Hi Chris AP-> AP-> On 03-Apr-00, Chris Seward wrote: AP->> Hi, AP->> AP->> Does anyone have an old shareware/P.D. game called AP->> High Octane by a man named Paul Overy. AP-> disk 2 attached AP-> AP-> Regards (aka Harlech) AP-> Alan Paynter ICQ 23921198 Hi Alan, could you please send such big files directly (private) to the one who want it (and not to the list). It`s not funny to download hundrets of kbyte that are not wanted :-( BTW: You can download the final version 2.0 of YAM from the authors page ;-) -- ___ LIVE LONG, AND PROSPER ___....-----'---`-----....___ ========================================= ___`---..._______...---'___ Roy Bartsch (___) _|_|_|_ (___) Roy_Bartsch@gmx.de \\____.-'_.---._`-.____// PGP 5 key available on request ~~~~`.__`---'__.'~~~~ ~~~~~ -- It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but the result's the same. -- Mike Dennison ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/975/2/_/490399/_/955192394/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Sat Apr 08 07:52:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31441 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2000 09:16:03 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 09:16:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3843-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2000 09:15:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 32194 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 09:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2000 09:15:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 09:15:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 30470 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 09:15:55 -0000 Received: from maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (203.58.52.2) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 09:15:55 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au (maroochydore-as-dial-33.qld.hotkey.net.au [203.58.52.36]) by maroochydore-psvr.qld.hotkey.net.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id TAA24485 for ; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 19:15:49 +1000 (EST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 17:52:12 +1000 X-eGroups-From: Colin Wenzel From: Colin Wenzel Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 08-Apr-00, Alan Paynter wrote: > Hi Chris > > On 03-Apr-00, Chris Seward wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Does anyone have an old shareware/P.D. game called >> High Octane by a man named Paul Overy. > disk 2 attached > > Regards (aka Harlech) > Alan Paynter ICQ 23921198 > Wow, are you gona get it now...... !!! ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ LOW RATE, NO WAIT! Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. Learn more at: http://click.egroups.com/1/937/2/_/490399/_/955185357/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From msayers@spidernet.com.cy Sat Apr 08 07:54:43 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28342 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2000 07:54:56 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (208.50.144.79) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 07:54:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3842-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2000 07:54:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 24041 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 07:54:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2000 07:54:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 07:54:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 12604 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 07:54:48 -0000 Received: from picasso.spidernet.net (HELO mail0.spidernet.net) (194.154.128.2) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 07:54:48 -0000 Received: from spidernet.com.cy (lim-c53s03-l032.spidernet.net [194.154.158.160] with SMTP) by mail0.spidernet.net (ElectricMail-MESSAGE-2.0-GAMMA-SSM1.1-ANTISPAM) id KAA08342; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 10:54:52 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:54:43 +0300 X-eGroups-From: Mark Sayers From: Mark Sayers Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 (WHAT!) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Alan On 08-Apr-00, you wrote: > disk 2 attached > Regards (aka Harlech) > Alan Paynter ICQ 23921198 Hopefully this was a genuine mistake either way, your going to get a few peoples backs up if you upload large binaries to any m/l. I'd rather not receive any in future please. Regards Mark Sayers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/975/2/_/490399/_/955180489/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From neil.ives@btinternet.com Sat Apr 08 10:10:26 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3064 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2000 10:59:45 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:59:45 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3846-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2000 10:59:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 18737 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 10:59:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2000 10:59:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:59:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 26875 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 10:59:34 -0000 Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com (194.73.73.83) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:59:34 -0000 Received: from host213-1-76-230.btinternet.com ([213.1.76.230] helo=btinternet.com) by neodymium.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12dsxA-0006mH-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 8 Apr 2000 11:59:00 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:10:26 +0000 X-eGroups-From: Neil Ives From: Neil Ives Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alan On 08-Apr-00, you wrote (and attached): > an old shareware/P.D. game called >> High Octane by a man named Paul Overy. > disk 2 attached > > Regards (aka Harlech) > Alan Paynter ICQ 23921198 Well thanks for that, I just need disk 1 now! :) Regards -- Neil Ives Things I'd Do If I Ever Became An Evil Overlord 35. I will not grow a goatee. In the old days they made you look diabolic. Now they just make you look like a disaffected member of Generation X. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2646/2/_/490399/_/955191577/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mike.m@free4all.co.uk Sat Apr 08 10:27:45 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29453 invoked by uid 504); 9 Apr 2000 15:19:46 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (208.50.144.78) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 9 Apr 2000 15:19:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3854-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 09 Apr 2000 15:19:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 5772 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2000 15:19:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 9 Apr 2000 15:19:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 9 Apr 2000 15:19:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 20038 invoked from network); 9 Apr 2000 15:19:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO smtp.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 9 Apr 2000 15:19:24 -0000 Received: from free4all.co.uk ([194.131.244.113]) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk ; Sun, 09 Apr 2000 16:36:52 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 11:27:45 +0100 X-eGroups-From: mike meredith From: mike meredith Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Alan On 08-Apr-00, Alan Paynter wrote: > disk 2 attached Thanks for adding another 4 minutes onto my phone bill. -- Cheers Mike Amiga 500/CD32/1200/3000 since '87 InterNet mike.m@free4all.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. 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Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/975/2/_/490399/_/955293565/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 08 10:29:57 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2553 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2000 10:44:15 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (208.50.144.78) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:44:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3845-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2000 10:44:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 24976 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 10:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2000 10:44:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail3.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.19) by mta2 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:44:04 -0000 Received: from modem-12.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.31.12] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12dsig-0005Pj-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2000 11:44:02 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 8 Apr 0 11:43:08 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 8 Apr 0 10:37:21 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <38EF6040.E689@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@onelist.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:29:57 GMT X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Amiga News Network? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday April 08 2000, Stefan Schulz said to Stephen Williams: SS> another question (and a bit off-topic). does somehere maybe know a SS> provider where I can get a .an domain? SS> you can get .com anywhere, but .an ...? Move to Netherlands Antilles. -- Neil Williams, Cymru. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 1. Fill in the brief application 2. Receive approval decision within 30 seconds 3. Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/975/2/_/490399/_/955190646/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 08 10:30:43 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2539 invoked by uid 504); 8 Apr 2000 10:44:04 -0000 Received: from mo.egroups.com (208.50.144.78) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:44:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3844-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mo.egroups.com with NNFMP; 08 Apr 2000 10:43:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 13232 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 10:43:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 8 Apr 2000 10:43:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:43:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 22817 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2000 10:43:56 -0000 Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.175) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 8 Apr 2000 10:43:56 -0000 Received: from modem-12.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.31.12] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12dsiY-00080r-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 08 Apr 2000 11:43:55 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 8 Apr 0 11:43:02 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 8 Apr 0 10:37:21 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <38EF6041.E68A@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 08 Apr 2000 10:30:43 GMT X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] High Octane disk 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Saturday April 08 2000, Alan Paynter said to Chris Seward: >> Does anyone have an old shareware/P.D. game called >> High Octane by a man named Paul Overy. AP> disk 2 attached It's times like this I wish I had ADSL. -- Neil Williams, Cymru. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GET A NEXTCARD VISA, in 30 seconds! Get rates as low as 2.9% Intro or 9.9% Fixed APR and no hidden fees. 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Box 728"; city="Nambour, 4560"; country="Queensland, Australia"; phone="++61 413 584197"; dob=1011965 Organization: Doms' Computer Systems (DCS) MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2000 07:59:25 +1000 X-eGroups-From: Dominique Harelle From: Dominique Harelle Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: mike meredith Date: 08-Apr-00 Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 Hello mike, > Hello Alan > On 08-Apr-00, Alan Paynter wrote: >> disk 2 attached > Thanks for adding another 4 minutes onto my phone bill. 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have:- http://www.ann.lu/ Looks like you are one lettter out. It is OK - loading as I type Chris Seward wrote: > > Hi All, > > Everytime i've tried Amiga News Network it seems not > to be found, has the website moved domain? > > The address I have for it is, > > http://www.ann.nu > > Is this correct? > > Toodle Pip! > -- > Chris Seward > *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 > *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 > Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > PERFORM CPR ON YOUR APR! > Get a NextCard Visa, in 30 seconds! 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Apply NOW! http://click.egroups.com/1/2122/2/_/490399/_/955357963/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 11 10:56:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8982 invoked by uid 504); 11 Apr 2000 11:00:44 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 11 Apr 2000 11:00:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3858-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 11 Apr 2000 11:00:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 3152 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2000 11:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 11 Apr 2000 11:00:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 11 Apr 2000 11:00:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23859 invoked from network); 11 Apr 2000 11:00:07 -0000 Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.19) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 11 Apr 2000 11:00:07 -0000 Received: from modem-73.thulium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.54.73] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12eyOr-0002c0-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Tue, 11 Apr 2000 12:00:05 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2000 11:56:39 +0100 X-eGroups-From: Sandy Brownlee From: Sandy Brownlee Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: High Octane disk 2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Dominique On 09-Apr-00, you wrote: >>> disk 2 attached > >> Thanks for adding another 4 minutes onto my phone bill. > > With all this talk about the size of the attachment, why don't people > (especially ones using YAM) set the size limit for e-mail so that it will > display large e-mails with the option of downloading or deleting directly > on the server without downloading. I actually had this option, but I rather stupidly accepted the download before I knew what I was doing. I wish it was possible to read the email part without downloading the attachment. Still, that's a limitation of email. Later, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered! Email: sandy_brownlee@bigfoot.com Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sent using YAM 2.0 ---------------------------------- Quiz Tag: How can you count to more than 30 on the fingers on one hand? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online reservations. Enjoy a compact car nationwide for only $29 a day! Click here for more details. http://click.egroups.com/1/3011/2/_/490399/_/955450809/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From brotheramiga@takas.lt Mon Apr 17 13:35:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 2352 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 20:13:36 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 20:13:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3868-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 20:12:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 3873 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 20:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 20:12:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 20:12:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22256 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 20:12:00 -0000 Received: from srvr3.telecom.lt (HELO mail.takas.lt) (212.59.0.2) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 20:12:00 -0000 Received: from takas.lt (guest@dialup50.vln.takas.lt [212.59.14.50]) by mail.takas.lt (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id WAA24771 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 22:11:55 +0200 (GMT+0200) To: konferencija just AMMY Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; street="Taikos 49-1"; city="Vilnius"; country="Lithuania"; phone="8-22-476957"; dob=5111982 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 15:35:54 +0200 X-eGroups-From: Vytautas From: Vytautas Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] CD player Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, ppl I am on a holly war to find a CD player ;) The ones I've downloaded aren't 'perfect' :) So I want to ask other ppls oppinion :) The perfect player should be: a) non-MUI; b) support song names, group names, (optional) www.cddb.com support :) c) must have time slider d) should show time, remaining, etc ... a) is optional too (I've nothing against MUI), but gui's design should be 'acceptable' :) and not bloated ;) So can any1 help me ? 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Pay by credit card and receive an additional 4 weeks at this low introductory rate. http://click.egroups.com/1/3102/2/_/490399/_/956002324/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Mon Apr 17 17:46:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24398 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 17:47:03 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 17:47:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3859-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 17:45:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 17804 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 17:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 17:45:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 17:45:15 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp4.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.197]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA04131 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:15:01 +0930 To: JAM Mail List Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:16:39 +0930 X-eGroups-From: "Tony P. Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] WD hard drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Amigans... A WD 1.6Mb Hard Drive (free - whoopee!) --------------------------------------- I've been given a 3.5" Western Digital Caviar 31600 1.6Mb AT Compatible Intelligent Drive from a PC. I wish to eventually fit this and need to know what is the correct formatting to use, Low-level formatting as per the Amiga Hard Drive manual with HDToolBox - or should I use the standard Workbench format tool and then do the partitioning, etc. with HDToolBox? Every Amiga mag I've read has consistantly warned that IDE drives must NOT be Low-level formatted, yet the manual tells you to do this when fitting a new(er) drive. What is correct? A mate(?) states I have to Low-level format first - then do a normal WorkBench format - then use HDToolbox to setup my partitions, etc. Will this (presently) PC formatted HD be recognised by Workbench, or is this the reason for the Low-level format with HDToolbox before I do my partitioning, etc.? CrossDOS - if I start this first will the PC HD be seen by Workbench, and can I then use the WB format command to AmigaDOS format it? What it all boils to is this... Would my best option be to take my Amiga to an Amiga technician, and get him to back up all my software from my 4 partitions, fit, format and partition the hdrive(s), and copy all my software back to the new setup?? Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* A miracle would definitely be a step in the right direction -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Mon Apr 17 17:51:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24952 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 17:51:52 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 17:51:52 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3860-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 17:50:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 28515 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 17:50:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 17:50:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 17:50:03 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp4.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.197]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA04206 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:19:55 +0930 To: JAM Mail List Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 03:21:24 +0930 X-eGroups-From: "Tony P. Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Drivers etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Amigans... I have some questions for you clever Amigans out there. On storage devices ------------------ I just read an ad for the Imation Super Disk Drive for the PC. 120Mb 2x parallel port drive - reads 720k, 1.44Mb and 120Mb disks. This, and many other storage devices are constantly advertised in the various PC magazines. With the amazingly low prices of of these devices, I wonder why some enterprising Amiga programmers have not written software/drivers for their use on our machine of choice. Does anyone know if they exist, and if so, where they can be found? A lot of these devices are much cheaper than ZIP/JAZ/ORB drives and would be an ideal solution to those of us out here who can't afford these latest, (and limited) whizbang storage options. I mean to say, nearly $AUS300 for a ZIPdrive, seems a bit pricey, especially when their ads proclaim a ZIP is sold every 5 seconds, (and lots of us don't have a SCSI option). I've D/L'd a software driver for the parallel ZIPdrive, but the docs warn that there are many problems with this solution. On modems --------- I use an ancient Interlink Fastbit Model IIbis 14.4 modem. A friend has a 56k v90 he doesn't need, and he's offered it to me at a price that is a steal, but he said I'll have to find my own Amiga driver for it. OK, I'll bite, what driver? I don't need a driver for my present Interlink. Have things changed since I got my modem? Do I now need a driver to connect a modern modem to the Amiga? If so, does anyone know where to get these drivers from? I don't recall ever seeing such a thing on Aminet. Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability -- Oscar Wilde *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From stefan_schulz@gmx.de Mon Apr 17 18:05:43 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 26304 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 18:11:56 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 18:11:56 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3862-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 18:10:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 616 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 18:10:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 18:10:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 18:10:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 26493 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 18:10:21 -0000 Received: from ns1.ipcore.viaginterkom.de (HELO vi-b2.ipcore.viaginterkom.de) (195.182.96.28) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 18:10:21 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (d-102-161.ipdial.viaginterkom.de [62.180.161.102]) by vi-b2.ipcore.viaginterkom.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA26472 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:05:45 +0200 (MET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:05:43 +0200 X-eGroups-From: Stefan Schulz From: Stefan Schulz Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I ordered a keyboard adapter and bought a nice ergonomic Win95-keyboard for it. I installed the hardware and connected the drive. But even aver using the Win95 keymap I got the Windows keys couldn't be used as Amiga keys! :( you can imagine how bad Amiga handling without Amiga keys is... any ideas? Regards, Stefan -- AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Mon Apr 17 18:59:36 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25662 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 18:02:08 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (208.50.144.76) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 18:02:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3861-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 18:00:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 20992 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 17:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 17:59:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 17:59:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 2191 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 17:59:46 -0000 Received: from mail.enterprise.net (194.72.192.18) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 17:59:46 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax05-017.enterprise.net [212.161.115.17]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA22554 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:59:40 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:59:36 +0000 X-eGroups-From: Andrew Crowe From: Andrew Crowe Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WD hard drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > A WD 1.6Mb Hard Drive (free - whoopee!) > --------------------------------------- > I've been given a 3.5" Western Digital Caviar 31600 1.6Mb AT > Compatible Intelligent Drive from a PC. I wish to eventually fit this > and need to know what is the correct formatting to use, Low-level > formatting as per the Amiga Hard Drive manual with HDToolBox - or > should I use the standard Workbench format tool and then do the > partitioning, etc. with HDToolBox? > > Every Amiga mag I've read has consistantly warned that IDE drives > must NOT be Low-level formatted, yet the manual tells you to do this > when fitting a new(er) drive. What is correct? You shouldn't need to do a low level format, as the drive should already have had it done while it was being manufacturered. > A mate(?) states I have to Low-level format first - then do a normal > WorkBench format - then use HDToolbox to setup my partitions, etc. Well, try just partitioning it and doing a workbench format. If it doesn't work, then low-level format it and try again. > Will this (presently) PC formatted HD be recognised by Workbench, or > is this the reason for the Low-level format with HDToolbox before I > do my partitioning, etc.? > > CrossDOS - if I start this first will the PC HD be seen by Workbench, > and can I then use the WB format command to AmigaDOS format it? There's no such thing as a PC harddrive, it works the same for any computer. The partition on it may not be recognised by Workbench, but you can simply delete the partition with HDTools and create your amiga partitions. > What it all boils to is this... > > Would my best option be to take my Amiga to an Amiga technician, and > get him to back up all my software from my 4 partitions, fit, format > and partition the hdrive(s), and copy all my software back to the new > setup?? You can run 2 harddrives at once if you've the right leads (and keep the case off if you've an A1200. But you may well be better off getting a pro to do it. See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 10/04/00 - Amiga seal of approval added - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform. -- Mark Twain AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Mon Apr 17 19:01:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32300 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 19:38:05 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:38:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3866-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 20:36:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 4998 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:36:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 19:36:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:36:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 14245 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:36:28 -0000 Received: from cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.177) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:36:28 -0000 Received: from modem-85.neodymium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.49.213] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg7.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12hHJq-0001e1-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:36:26 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:01:09 +0100 X-eGroups-From: Sandy Brownlee From: Sandy Brownlee Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Drivers etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Drivers etc.," starring Tony P. Parr... On 17-Apr-00, you wrote: > I just read an ad for the Imation Super Disk Drive for the PC. > > 120Mb 2x parallel port drive - reads 720k, 1.44Mb and 120Mb disks. Sounds like an LS120 clone, but the parallel port bit stops you using it, unless you can find a EPP interface like those you get for clockports. > A friend has a 56k v90 he doesn't need, and he's offered it to me at > a price that is a steal, but he said I'll have to find my own Amiga > driver for it. > > OK, I'll bite, what driver? I don't need a driver for my present > Interlink. Have things changed since I got my modem? Do I now need a > driver to connect a modern modem to the Amiga? If so, does anyone > know where to get these drivers from? I don't recall ever seeing such > a thing on Aminet. If it's a serial modem, it'll almost certainly work. You just need to know the right commnds to Miami or whatever to operate it. (Should be in the manual, if Miami can't work them out itself) Later, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered! Email: sandy_brownlee@bigfoot.com Website: http://www.brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sent using YAM 2.0 ---------------------------------- For the uninformed, this is a tagline. AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From jmackoy@tranquility.net Mon Apr 17 19:05:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30197 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 19:07:07 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:07:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3865-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 19:05:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31303 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 19:05:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:05:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3235 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:05:25 -0000 Received: from tranq1.tranquility.net (206.156.230.1) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:05:25 -0000 Received: from tranquility.net (ppp-port3-39.tranquility.net [206.152.119.135]) by tranq1.tranquility.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA03154 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:05:23 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <38FB6073.A282DE3C@tranquility.net> X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en]C-compaq (Win98; I) To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 14:05:24 -0500 X-eGroups-From: Jim Mackoy From: Jim Mackoy Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Drivers etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I believe the Catweasel supports the LS120, it seems to support about everything else, too. Jim Tony P. Parr wrote: > Greetings Amigans... > > I have some questions for you clever Amigans out there. > > On storage devices > ------------------ > I just read an ad for the Imation Super Disk Drive for the PC. > > 120Mb 2x parallel port drive - reads 720k, 1.44Mb and 120Mb disks. > > This, and many other storage devices are constantly advertised in the > various PC magazines. > > With the amazingly low prices of of these devices, I wonder why some > enterprising Amiga programmers have not written software/drivers for > their use on our machine of choice. > > Does anyone know if they exist, and if so, where they can be found? > > A lot of these devices are much cheaper than ZIP/JAZ/ORB drives and > would be an ideal solution to those of us out here who can't afford > these latest, (and limited) whizbang storage options. I mean to say, > nearly $AUS300 for a ZIPdrive, seems a bit pricey, especially when > their ads proclaim a ZIP is sold every 5 seconds, (and lots of us > don't have a SCSI option). > > I've D/L'd a software driver for the parallel ZIPdrive, but the docs > warn that there are many problems with this solution. > > On modems > --------- > I use an ancient Interlink Fastbit Model IIbis 14.4 modem. > > A friend has a 56k v90 he doesn't need, and he's offered it to me at > a price that is a steal, but he said I'll have to find my own Amiga > driver for it. > > OK, I'll bite, what driver? I don't need a driver for my present > Interlink. Have things changed since I got my modem? Do I now need a > driver to connect a modern modem to the Amiga? If so, does anyone > know where to get these drivers from? I don't recall ever seeing such > a thing on Aminet. > > Cop 'U Later... Tiny > > -- > > */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* > > I think that God, in creating man, somewhat overestimated his ability > -- Oscar Wilde > > > *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* > > *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* > > > AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From zerosignal@cqm.co.uk Mon Apr 17 19:12:56 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 26709 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 18:17:44 -0000 Received: from hl.egroups.com (208.50.144.86) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 18:17:44 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3863-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 18:16:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 29289 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 18:16:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 18:16:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 18:16:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 16007 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 18:16:08 -0000 Received: from herald.colloquium.co.uk (192.153.153.244) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 18:16:08 -0000 Received: from colloquium.co.uk (sh0ck@wall-41.colloquium.co.uk [195.206.195.42]) by herald.colloquium.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA24472 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 18:08:26 GMT To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Ministry of funny walks MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:12:56 +0000 X-eGroups-From: ZimZum From: ZimZum Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan -> I ordered a keyboard adapter and bought a nice ergonomic -> Win95-keyboard for it. I installed the hardware and connected -> the drive. But even aver using the Win95 keymap I got the -> Windows keys couldn't be used as Amiga keys! :( -> -> you can imagine how bad Amiga handling without Amiga keys is... On the win95 keyboard/interface I bought, F11 and F12 are used as left and right amiga. Maybe its the same on yours? Its a pain in the ass I know.. Anyone know if theres some way to map F11-F12 to the windoze keys? Later ZimZum AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Mon Apr 17 19:53:51 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29844 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 19:03:14 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:03:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3864-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 19:01:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 3116 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:01:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 19:01:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:01:30 -0000 Received: (qmail 3527 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:01:29 -0000 Received: from smtp1.home.se (HELO home.se) (195.66.45.70) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:01:29 -0000 Received: from home.se (MrMister@cvx-sto-1-267.ppp.netlink.se [212.242.103.171]) by home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA51098 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 21:01:25 +0200 (CEST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="snorslex.amiga.tm"; street="=?iso-8859-1?Q?Durkv=E4gen?= 2"; city="94533 Rosvik"; country="Sweden"; phone="+46-0911-206958"; dob=18011981 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:53:51 +0100 X-eGroups-From: Lorens Johansson From: Lorens Johansson Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Drivers etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Tony > On modems > --------- > I use an ancient Interlink Fastbit Model IIbis 14.4 modem. >=20 > A friend has a 56k v90 he doesn't need, and he's offered it to me at > a price that is a steal, but he said I'll have to find my own Amiga > driver for it. >=20 > OK, I'll bite, what driver? I don't need a driver for my present > Interlink. Have things changed since I got my modem? Do I now need a > driver to connect a modern modem to the Amiga? If so, does anyone > know where to get these drivers from? I don't recall ever seeing such > a thing on Aminet. To be short, NO! /Lorens --=20 Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 WinErr 34d: Computer too cheap. Spend at least =A31,500 and try again. AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 18 00:14:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1109 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 19:56:43 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:56:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3867-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 20:55:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 13968 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:55:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 19:55:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:55:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 8919 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 19:55:09 -0000 Received: from cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.176) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 19:55:09 -0000 Received: from modem-64.strontium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.34.192] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12hHbv-0006Gz-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 20:55:07 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 19:14:12 -0500 X-eGroups-From: Ian C Fyvie From: Ian C Fyvie Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re:ASCIIprostudio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Andrew Loved your ascii Prog :) I use quite a bit ascii clipart in the Disk version of our Amiga mag. Could you just comfirm your address is still 17 Lansdowne Rd Hove East Sussex BN3-1FE As soon as you do the Cheque will be in the post :) Best -- Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-() (o o) The Ferret \o/ Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen. -- Albert Einstein ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online reservations. Enjoy a compact car nationwide for only $29 a day! Click here for more details. http://click.egroups.com/1/3011/2/_/490399/_/956001310/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Tue Apr 18 00:35:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16667 invoked by uid 504); 17 Apr 2000 23:36:41 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (207.138.41.172) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 23:36:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3869-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Apr 2000 23:35:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 9456 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 23:35:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 17 Apr 2000 23:35:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 23:35:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 14855 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 23:35:05 -0000 Received: from mail.enterprise.net (194.72.192.18) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 23:35:05 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax05-055.enterprise.net [212.161.115.55]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id AAA02946 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:35:03 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 00:35:01 +0000 X-eGroups-From: Andrew Crowe From: Andrew Crowe Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re:ASCIIprostudio Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > Hello Andrew > Loved your ascii Prog :) I use quite a bit ascii clipart in the > Disk version of our Amiga mag. Could you just comfirm your address is still Glad you liked it :) remember people, you can download it from http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ and like he says, it's brill! > 17 Lansdowne Rd > Hove > East Sussex > BN3-1FE Yep. > As soon as you do the Cheque will be in the post :) Wow, thanks :) Anyone else want to send some money? ;) Go on, you know you want to. Just think, the more money I get, the quicker I my brillant new games will come out! 'How will money help?' I hear you ask, Well, send some and find out =) PS. Ian, why post onto just-amiga? See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 10/04/00 - Amiga seal of approval added - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Nero's wife, Poppaea, kept 500 milking asses exclusively to keep her bath topped up. --The Miscellanea Digest ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online reservations. Enjoy a compact car nationwide for only $29 a day! Click here for more details. http://click.egroups.com/1/3011/2/_/490399/_/956014506/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Tue Apr 18 14:55:50 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 32658 invoked by uid 504); 18 Apr 2000 14:56:22 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 14:56:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3870-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2000 14:54:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 3686 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 14:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 Apr 2000 14:54:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 14:54:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 25046 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 14:54:35 -0000 Received: from ns.merlin.net.au (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 14:54:35 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp25.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.218]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA12089 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:24:20 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 00:25:50 +0930 X-eGroups-From: "Tony P. Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WD hard drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Andrew... On 18-Apr-00, you wrote: > Well, try just partitioning it and doing a workbench format. If it doesn't work, then > low-level format it and try again. > >> Will this (presently) PC formatted HD be recognised by Workbench, or >> is this the reason for the Low-level format with HDToolbox before I >> do my partitioning, etc.? >> >> CrossDOS - if I start this first will the PC HD be seen by Workbench, >> and can I then use the WB format command to AmigaDOS format it? > > There's no such thing as a PC harddrive, it works the same for any computer. The partition on > it may not be recognised by Workbench, but you can simply delete the partition with HDTools and > create your amiga partitions. Aha, this is what I've been wondering. HDToolbox *will* recognise it even though WB won't? >> What it all boils to is this... >> >> Would my best option be to take my Amiga to an Amiga technician, and >> get him to back up all my software from my 4 partitions, fit, format >> and partition the hdrive(s), and copy all my software back to the new >> setup?? > > You can run 2 harddrives at once if you've the right leads (and keep the case off if you've >an > A1200. But you may well be better off getting a pro to do it. I've got a pretty old file here that explains how to add a 2nd drive. Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* 320+ million WEB pages... why is life so short? -- ToPPer *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ High rates giving you headaches? The 0% APR Introductory Rate from Capital One. 9.9% Fixed thereafter! http://click.egroups.com/1/3010/2/_/490399/_/956069680/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From stefan_schulz@gmx.de Tue Apr 18 16:29:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9015 invoked by uid 504); 18 Apr 2000 16:44:37 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 16:44:37 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3871-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 18 Apr 2000 16:42:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 13179 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 16:42:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 18 Apr 2000 16:42:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 16:42:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 32270 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2000 16:42:43 -0000 Received: from smtp2.nikoma.de (212.122.128.25) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 18 Apr 2000 16:42:43 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (dialin94.pg1.hamburg.nikoma.de [213.54.0.94]) by smtp2.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA23415 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:42:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stefan_schulz@gmx.de) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 18:29:53 +0200 X-eGroups-From: Stefan Schulz From: Stefan Schulz Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 17-Apr-00, ZimZum wrote: > But even aver using the Win95 keymap I got the > Windows keys couldn't be used as Amiga keys! :( > On the win95 keyboard/interface I bought, F11 and F12 are used as > left and right amiga. Maybe its the same on yours? Its a pain in > the ass I know.. f*ck! it's the same with my interface!! :-((( > Anyone know if theres some way to map F11-F12 > to the windoze keys? I'd like to know also... Regards, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your money connected @ OnMoney.com - the first Web site that lets you see and manage all of your finances all in one place. http://click.egroups.com/1/3012/2/_/490399/_/956076174/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Tue Apr 18 16:50:33 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16794 invoked by uid 504); 19 Apr 2000 13:21:28 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 13:21:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3872-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2000 13:19:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 24385 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 13:19:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Apr 2000 13:19:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 13:19:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 28180 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 13:19:37 -0000 Received: from mail02.iprimus.com.au (203.134.65.91) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 13:19:37 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au ([203.134.101.13]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:56:06 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 02:50:33 +1000 X-eGroups-From: Colin Wenzel From: Colin Wenzel Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 19-Apr-00, Stefan Schulz wrote: > On 17-Apr-00, ZimZum wrote: >> But even aver using the Win95 keymap I got the >> Windows keys couldn't be used as Amiga keys! :( > >> On the win95 keyboard/interface I bought, F11 and F12 are used as >> left and right amiga. Maybe its the same on yours? Its a pain in >> the ass I know.. > > f*ck! it's the same with my interface!! :-((( > >> Anyone know if theres some way to map F11-F12 >> to the windoze keys? > > I'd like to know also... On my $20 Win95 keyboard, there are no F11 & F12 keys, only the AT keyboards had those as far as I know. The Windows Keys ARE mapped as L&R-Amiga on mine. (My interface uses a little PIC chip to convert the keycodes) If I plug in an AT keyboard, the amiga keys turn up on F11 & F12. Sounds like you have some sort of "mongrel" version. Try a W95 Keyboard with only 10 F keys.... ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online reservations. 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Click here for more details. http://click.egroups.com/1/3011/2/_/490399/_/956150378/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 18 21:09:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3094 invoked by uid 504); 19 Apr 2000 17:05:01 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:05:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3873-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2000 17:03:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 10840 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 17:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Apr 2000 17:02:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:02:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 4406 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 17:02:54 -0000 Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.171) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:02:54 -0000 Received: from modem-44.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.172] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12hxsJ-00012A-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:02:52 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 19 Apr 0 18:01:28 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.arnor.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 19 Apr 0 04:41:40 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <38FD8D63.F100@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:09:11 GMT X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WD hard drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday April 18 2000, Tony P. Parr said to All: TPP> --------------------------------------- I've been given a 3.5" TPP> Western Digital Caviar 31600 1.6Mb AT Compatible Intelligent Drive TPP> from a PC. I wish to eventually fit this and need to know what is TPP> the correct formatting to use, Low-level formatting as per the TPP> Amiga Hard Drive manual with HDToolBox - or should I use the TPP> standard Workbench format tool and then do the partitioning, etc. TPP> with HDToolBox? "Low level format" is sometimes necessary to prepare SCSI disks for partitioning and system formatting. It is /not/ required for IDE, and I don't recommend you try, although all drives since the 120MB era should ignore it and not wreck the drive. Low level formatting is not the same thing as a Workbench/system format - you can't format the drive until it's partitioned. The stages are basically: Fit the drive. Boot the HD Install disk. Start HDToolBox. Create your partitions. Reboot with the HD Install disk (to ensure the new partitions are recognised). Format them by selecting the icon then choosing Format from the menus. TPP> Would my best option be to take my Amiga to an Amiga technician, and TPP> get him to back up all my software from my 4 partitions, fit, format TPP> and partition the hdrive(s), and copy all my software back to the new TPP> setup?? Copying software across from an existing drive can be tricky - you need to get the two drives talking over the IDE bus at the same time if you want to skip the backup stage. Set the new one to slave, and connect both to a 3 plug IDE cable. If you can get it to boot okay, fine - partition the new drive (be careful not to nuke the old one!) and copy the stuff across (use "Copy hd0: newhd0: all CLONE" format - without the clone bit all your file dates and comments will be lost! -- Neil Williams, Cymru. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956163776/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Tue Apr 18 21:18:24 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3099 invoked by uid 504); 19 Apr 2000 17:05:04 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:05:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3874-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2000 17:03:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 11150 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 17:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Apr 2000 17:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:03:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 21451 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 17:03:02 -0000 Received: from cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.171) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:03:02 -0000 Received: from modem-44.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.38.172] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by cmailg1.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12hxsR-00013F-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:03:01 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.palladium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 19 Apr 0 18:01:36 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.arnor.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Wed, 19 Apr 0 04:41:40 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <38FD8D64.F101@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2000 21:18:24 GMT X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Drivers etc. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Tuesday April 18 2000, Tony P. Parr said to All: TPP> On storage devices TPP> ------------------ I just read an ad for the Imation Super Disk Drive TPP> for the PC. TPP> 120Mb 2x parallel port drive - reads 720k, 1.44Mb and 120Mb disks. TPP> This, and many other storage devices are constantly advertised in the TPP> various PC magazines. Are these LS-20 compatible? If so, you can get them in IDE or SCSI flavours which should fit on easily, like a ZIP drive. TPP> On modems TPP> --------- I use an ancient Interlink Fastbit Model IIbis 14.4 modem. TPP> A friend has a 56k v90 he doesn't need, and he's offered it to me at TPP> a price that is a steal, but he said I'll have to find my own Amiga TPP> driver for it. He's a PC user, right? Assuming it's an external modem, you just plug it into your serial port and go (after turning up your serial port speed in Miami or whatever :). 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I installed the hardware and connected the > drive. But even aver using the Win95 keymap I got the Windows keys > couldn't be used as Amiga keys! :( > > you can imagine how bad Amiga handling without Amiga keys is... > > any ideas? If you like, I can send you my keymap, which has worked fine on my Amiga and natural keyboard for a couple of months now. Im presuming that they are pretty much the same as the Microsoft one which i have (it was a present, ok :-) Cheers -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Whatever you want, chances are you'll find it at one of the hundreds of sites in The PointClick Network--like Disney.com, eCost.com, FogDog.com and many more. You get paid as you shop and an additional 10% off any purchase, anytime. http://click.egroups.com/1/2994/2/_/490399/_/956165723/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Wed Apr 19 17:40:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23089 invoked by uid 504); 19 Apr 2000 20:55:40 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 20:55:40 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3880-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2000 20:53:40 -0000 Received: (qmail 19909 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 20:53:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Apr 2000 20:53:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 20:53:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 23220 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 20:53:17 -0000 Received: from smtp2.home.se (195.66.45.71) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 20:53:17 -0000 Received: from home.se (MrMister@cvx-sto-1-159.ppp.netlink.se [212.242.103.63]) by smtp2.home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA05960 for ; Wed, 19 Apr 2000 22:52:44 +0200 (CEST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="snorslex.amiga.tm"; street="=?iso-8859-1?Q?Durkv=E4gen?= 2"; city="94533 Rosvik"; country="Sweden"; phone="+46-0911-206958"; dob=18011981 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2000 18:40:39 +0100 X-eGroups-From: Lorens Johansson From: Lorens Johansson Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Colin... > Try a W95 Keyboard with only 10 F keys.... Does that exist?? In sweden all PC keyboards from, like 8x or somthing, have 12 F keys.. IIRC, never used much PCs :) /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 Windows NT = Windows No Technology ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956177604/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Wed Apr 19 17:50:30 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 7431 invoked by uid 504); 19 Apr 2000 17:52:34 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:52:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3876-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2000 17:50:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 23219 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 17:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Apr 2000 17:50:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 17:50:23 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp7.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.200]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA29514; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:19:15 +0930 To: JAM Mail List , JAM Mail List , Rex Westley , Tim Seifert , Thomas Grant , Phil Dent , Phil Dent , Paul Gordon , Paul Gordon , =?iso-8859-1?Q?J=FCrgen?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=FCller?= , Lorens Johansson , Trevor Daley , "Tony P. Parr" CC: JAM Mail List Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:20:30 +0930 X-eGroups-From: "Tony P. Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Hard Drive Settings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings Helpful Amigans... The query below is a bit long, so anyone can answer privately to save cluttering up the mail lists, unless you think the answers may be of general interest. Some questions on Hard Drive Settings ------------------------------------- I have two internal hard drives fitted to my A1200 - 2 partitions on each. I don't know the brand names of either, and have only a number to differentiate between them. (Please see NOTE 1: below). They were setup by the previous owner with the aid of the technician who fitted them inside the A1200. No probs in the 6 years (approx) I've had the computer, but I'm curious about some of the settings and the Amiga Hard Drive User Guide leaves a lot to be desired. I'm fairly sure the two internal Hard Drives are 2.5" Below are the settings for the 2 hard drives, 2 partitions on each. HD0: is my boot partition. _____________________________________________________________________ Hard drive number 1 - (ST9051A) - 2 partitions Partition HD0: =3D 12Mb =B7 Partition HD3: =3D 27Mb =B7 Total =3D 40Mb appr= ox _____________________________________________________________________ HD0: Device =3D scsi.device Unit =3D 0 BlockSize =3D 512 Surfaces =3D 4 BlocksPerTrack =3D 32 Reserved =3D 2 PreAlloc =3D 0 Interleave =3D 0 LowCyl =3D 2 HighCyl =3D 209 Buffers =3D 60 BufMemType =3D 1 MaxTransfer =3D 0xFFFFFF Mask =3D 0xFFFFFFFE BootPri =3D 0 DosType =3D 0x444F5303 # HD3: Device =3D scsi.device Unit =3D 0 BlockSize =3D 512 Surfaces =3D 4 BlocksPerTrack =3D 32 Reserved =3D 2 PreAlloc =3D 0 Interleave =3D 0 LowCyl =3D 210 HighCyl =3D 653 Buffers =3D 30 BufMemType =3D 1 MaxTransfer =3D 0xFFFFFF Mask =3D 0x7FFFFFFE BootPri =3D -128 DosType =3D 0x444F5301 # _____________________________________________________________________ Hard drive number 2 - (ST9114A) - 2 partitions Partition HD1: =3D 61Mb =B7 Partition HD2: =3D 60Mb =B7 Total =3D 120Mb app= rox _____________________________________________________________________ HD1: Device =3D scsi.device Unit =3D 1 BlockSize =3D 512 Surfaces =3D 15 BlocksPerTrack =3D 17 Reserved =3D 2 PreAlloc =3D 0 Interleave =3D 0 LowCyl =3D 2 HighCyl =3D 496 Buffers =3D 30 BufMemType =3D 0 MaxTransfer =3D 0xFFFFFF Mask =3D 0x7FFFFFFE BootPri =3D 4 DosType =3D 0x444F5301 # HD2: Device =3D scsi.device Unit =3D 1 BlockSize =3D 512 Surfaces =3D 15 BlocksPerTrack =3D 17 Reserved =3D 2 PreAlloc =3D 0 Interleave =3D 0 LowCyl =3D 497 HighCyl =3D 979 Buffers =3D 30 BufMemType =3D 0 MaxTransfer =3D 0xFFFFFF Mask =3D 0x7FFFFFFE BootPri =3D 0 DosType =3D 0x444F5301 # ____________________________________________________________________ The settings I'm curious about are... ------------------------------------- Partitions HD0: and HD3: Surfaces =3D 4 ON HARD DISK ONE BlocksPerTrack =3D 32 BufMemType =3D 1 Partitions HD1: and HD2: Surfaces =3D 15 ON HARD DISK TWO BlocksPerTrack =3D 17 BufMemType =3D 0 Why the different figures, and what do these figures actually mean? Buffers settings... ------------------- SysINFO (and similar utils) show Buffers on all partitions set at 30, but HDToolbox insists HD0: is set at 60 - why do the various utils report different settings? What is the ideal Buffers setting, and can these settings be changed, without resorting to re-formatting, etc. The Mask settings are... ------------------------ Partition HD0: Mask =3D 0xFFFFFFFE ON HARD DISK ONE Partition HD3: Mask =3D 0x7FFFFFFE ON HARD DISK ONE Partition HD1: Mask =3D 0x7FFFFFFE ON HARD DISK TWO Partition HD2: Mask =3D 0x7FFFFFFE ON HARD DISK TWO Why 0xFFFFFFFE on the HD0: partition on Hard Disk one, and why isn't the most used one, Mask =3D 0x7FFFFFFE the same for all partitions? Does this Mask setting have any effect on the speed of operations? SysINFO reports the speed as... (approximately) 354k bps on partitions HD0: and HD3: on Hard Disk ONE, and a sloooww... 193k bps on partitions HD1: and HD2: on Hard Disk TWO. I have Disk Expander on partitions HD1: and HD2: on Hard Disk two - would this cause the vast difference between the speeds of the two drives? DE is a Stacker like program, (in case anyone asks) and has often saved my bacon, (automatic Hard Drive validation, etc.) I understand that SysINFO is known to give erroneous information, but lacking any other utility of this type, it will have to do. The DosType settings... ----------------------- The DosType =3D 0x444F5303 on HD0: in HD one is for FFS international. Why would the other 3 partitions be set at 0x444F5301? (default FFS) NOTE 1: Last, but not least, the ID numbers: ST9051A and ST9114A ----------------------------------------------------------------- I presume these will tell someone in the know what brand they are, as I have no idea - can anyone elucidate me? Finally, which of ALL THE ABOVE settings can I SAFELY alter, and then save, without resorting to re-formatting, etc. Any help on the above would be greatly appreciated. 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Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Where's Dominic Clifton Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings List... Does anyone know the email or URL addresses Dominic Clifton, the author of IDE2AMI_5 He's no longer at dominicc@macmillan.co.uk Cop 'U Later... Tiny -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Reality is for people who lack imagination -- Anon *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956166940/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Wed Apr 19 18:18:55 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10043 invoked by uid 504); 19 Apr 2000 18:19:50 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 18:19:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3878-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 19 Apr 2000 18:17:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 20681 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 18:17:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 19 Apr 2000 18:17:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 18:17:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 7379 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2000 18:17:47 -0000 Received: from ns.merlin.net.au (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 19 Apr 2000 18:17:47 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp7.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.200]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id DAA30215 for ; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:47:39 +0930 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <38FD8D63.F100@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 03:48:55 +0930 X-eGroups-From: "Tony P. Parr" From: "Tony P. Parr" Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: WD hard drive Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk... On 19-Apr-00, you wrote: >> I've been given a 3.5" >> Western Digital Caviar 31600 1.6Mb AT Compatible Intelligent Drive >> from a PC. I wish to eventually fit this and need to know what is >> the correct formatting to use, Low-level formatting as per the >> Amiga Hard Drive manual with HDToolBox - or should I use the >> standard Workbench format tool and then do the partitioning, etc. >> with HDToolBox? > > "Low level format" is sometimes necessary to prepare SCSI disks for > partitioning and system formatting. It is /not/ required for IDE, and I don't > recommend you try, although all drives since the 120MB era should ignore it > and not wreck the drive. > > Low level formatting is not the same thing as a Workbench/system format - you > can't format the drive until it's partitioned. > > The stages are basically: > > Fit the drive. > Boot the HD Install disk. > Start HDToolBox. > Create your partitions. > Reboot with the HD Install disk (to ensure the new partitions are recognised). > Format them by selecting the icon then choosing Format from the menus. This is the info I was looking for. Thanks. >> Would my best option be to take my Amiga to an Amiga technician, and >> get him to back up all my software from my 4 partitions, fit, format >> and partition the hdrive(s), and copy all my software back to the new >> setup?? > > Copying software across from an existing drive can be tricky - you need to get > the two drives talking over the IDE bus at the same time if you want to skip > the backup stage. Set the new one to slave, and connect both to a 3 plug IDE > cable. If you can get it to boot okay, fine - partition the new drive (be > careful not to nuke the old one!) and copy the stuff across (use "Copy hd0: > newhd0: all CLONE" format - without the clone bit all your file dates and > comments will be lost! Yes, I want to do something similar. Keep my original drive (boot) change the second drive to the new drive, do all the bits and pieces necessary to this new drive. A bit simplistic as I know there's a lot more involved than the above. I suppose I'll get there in the end. Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* It is better to have tried and failed than to have failed to try, but the result's the same -- Mike Dennison *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online reservations. Enjoy a compact car nationwide for only $29 a day! 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Assuming it's an external modem, you just plug it into > your serial port and go (after turning up your serial port speed in Miami or > whatever :). If it's internal, forget it - it won't work at all. External. He's talking out his fundamental again. 8-) Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* A miracle would definitely be a step in the right direction -- Anon *Tony P. 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AT? I own a PS/2 keyboard if that is what you mean. > The Windows Keys ARE mapped as L&R-Amiga on mine. > (My interface uses a little PIC chip to convert the keycodes) PIC? > If I plug in an AT keyboard, the amiga keys > turn up on F11 & F12. > Sounds like you have some sort of "mongrel" version. what does that mean? > Try a W95 Keyboard with only 10 F keys.... i only saw Win95-keyboards _with_ the 11th and 12th f-key. Today I called Vesalia and ordered another adapter which should fix the problem since it is not connected to the chip next to the keyboard-thingy on the motherboard but directly to this keyboard- thingy. they promised to at least refund a certain amount of the old adapter when I send it back. Regards, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. Classmates.com has them all. 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I was just about to do the same thing. Except I broke the adapter today when I pulled it off the chip :( No refund for me then... Anyone know any DECENT pc keyboard adapters that arent those fragile little crappy upside down socket things? I've broken quite a few of those just by swapping them between motherboards.. Cya Zeem ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You can win $1000! Time-limited offer. 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I've broken quite > a few of those just by swapping them between motherboards.. Mr. Hardware was showing an outstanding little converter at the A2K show. I have a couple on order at this time. Might contact them at www.li.net/~hardware - and of course tell them I sent you. It will surely get me a truckload of free goodies... ;^) Another place that was doing A1200 conversions (including keyboards, I think) was EyeTech. They are in England but... really some nice goodies. Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enjoy the award-winning journalism of The New York Times with convenient home delivery. And for a limited time, get 50% off for the first 8 weeks by subscribing. 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Sorry, can't agree with that. :)) I use a 'mongrel' Win95 keyboard (with F1 - F12), on my A1200, and my Windows Keys function as L & R Amiga keys ok here. Next idea please :)) Regards -- You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. -- Thoreau John http://www.lordofchaos.co.uk John E Lord. chaos@free4all.co.uk ICQ 39248297 Nick = Chaos *** OS 3.5 *** ~*--------- A1200 BlizzardPPC 240mhz 060/50 --------*~ ~*----------------- BlizzardVision ----------------*~ Supporting Magnum Opus - http://www.magnumopus.co.uk Supporting Free Local Calls - http://www.unmetered.org.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956184719/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 20 02:30:15 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8472 invoked by uid 504); 20 Apr 2000 02:39:05 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:39:05 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3887-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2000 02:37:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 11355 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 02:35:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Apr 2000 02:35:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:35:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 7050 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 02:35:06 -0000 Received: from mail02.iprimus.com.au (203.134.65.91) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:35:06 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.168]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:36:49 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:30:15 +1000 X-eGroups-From: Colin Wenzel From: Colin Wenzel Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20-Apr-00, Jon Peterson wrote: > Hello ZimZum > On 19-Apr-00, you wrote: >> Anyone know any DECENT pc keyboard adapters that arent those >> fragile little crappy upside down socket things? I've broken quite >> a few of those just by swapping them between motherboards.. > > Mr. Hardware was showing an outstanding little converter at the A2K > show. I have a couple on order at this time. Might contact them at > www.li.net/~hardware - and of course tell them I sent you. It will > surely get me a truckload of free goodies... ;^) > > Another place that was doing A1200 conversions (including keyboards, > I think) was EyeTech. They are in England but... really some nice > goodies. > Also try Analogic computers in the UK. http://www.analogic.co.uk ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Win $1000 at eGroups! Click here to find out how: http://click.egroups.com/1/2861/2/_/490399/_/956198221/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 20 02:32:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8449 invoked by uid 504); 20 Apr 2000 02:38:19 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:38:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3886-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2000 02:36:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 11075 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 02:35:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Apr 2000 02:35:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:35:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 23628 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 02:35:08 -0000 Received: from mail02.iprimus.com.au (203.134.65.91) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:35:08 -0000 Received: from hotkey.net.au ([202.138.46.168]) by mail02.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:36:51 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 12:32:39 +1000 X-eGroups-From: Colin Wenzel From: Colin Wenzel Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20-Apr-00, Stefan Schulz wrote: > On 18-Apr-00, Colin Wenzel wrote: > >> On my $20 Win95 keyboard, there are no F11 & F12 keys, >> only the AT keyboards had those as far as I know. > > AT? I own a PS/2 keyboard if that is what you mean. Nope, I mean an AT keyboard for PC-AT crate. >> The Windows Keys ARE mapped as L&R-Amiga on mine. >> (My interface uses a little PIC chip to convert the keycodes) > > PIC? http://www.microchip.com > >> If I plug in an AT keyboard, the amiga keys >> turn up on F11 & F12. >> Sounds like you have some sort of "mongrel" version. > > what does that mean? I will presume your first language is not English, A "mongrel" is a creature of mixed & various parentage, causing the offspring to be of no identifiable breed. ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enjoy the award-winning journalism of The New York Times with convenient home delivery. 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I want to change the > homepage, nothing more. > CE, TTFN! > In IBrowse, go to the menu titled: "Preferences" and then select the "Settings" option.... ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956198496/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Thu Apr 20 02:43:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8058 invoked by uid 504); 20 Apr 2000 02:23:07 -0000 Received: from ck.egroups.com (208.50.144.69) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:23:07 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3885-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ck.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2000 02:21:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 3177 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 02:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Apr 2000 02:20:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:20:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 12100 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 02:20:09 -0000 Received: from fep4-orange.clear.net.nz (203.97.32.4) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 02:20:09 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m011-p022.chch.clear.net.nz [203.167.204.150]) by fep4-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.6) with SMTP id OAA14595; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 14:20:05 +1200 (NZST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 13:43:10 +1100 X-eGroups-From: Rick Giles From: Rick Giles Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Ibrowse Prefs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I havn't got the right libs to edit my Ibrowse prefs. Would someone mind me sending my prefs so they can change one thing in them? I want to change the homepage, nothing more. CE, TTFN! -- Why not go out on a limb? Isn't that where the fruit is? - Frank Scully ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get paid while you shop! You also get an additional 10% off on retailers like--Disney.com, eCost.com, FogDog.com and more. http://click.egroups.com/1/3416/2/_/490399/_/956197263/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From hugo@inbbs.fsnet.co.uk Thu Apr 20 09:39:21 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22013 invoked by uid 504); 20 Apr 2000 08:43:28 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 08:43:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3889-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2000 08:41:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 18649 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 08:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Apr 2000 08:41:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 08:41:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 10894 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 08:41:23 -0000 Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.23) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 08:41:23 -0000 Received: from modem-152.maine.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.70.152] helo=inbbs) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12iCWW-0004Ut-00; Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:41:20 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com, rickgiles@clear.net.nz Cc: Rick Giles Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Hugo Wilkinson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 20 Apr 2000 09:39:21 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ibrowse Prefs Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="BOUNDARY.2016170104.1" --BOUNDARY.2016170104.1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Rick > I havn't got the right libs to edit my Ibrowse prefs. > > Would someone mind me sending my prefs so they can > change one thing in them? I want to change the > homepage, nothing more. yup.. send it to me if you want, or alternatively i have attached a file containing the MUI libs that Ibrowse needs to open its Prefs editor... (small 8K archive)... cya hugo ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. 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m/6A5qv0Q/xvn+VU6f29zPnbDGb+Q+j5y/7pv559Hx70xf//VnwAAA== --BOUNDARY.2016170104.1-- From rickgiles@clear.net.nz Thu Apr 20 20:52:32 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11132 invoked by uid 504); 20 Apr 2000 19:55:24 -0000 Received: from fi.egroups.com (207.138.41.182) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 19:55:24 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3890-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 20 Apr 2000 19:53:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 6716 invoked from network); 20 Apr 2000 19:52:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Apr 2000 19:52:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fep3-orange.clear.net.nz) (203.97.32.3) by mta1 with SMTP; 20 Apr 2000 19:52:48 -0000 Received: from clear.net.nz (b001-m003-p001.chch.clear.net.nz [203.167.204.65]) by fep3-orange.clear.net.nz (1.5/1.6) with SMTP id HAA23190; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:52:44 +1200 (NZST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 1.3.4 [020] - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck From: Rick Giles MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 07:52:32 +1100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Ibrowse Prefs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 20-Apr-00, Hugo Wilkinson spake: |>Hello Rick |>> Would someone mind me sending my prefs so they can |>> change one thing in them? I want to change the |>yup.. send it to me if you want, or alternatively i have attached a file Thanks Hugo. Ie nobody else need help me, the famous french author is on the job. CE, TTFN! -- Why not go out on a limb? Isn't that where the fruit is? - Frank Scully ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956260394/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From stefan_schulz@gmx.de Fri Apr 21 14:33:28 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23575 invoked by uid 504); 21 Apr 2000 14:41:32 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (208.50.144.76) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:41:32 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3891-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2000 14:39:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 14260 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 14:38:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Apr 2000 14:38:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:38:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 15797 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 14:38:57 -0000 Received: from smtp1.nikoma.de (212.122.128.19) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:38:57 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (dialin15.pg4.hamburg.nikoma.de [213.54.3.15]) by smtp1.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA95149 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:38:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stefan_schulz@gmx.de) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Stefan Schulz MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:33:28 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] mongrel (Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20-Apr-00, Colin Wenzel wrote: > I will presume your first language is not English, > A "mongrel" is a creature of mixed & various parentage, > causing the offspring to be of no identifiable breed. thanks for explaining. Regards, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join Garden.com's affiliate program and enjoy numerous benefits. To learn more click here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2753/2/_/490399/_/956327940/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From stefan_schulz@gmx.de Fri Apr 21 14:36:05 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23591 invoked by uid 504); 21 Apr 2000 14:41:41 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:41:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3892-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2000 14:39:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 23101 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 14:38:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Apr 2000 14:38:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:38:59 -0000 Received: (qmail 15819 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 14:38:58 -0000 Received: from smtp1.nikoma.de (212.122.128.19) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:38:58 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (dialin15.pg4.hamburg.nikoma.de [213.54.3.15]) by smtp1.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA95152 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:38:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stefan_schulz@gmx.de) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Stefan Schulz MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:36:05 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Win95 keyboard @ A1200 problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 20-Apr-00, ZimZum wrote: > I was just about to do the same thing. Except I broke the adapter > today when I pulled it off the chip :( No refund for me then... I had no problem doing that - but I had to remove some of the metal shielding inside the A1200. bad work :( > Anyone know any DECENT pc keyboard adapters that arent those > fragile little crappy upside down socket things? I've broken quite > a few of those just by swapping them between motherboards.. I got the second, *nice* working one from Vesalia (Germany) yesterday. Works fine! Regards, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956327940/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From stefan_schulz@gmx.de Fri Apr 21 14:38:20 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23584 invoked by uid 504); 21 Apr 2000 14:41:35 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (208.50.144.76) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:41:35 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3893-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 21 Apr 2000 14:39:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 14350 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 14:39:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 21 Apr 2000 14:39:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:39:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 25849 invoked from network); 21 Apr 2000 14:39:00 -0000 Received: from smtp1.nikoma.de (212.122.128.19) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 21 Apr 2000 14:39:00 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (dialin15.pg4.hamburg.nikoma.de [213.54.3.15]) by smtp1.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA95155 for ; Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:38:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stefan_schulz@gmx.de) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Stefan Schulz MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 21 Apr 2000 16:38:20 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] replacing NetTime / Silversurfer Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I installed the nice working Silversurfer today and am now needing a program that can replace NetTime. I want a little window on the workbench that shows how long I'm online - and does that with silversurfer.device instead of serial.device. regards, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching. And, it's FREE! http://click.egroups.com/1/3013/2/_/490399/_/956327940/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From msayers@spidernet.com.cy Sat Apr 22 08:36:41 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28639 invoked by uid 504); 22 Apr 2000 08:39:59 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 08:39:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3894-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2000 08:37:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 26986 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2000 08:37:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Apr 2000 08:37:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail0.spidernet.net) (194.154.128.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 08:37:36 -0000 Received: from spidernet.com.cy (lim-c53s03-l065.spidernet.net [194.154.158.193] with SMTP) by mail0.spidernet.net (ElectricMail-MESSAGE-2.0-GAMMA-SSM1.1-ANTISPAM) id LAA01645; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:37:32 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mark Sayers MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 11:36:41 +0300 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] WordWorth7 and OS3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello All I just installed WW7 on my Amiga and it's not terribly stable. I have tried the 7.01 update patch didn't improve things too much. The Amiga freezes most times, after 5-10 mins use. I set it for Picasso I realise it possibly a hack/patch conflict but I wondered if anyone else has had similar problem. A2000-40 112Mb Ram OS3.5 PicassoIV TurboPrint7.11b Hacks:- MagicMenu, PowerSnap, ClicktoFront Regards Mark Sayers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956392658/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From badger@ducklington.u-net.com Sat Apr 22 15:56:58 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 12772 invoked by uid 504); 22 Apr 2000 16:09:13 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 16:09:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3895-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2000 16:06:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 13570 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2000 16:06:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Apr 2000 16:06:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 16:06:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 26428 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2000 16:06:46 -0000 Received: from mserv1c.u-net.net (195.102.240.33) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 16:06:46 -0000 Received: from [195.102.201.77] (helo=p9.nas3.is5.u-net.net) by mserv1c.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #35) id 12j2PW-0002LC-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 17:05:35 +0100 Organization: Badger Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/AmigaOS NC 1.0 From: "peter j west" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 22 Apr 100 15:56:58 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] WordWorth7 and OS3.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Hello All > > I just installed WW7 on my Amiga and it's not terribly stable. > I have tried the 7.01 update patch didn't improve things too much. > The Amiga freezes most times, after 5-10 mins use. > I set it for Picasso > > I realise it possibly a hack/patch conflict but I wondered if anyone > else has had similar problem. > > A2000-40 112Mb Ram OS3.5 PicassoIV TurboPrint7.11b > > Hacks:- MagicMenu, PowerSnap, ClicktoFront > > Regards > Mark Sayers > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ I have no prob's running TurboPrint7.1 with O.S.3.5 but I have found NetConnect3 next to useless, I changed back to NC2! Regards, Badger. A1200/Blizzard30/50,34meg. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join Garden.com's affiliate program and enjoy numerous benefits. To learn more click here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2753/2/_/490399/_/956419607/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Apr 22 18:54:32 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 23318 invoked by uid 504); 22 Apr 2000 20:30:09 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 20:30:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3896-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 22 Apr 2000 20:27:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 1191 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2000 20:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 22 Apr 2000 20:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 20:27:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 5138 invoked from network); 22 Apr 2000 20:27:39 -0000 Received: from itchy.thefree.net (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 20:27:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 23293 invoked by uid 504); 22 Apr 2000 20:29:26 -0000 Received: from nas02-198.74.thefree.net (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.198.74) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 22 Apr 2000 20:29:26 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 18:54:32 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Re:ASCIIprostudio (+ BTINTERNET anyone?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew,=20 On 18-Apr-00, you wrote: > http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ and like he=20 Isn't that excellent website hosted off one of the best sites around Andrew? i'm sure it is, it goes something like this, http://www.aio.co.uk Hey I might not be editor but i can still plug to death! :) > PS. Ian, why post onto just-amiga? Its so we can all come round to your house and help you "spend" your well earned money :) As this email seems pretty pointless and to save being flamed, i have a question to make it worthwhile.. BTInternet (UK only): Btinternet is offering evenings 6pm-midnight and all weekend for a flat rate or =A39.99 per month. Is anyone on this deal, 2 questions: 1) Can you get through all the time each time it logs you off after 2 hours or have do you regularly get engaged tones. 2) The dialup number is 0800 right, ie free from all telephone companies, i'm on Cable & Wireless so surely as its 0800 i can use it also, or do you for definate have to be on a BT phone line? 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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Heya! > BTInternet (UK only): > Btinternet is offering evenings 6pm-midnight and all > weekend for a flat rate or £9.99 per month. Is anyone > on this deal, 2 questions: > 1) Can you get through all the time each time it logs > you off after 2 hours or have do you regularly get > engaged tones. I regret to say that BT internet is actually pretty usable. No engaged tones and it is very fast! > 2) The dialup number is 0800 right, ie free from all > telephone companies, i'm on Cable & Wireless so surely > as its 0800 i can use it also, or do you for definate > have to be on a BT phone line? It is an 0800 number so as long as your phone company charge 0800 calls free (most of them except mobiles perhaps) you won't have any problems. C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... 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To learn more click here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2753/2/_/490399/_/956483507/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From alan@a51krew.demon.co.uk Sun Apr 23 09:28:57 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9718 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 09:54:19 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 09:54:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3901-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 10:51:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 14946 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 09:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 09:51:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 09:51:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 32045 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 09:51:46 -0000 Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.39) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 09:51:46 -0000 Received: from a51krew.demon.co.uk ([193.237.50.6]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12jJ3J-00091W-0B for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 09:51:45 +0000 Message-ID: <3902C259.65A00C86@a51krew.demon.co.uk> Organization: A51 DiGiTAL AUDiO X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD {WarezScape} (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en To: just-amiga@egroups.com References: From: Alan Gryniewicz MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:28:57 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Re:ASCIIprostudio (+ BTINTERNET anyone?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Heya! > If you are on C&W you may be able to use the ntl: freebie Internet > recently launched, If I remember right I think they were bought by ntl: > although I'm not sure for definate. I think you can use the ntl: access via a BT line. You just get a box and plug it in your phoneline so that all your calls are redirected through NTL:'s systems. But don't quote me on that! As for actual cable.... Come on! I live in Lincolnshire here!! heheh ;)) C yA! Alan -- __ __ _____ __ ... /\ |.. /\ \\\ __\ /\ |:._____..:: :... 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I doubt those hacks would make a machine terribly unstable, but the most offensive one based on my experience would be MagicMenu, some programs just don't like how it handles menu's. Although I use it along with the other hacks you have, and I don't consider PowerSnap or Clicktofront hacks... they've been living quite well on my system for years:) I suspect WW7 is the hack to toast. With all that ram, perhaps you have a sour chip or RF noise? On 22 Apr 100, peter j west wrote: > > Hello All > > > > I just installed WW7 on my Amiga and it's not terribly stable. > > I have tried the 7.01 update patch didn't improve things too much. > > The Amiga freezes most times, after 5-10 mins use. > > I set it for Picasso > > > > I realise it possibly a hack/patch conflict but I wondered if anyone > > else has had similar problem. > > > > A2000-40 112Mb Ram OS3.5 PicassoIV TurboPrint7.11b > > > > Hacks:- MagicMenu, PowerSnap, ClicktoFront > > > > Regards > > Mark Sayers > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > I have no prob's running TurboPrint7.1 with O.S.3.5 but I have found>> NetConnect3 next to useless, I changed back to NC2! 3.5 has been around for almost a half a year.. and is holding up well, going back a step in O/S is not going to solve much. 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And with 4.4 million alumni already registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2885/2/_/490399/_/956498365/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Sun Apr 23 14:06:16 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 18521 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 14:09:01 -0000 Received: from ho.egroups.com (208.50.144.85) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:09:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3903-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ho.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 14:06:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 8492 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 14:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 14:06:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mserv1a.u-net.net) (195.102.240.34) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:06:28 -0000 Received: from p68.nas1.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.200.68] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12jN2O-0000AT-00 for just-amiga@onelist.com; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:07:04 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Ditto X-Zero-Hour: in 252 days, 8 hours, 53 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:06:16 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, I need a new mouse, as my left button is packing in. I'd like: - three buttons (I use the middle one for left-double-click); - _no_ wheel. Any suggestions? Should I buy an Amiga mouse, or a PC serial mouse and a Punchinello adaptor? Thanks, -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956498789/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Sun Apr 23 14:25:46 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19296 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 14:28:21 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (208.50.144.79) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:28:21 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3904-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 14:25:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 4518 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 14:25:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 14:25:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:25:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 4347 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 14:25:46 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:25:46 -0000 Received: from wiser.excite.com ([199.172.152.234]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000423142546.LXX107.fortune.excite.com@wiser.excite.com> for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:25:46 -0700 Message-ID: <22746587.956499946467.JavaMail.imail@wiser.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.113.185.137 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 07:25:46 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: Re:ASCIIprostudio (+ BTINTERNET anyone?) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 22 Apr 2000 21:51:04 +0100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > Hi Chris >=20=20 > On 22-Apr-00, you wrote: >=20=20 > > Btinternet is offering evenings 6pm-midnight and all > > weekend for a flat rate or =A39.99 per month. Is anyone > > on this deal, 2 questions: right, im not on BT but my m8 is, and i use his acct regularly (but not now they have found out, but thats another story) The service is excellent, first time connect every time. for those of u who dont know about the times, its from 6pm - 12am weeknights, and on friday night it carries on untill sunday 12am. 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Visit=20 Tradiant today. http://click.egroups.com/1/3396/2/_/490399/_/956499947/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 23 14:27:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19441 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 14:31:51 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:31:51 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3906-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 14:29:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 24486 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 14:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 14:29:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:29:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 19634 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 14:29:13 -0000 Received: from mail12.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.215) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:29:13 -0000 Received: from modem-98.gold.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.59.98] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12jNNn-00079t-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:29:11 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Cc: JAM Mail List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:27:54 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hard Drive Settings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Hard Drive Settings," starring Tony P. Parr... On 19-Apr-00, you wrote: [Lots of techy stuff] Well, not sure about the techy questions, but: > NOTE 1: Last, but not least, the ID numbers: ST9051A and ST9114A > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > I presume these will tell someone in the know what brand they are, as > I have no idea - can anyone elucidate me? A quick look on altavista, and: http://www.computerhope.com/hdseagat.htm ST9051A- A Seagate drive. ST9114A- Given the similar number, also Seagate. Is that any help at all? Maybe you can look on Seagate's website for more detailed info. I seem to remember that http://www.pc-disk.de had many dive details. Give them a try. Sooner, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered! 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Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956500156/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 23 14:27:54 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19435 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 14:31:48 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:31:48 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3905-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 14:29:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 17734 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 14:29:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 14:29:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail12.svr.pol.co.uk) (195.92.193.215) by mta2 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 14:29:15 -0000 Received: from modem-98.gold.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.59.98] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by mail12.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12jNNn-00079t-00; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:29:11 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Cc: JAM Mail List Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 15:27:54 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hard Drive Settings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Hard Drive Settings," starring Tony P. Parr... On 19-Apr-00, you wrote: [Lots of techy stuff] Well, not sure about the techy questions, but: > NOTE 1: Last, but not least, the ID numbers: ST9051A and ST9114A > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > I presume these will tell someone in the know what brand they are, as > I have no idea - can anyone elucidate me? A quick look on altavista, and: http://www.computerhope.com/hdseagat.htm ST9051A- A Seagate drive. ST9114A- Given the similar number, also Seagate. Is that any help at all? Maybe you can look on Seagate's website for more detailed info. I seem to remember that http://www.pc-disk.de had many dive details. Give them a try. Sooner, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered! 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Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956500155/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From s.mowbray@btinternet.com Sun Apr 23 16:33:41 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 21722 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 15:39:59 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 15:39:59 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3907-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 15:37:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 26374 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 15:37:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 15:37:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 15:37:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 11384 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 15:37:09 -0000 Received: from tantalum.btinternet.com (HELO tantalum) (194.73.73.80) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 15:37:09 -0000 Received: from host213-1-187-253.btinternet.com ([213.1.187.253] helo=btinternet.com) by tantalum with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12jORK-0004Pf-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:36:55 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Stephen Mowbray MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:33:41 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Stephen On 23-Apr-00, you wrote: > Hi all, > > I need a new mouse, as my left button is packing in. > > I'd like: > - three buttons (I use the middle one for left-double-click); > - _no_ wheel. > > Any suggestions? Should I buy an Amiga mouse, or a PC serial mouse > and a Punchinello adaptor? I can strongly recommend the Punchinello adaptor. The mouse supplied with it ( in the £24.95 package ) is of good quality but comes with a wheel - however, the wheel can be used as a third mouse button if you have the software. Punchinello is fully compatible with early start-up menus by the way. Only possible drawback is the adaptor size. It protrudes 5 inches from the back of the Amiga so if desktop space is tight you may need to look at other alternatives. Regards -- Stephen Mowbray Bourne, Lincolnshire (famous for nothing at all) United Kingdom ICQ - 69860447 Amiga User since 1987. AMIGA - A better way of doing things. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? With 4.4 million alumni already registered at Classmates.com, there's a good chance you'll find her here. Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956504233/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Sun Apr 23 16:43:22 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24268 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 16:46:11 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (208.50.144.76) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 16:46:11 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3908-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 16:43:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 26094 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 16:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 16:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 16:43:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 29857 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 16:43:36 -0000 Received: from mserv1a.u-net.net (195.102.240.34) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 16:43:36 -0000 Received: from p68.nas1.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.200.68] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12jPUR-0005Tz-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:44:12 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Raichu X-Zero-Hour: in 252 days, 6 hours, 16 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:43:22 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stephen Mowbray wrote: > The mouse supplied with it ( in the =A324.95 package ) is of good > quality but comes with a wheel - however, the wheel can be used as > a third mouse button if you have the software. Does said software come with the adaptor, or is it on Aminet, or do I have to buy it separately? > Punchinello is fully compatible with early start-up menus by the way.=20 Excellent, that's good to know. > Only possible drawback is the adaptor size. It protrudes 5 inches from > the back of the Amiga Not a problem, I've got plenty of space. > Stephen Mowbray > Bourne, Lincolnshire (famous for nothing at all) My parents live in Spalding, just down the road from Bourne :-) Thanks, -Stephen --=20 [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join Garden.com's affiliate program and enjoy numerous benefits.=20 To learn more click here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2753/2/_/490399/_/956508218/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From stefan_schulz@gmx.de Sun Apr 23 17:20:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25784 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 17:24:01 -0000 Received: from mq.egroups.com (208.50.144.79) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:24:01 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3910-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mq.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 17:21:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 12780 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 17:21:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 17:21:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:21:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 18168 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 17:21:24 -0000 Received: from smtp1.nikoma.de (212.122.128.19) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:21:24 -0000 Received: from gmx.de (dialin75.pg4.hamburg.nikoma.de [213.54.3.75]) by smtp1.nikoma.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA61317 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:21:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stefan_schulz@gmx.de) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Stefan Schulz MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:20:10 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 23-Apr-00, Stephen Williams wrote: > I'd like: > - three buttons (I use the middle one for left-double-click); > - _no_ wheel. sad to hear - otherwise I'd recommend my great new 3-button- Logitech-mouse *with* wheel (but no support yet) and the Elbox adapter. both for about $50. and worth it - the best mouse I ever had! btw: what does 'rodent' mean? Regards, Stefan -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2885/2/_/490399/_/956510485/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Sun Apr 23 17:24:48 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25961 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 17:27:38 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:27:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3911-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 17:25:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 21475 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 17:25:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 17:25:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:25:01 -0000 Received: (qmail 22982 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 17:25:00 -0000 Received: from mserv1a.u-net.net (195.102.240.34) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:25:00 -0000 Received: from p68.nas1.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.200.68] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12jQ8W-0006ro-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:25:37 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Koffing X-Zero-Hour: in 252 days, 5 hours, 35 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:24:48 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Stefan Schulz wrote: > btw: what does 'rodent' mean? It's a sort of animal - mice, rats and hamsters are all rodents. Sorry for confusing you. -Stephen -- [[ http://www.nysa.cx/ ]] ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Enter to WIN one of 10 NEW Kenmore Ranges! Only at sears.com http://click.egroups.com/1/2677/2/_/490399/_/956510703/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sw-egroups@nysa.u-net.com Sun Apr 23 17:40:53 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 26497 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 17:43:41 -0000 Received: from b05.egroups.com (207.138.41.189) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:43:41 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3912-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by b05.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 17:41:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 7380 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 17:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 17:41:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:41:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 29974 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 17:41:05 -0000 Received: from mserv1a.u-net.net (195.102.240.34) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 17:41:05 -0000 Received: from p68.nas1.is5.u-net.net ([195.102.200.68] helo=nysa.u-net.com) by mserv1a.u-net.net with smtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12jQO5-0007S7-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:41:41 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 (AmigaOS) - http://www.yam.ch/ X-Pokemon: Charmander X-Zero-Hour: in 252 days, 5 hours, 19 minutes X-eGroups-From: Stephen Williams From: Stephen Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:40:53 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrew Crowe wrote: > Nah, just get a 3-button amiga mouse. 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Click here! http://click.egroups.com/1/3410/2/_/490399/_/956511666/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Sun Apr 23 17:46:14 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 24428 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 16:49:36 -0000 Received: from hi.egroups.com (208.50.144.89) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 16:49:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3909-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 16:47:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 1247 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 16:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 16:46:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 16:46:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 20473 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 16:46:19 -0000 Received: from mail.enterprise.net (194.72.192.18) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 16:46:19 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax04-114.enterprise.net [212.161.114.114]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id RAA07145 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:46:16 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:46:14 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Everybody, >> Any suggestions? Should I buy an Amiga mouse, or a PC serial mouse >> and a Punchinello adaptor? >=20 > I can strongly recommend the Punchinello adaptor. The mouse supplied with= it > ( in the =A324.95 package ) is of good quality but comes with a wheel - > however, the wheel can be used as a third mouse button if you have the > software.=20 > Punchinello is fully compatible with early start-up menus by the way.=20 Nah, just get a 3-button amiga mouse. I'd recommend a Wizard mouse, only= =A39.99 (iirc) and it works really well. You should look out for one See ya :) --=20 Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 10/04/00 - Amiga seal of approval added = =20 - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - I've learned that life is one crushing defeat after another until you just = wish Flanders was dead. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956508422/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Sun Apr 23 21:08:13 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 12427 invoked by uid 504); 24 Apr 2000 02:49:34 -0000 Received: from ci.egroups.com (207.138.41.176) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 02:49:34 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3914-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ci.egroups.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2000 02:46:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 28503 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 02:46:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 24 Apr 2000 02:46:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 02:46:56 -0000 Received: (qmail 29224 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 02:46:56 -0000 Received: from smtp.callnetuk.com (212.67.128.5) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 02:46:56 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.132.182] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A59D65530052; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 03:46:53 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: roger buckley MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 22:08:13 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Ian On 24-Apr-00, you wrote: > Hello Andrew >=20 >> Nah, just get a 3-button amiga mouse. I'd recommend a Wizard mouse, >> only =A39.99 (iirc) and it works really well. You should look out for on= e >=20 > I would certainly agree with your choice (Wizard 3 button) However I don'= t > think you can get them anymore ..... Or if anyone does know a Supplier wi= th > a stock could they let me know :) (great Mouse) >=20 we recently had this problem on another list and the wizards are like rocki= ng horse droppings. Hisoft are doing the black 2 button mice for 4.99 plus p&p= . Regards --=20 Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410= MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer. Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu ICQ-62990780 Robuck2 Reality is for people who lack imagination. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Your high school sweetheart-where is he now? 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Visit your online high school class reunion at: http://click.egroups.com/1/3139/2/_/490399/_/956544417/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sun Apr 23 23:08:10 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 30788 invoked by uid 504); 28 Apr 2000 23:07:09 -0000 Received: from hk.egroups.com (208.50.144.91) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 23:07:09 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3936-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2000 23:07:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 30984 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 23:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Apr 2000 23:07:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 23:07:18 -0000 Received: (qmail 8821 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 23:07:17 -0000 Received: from mail.franceenligne.net (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 23:07:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 30779 invoked by uid 504); 28 Apr 2000 23:07:03 -0000 Received: from nas02-198.240.thefree.net (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.198.240) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 23:07:03 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:08:10 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all, As you know i'm not making AIO its been passed into the capable hands of some other lucky being :) Now, I have no Amiga project at all, is anyone doing anything that they might need help with? looking to start up a project? Anything Web Based or Amiga based or a combination of both i'm interested, let me know personally if you need any help. 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Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/956963239/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ian@ferret22.freeserve.co.uk Mon Apr 24 01:27:16 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31304 invoked by uid 504); 23 Apr 2000 19:39:39 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 19:39:39 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3913-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 23 Apr 2000 20:37:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 13239 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 23 Apr 2000 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 19:37:04 -0000 Received: (qmail 16006 invoked from network); 23 Apr 2000 19:37:04 -0000 Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.19) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 23 Apr 2000 19:37:03 -0000 Received: from modem-1.lutetium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.55.1] helo=ferret22.freeserve.co.uk) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12jSBh-00052A-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:37:02 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Ian C Fyvie MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 20:27:16 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Andrew O >> I can strongly recommend the Punchinello adaptor. The mouse supplied wit= h >> it ( in the =A324.95 package ) is of good quality but comes with a wheel= - >> however, the wheel can be used as a third mouse button if you have the >> software. >> Punchinello is fully compatible with early start-up menus by the way. >=20 > Nah, just get a 3-button amiga mouse. I'd recommend a Wizard mouse, > only =A39.99 (iirc) and it works really well. You should look out for one I would certainly agree with your choice (Wizard 3 button) However I don't think you can get them anymore ..... Or if anyone does know a Supplier with a stock could they let me know :) (great Mouse) Best --=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Ian c Fyvie Co-Editor of the RIPPER Magazine http://www.theripper.org.uk Glasgow Amiga User Group gaug-subscribe@onelist.com UIN 53676250 ()-()=20=20=20=20 (o o) The Ferret=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 \o/=20=20=20=20=20=20 =20 =20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20=20 Sex is hereditary. 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Parr... On 19-Apr-00, you wrote: >>> On storage devices >>> ------------------ I just read an ad for the Imation Super Disk Drive >>> for the PC. >> >>> 120Mb 2x parallel port drive - reads 720k, 1.44Mb and 120Mb disks. >> >>> This, and many other storage devices are constantly advertised in the >>> various PC magazines. >> >> Are these LS-20 compatible? If so, you can get them in IDE or SCSI >> flavours which should fit on easily, like a ZIP drive. > > I have no idea what this means. I've never heard the term LS-20. He means LS-120. That is, the drive from Panasonic (?), that reads/writes normal 1.44Mb HD disks, and proprietry 120Mb disks. Sooner, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered! 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Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 02:07:47 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Hard Drive Settings Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Sandy... On 23-Apr-00, you wrote: > Well, not sure about the techy questions, but: > >> NOTE 1: Last, but not least, the ID numbers: ST9051A and ST9114A >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> I presume these will tell someone in the know what brand they are, as >> I have no idea - can anyone elucidate me? > > A quick look on altavista, and: > > http://www.computerhope.com/hdseagat.htm > > ST9051A- A Seagate drive. > > ST9114A- Given the similar number, also Seagate. > > Is that any help at all? Maybe you can look on Seagate's website for more > detailed info. > I seem to remember that http://www.pc-disk.de had many dive details. Give > them a try. Thx Sandy. I'll try them when my ISP has finished mucking around, It seems I've been locked out of all URL's in my address list except Merlin itself, and I couldn't even send them a mail to complain. BTW... one of the ShowConfig clones reported that the small drive was a Microbotix. This is the drive that came fitted to my A1200. Regards... Tony -- */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* If our world had no fences or walls, why would we need Gates and Windows? -- ToPPer *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2885/2/_/490399/_/956594464/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mick@failes.freewire.co.uk Mon Apr 24 19:35:15 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10468 invoked by uid 504); 24 Apr 2000 18:39:20 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 18:39:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3917-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2000 18:36:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 19380 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 18:36:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 24 Apr 2000 18:36:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 18:36:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 20155 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 18:36:34 -0000 Received: from get.freewire.net (195.184.229.250) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 18:36:34 -0000 Received: from freewire.net (Mick@d3-s5-165-telehouse.mistral.co.uk [195.184.228.165]) by get.freewire.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id TAA23368 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:25:33 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mick Failes MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:35:15 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] DIY Tower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I'm new to the list & new to this comms stuff :-) I've been toying with the idea of jamming my A1500 into a tower case, just so i can get more drives and stuff in really :-)) I was wondering if anyone out there had tried something like this and could recommend a course of action. Maplins do an ATX tower case that is massive (620x190x415mm) (order code TT94C) and in theory that should give enough room to get my motherboard in, as you know the A2k/A15k is not exactly a dainty beast. However i dont want to fork out 30 odd squids before checking out other options. Any help with this would be much appreciated thanx. Kind regards Miclk -- A1500 (ECS) 030/882 25MHz 34Mb, 3 FDD, 4.5GB HD 8 x CDROM, Handscanner, Hypercom3+, Picasso IV, VGA Mon, Optimus speakers, MagicXpress 56K. Old but but hard! email: mfailes@freenet.co.uk mick@failes.freewire.co.uk Do not remove a fly from your friend's forehead with a hatchet. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956601396/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From msayers@spidernet.com.cy Mon Apr 24 19:46:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14332 invoked by uid 504); 24 Apr 2000 19:49:08 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 19:49:08 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3918-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2000 19:46:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 25459 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 19:46:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 24 Apr 2000 19:46:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 19:46:24 -0000 Received: (qmail 17267 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 19:46:18 -0000 Received: from picasso.spidernet.net (HELO mail0.spidernet.net) (194.154.128.2) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 19:46:18 -0000 Received: from spidernet.com.cy (lim-c53s02-l105.spidernet.net [194.154.147.113] with SMTP) by mail0.spidernet.net (ElectricMail-MESSAGE-2.0-GAMMA-SSM1.1-ANTISPAM) id WAA18529; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:46:12 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mark Sayers MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 22:46:09 +0300 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DIY Tower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mick On 24-Apr-00, you wrote: > I've been toying with the idea of jamming my A1500 into a tower > case, just so i can get more drives and stuff in really :-)) >=20 > I was wondering if anyone out there had tried something like this > and could recommend a course of action. I did just this, it not for the faint hearted, I found a full sized AT tower. Then after quite a lot of metal work, i.e. cutting port slots removing a couple of my new found 5=BE bays, turning the PSU thru 90 degrees, it all came together. I have heard another route is to use a Midi sized PC case piggy backed as an additional large drive bay. (A lot less hassle) =20 > Maplins do an ATX tower case that is massive (620x190x415mm) (order > code TT94C) and in theory that should give enough room to get my > motherboard in, as you know the A2k/A15k is not exactly a daintyi I needed access to the CPU,and Video slots and this was the difficultly for me hence all the cutting. Oh and some connectors are on the front of the 1k5/2k Mboard like mouse/key ports and I made leads up to route them to the rear of the case. There is at least one description of the task in Aminet probably under Hard/Hacks. Good luck in your endeavours. Regards Mark Sayers ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956605585/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From mick@failes.freewire.co.uk Mon Apr 24 21:11:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 16421 invoked by uid 504); 24 Apr 2000 20:19:22 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 20:19:22 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3919-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 24 Apr 2000 20:16:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 4333 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 20:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 24 Apr 2000 20:12:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 20:12:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 31700 invoked from network); 24 Apr 2000 20:12:16 -0000 Received: from get.freewire.net (195.184.229.250) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 24 Apr 2000 20:12:16 -0000 Received: from freewire.net (Mick@d2-s29-125-telehouse.mistral.co.uk [195.184.228.125]) by get.freewire.net (8.8.7/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA09122 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:01:15 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mick Failes MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:11:01 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DIY Tower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mark On 24-Apr-00, you wrote: >> I've been toying with the idea of jamming my A1500 into a tower >> case, just so i can get more drives and stuff in really :-)) > I did just this, it not for the faint hearted, I found a full sized AT > tower. Then after quite a lot of metal work, i.e. cutting port slots > removing a couple of my new found 5=BE bays, turning the PSU thru 90 > degrees, it all came together. I don't suppose U kept a record did U M8 ?? > I have heard another route is to use a Midi sized PC case piggy backed > as an additional large drive bay. (A lot less hassle) Does this mean i'll have ribbon cabbles etc running from the back of one case into the other, if so what U R saying is just bung a little (midi) tower on top of my existing case just to keep the extra drives in yes ? Damn fine idea! =20 > There is at least one description of the task in Aminet probably under > Hard/Hacks. Thanx very much, i shall go have a peek. Regards Mick. --=20 A1500 (ECS) 030/882 25MHz 34Mb, 4.5GB HD 8 x CDROM,=20 Hypercom3+, Picasso IV, VGA Mon, MagicXpress 56K & a few other bits ;-) The best way to destroy an enemy is to make him your friend. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already=20 registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2885/2/_/490399/_/956607394/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Mon Apr 24 23:28:40 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 29299 invoked by uid 504); 25 Apr 2000 00:18:17 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 00:18:17 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3920-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2000 00:15:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 25611 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2000 00:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Apr 2000 00:15:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 00:15:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 20298 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2000 00:15:25 -0000 Received: from smtp.callnetuk.com (212.67.128.5) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 00:15:25 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.129.209] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A39CB2EE00A0; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 01:15:24 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: roger buckley MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 00:28:40 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DIY Tower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Mick On 24-Apr-00, you wrote: > >> I have heard another route is to use a Midi sized PC case piggy backed >> as an additional large drive bay. (A lot less hassle) > > Does this mean i'll have ribbon cabbles etc running from the back of > one case into the other, if so what U R saying is just bung a little (midi) > tower on top of my existing case just to keep the extra drives in yes ? > Damn fine idea! > That's the route I took with my 1200, CDRom, scsi Hard drive, external floppy all in the midi and power to the 1200 from the 'beast', plus got room and power connectors for another two items. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer. Website:-http://callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu ICQ-62990780 Robuck2 Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will pick himself up and carry on... -- Winston Churchill ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956621726/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From tony@merlin.net.au Tue Apr 25 16:52:27 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 14691 invoked by uid 504); 25 Apr 2000 16:52:42 -0000 Received: from fk.egroups.com (208.50.144.73) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 16:52:42 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3922-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2000 16:49:51 -0000 Received: (qmail 31700 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2000 16:49:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Apr 2000 16:49:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.merlin.net.au) (203.20.229.2) by mta1 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 16:49:48 -0000 Received: from .merlin.net.au (tony@ppp19.merlin.net.au [203.20.229.212]) by arthur.merlin.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA25055 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:19:40 +0930 To: JAM Mail List Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; dob=26111941 From: "Tony P. Parr" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:22:27 +0930 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] ISP trubs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings =C2ll... My ISP has been down most of Easter, (Friday to Monday) so, if anyone has sent me mail in answer to my queries on FFS and Harddrives, could they please re-send as all my mail seems to have been lost. Thanx in advance. Cop 'U Later... Tiny --=20 */------- Philosophical Persiflage: ------- ------ ----- ---- --- -- -/* Some people hope to achieve immortality through their works or their children. I would prefer to achieve it by not dying -- Woody Allen *Tony P. Parr - ( aka /ToPPer/ )* *AMIGA FOREVER - FOREVER AMIGA* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Good friends, school spirit, hair-dos you'd like to forget. Classmates.com has them all. And with 4.4 million alumni already=20 registered, there's a good chance you'll find your friends here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2885/2/_/490399/_/956681391/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Tue Apr 25 22:13:31 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4053 invoked by uid 504); 25 Apr 2000 21:28:03 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 21:28:03 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3923-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 25 Apr 2000 21:25:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 18040 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2000 21:25:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 25 Apr 2000 21:25:07 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 21:25:07 -0000 Received: (qmail 14228 invoked from network); 25 Apr 2000 21:25:07 -0000 Received: from smtp2.home.se (195.66.45.71) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 25 Apr 2000 21:25:07 -0000 Received: from home.se (MrMister@cvx-sto-1-314.ppp.netlink.se [212.242.103.218]) by smtp2.home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA16777 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:25:05 +0200 (CEST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="snorslex.amiga.tm"; street="=?iso-8859-1?Q?Durkv=E4gen?= 2"; city="94533 Rosvik"; country="Sweden"; phone="+46-0911-206958"; dob=18011981 From: Lorens Johansson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:13:31 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Rodent recommendation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stephen... >> Nah, just get a 3-button amiga mouse. I'd recommend a Wizard mouse, >> only =A39.99 (iirc) and it works really well. You should look out for on= e >=20 > Thanks for the recommendation. Are Wizard's available anywhere??? I surely can't find it :/ Tell me where, and I'll order a few extras too, I love em, and the one I have is getting old and kinda bad :/ /Lorens --=20 Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 WinErr 103: Error buffer overflow - Too many errors encountered. Additional= errors may not be displayed or recorded ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Avoid the lines and visit avis.com for quick and easy online=20 reservations. Enjoy a compact car nationwide for only $29 a day!=20 Click here for more details. http://click.egroups.com/1/3011/2/_/490399/_/956697909/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From drstrange@jps.net Wed Apr 26 00:14:02 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13741 invoked by uid 504); 26 Apr 2000 00:23:26 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 00:23:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3925-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2000 00:20:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 23782 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2000 00:15:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Apr 2000 00:15:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta1 with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 00:15:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 15982 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2000 00:15:35 -0000 Received: from smtp-out001.onemain.com (HELO mail017.mail.onemain.com) (63.208.208.71) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 00:15:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 22634 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2000 00:15:34 -0000 Received: from 209-239-212-10.lax.jps.net (HELO jps.net) ([209.239.212.10]) (envelope-sender ) by mail017.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 26 Apr 2000 00:15:34 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mark Tierno From: Mark Tierno MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:14:02 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] AIOV35.LHA corrupt file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, The archive mailed out to subscribers and uploaded to Aminet had one corrupt file in it. Nothing critical, just a picture grab that refused to archive properly. It's been fixed, and the correct version of the archive is now on the AIO site and has just been uploaded again to Aminet (should be up in a day or two). Sorry about the problem. -Mark Tierno AIO Editor -- A fool-proof method for sculpting an elephant: first, get a huge block of marble; then you chip away everything that doesn't look like an elephant. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ WIN A $5,000 SHOPPING SPREE FROM RESPOND.COM Just make a request, and you'll be automatically entered to win! http://click.egroups.com/1/3577/2/_/490399/_/956708402/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Wed Apr 26 01:19:52 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13939 invoked by uid 504); 26 Apr 2000 00:31:12 -0000 Received: from hh.egroups.com (208.50.144.88) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 00:31:12 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3926-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by hh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2000 00:28:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 21253 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2000 00:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 26 Apr 2000 00:28:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 00:28:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 3654 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2000 00:28:13 -0000 Received: from smtp1.home.se (HELO home.se) (195.66.45.70) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 00:28:13 -0000 Received: from home.se (MrMister@[212.242.108.131]) by home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA58342 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:28:08 +0200 (CEST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="snorslex.amiga.tm"; street="=?iso-8859-1?Q?Durkv=E4gen?= 2"; city="94533 Rosvik"; country="Sweden"; phone="+46-0911-206958"; dob=18011981 From: Lorens Johansson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:19:52 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: AIOV35.LHA corrupt file Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mark... > The archive mailed out to subscribers and uploaded to Aminet had one > corrupt file in it. Nothing critical, just a picture grab that refused to > archive properly. It's been fixed, and the correct version of the archive > is now on the AIO site and has just been uploaded again to Aminet (should > be up in a day or two). > > Sorry about the problem. A good thing can be to do a: lha t aiovXX.lha in the future :) /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 Windows NT = Windows No Technology ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Now the best and coolest websites come right to you based on your unique interests. eTour.com is surfing without searching. And, it's FREE! http://click.egroups.com/1/3013/2/_/490399/_/956708894/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From philbert@cyberone.com.au Thu Apr 27 00:22:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 19352 invoked by uid 504); 27 Apr 2000 11:08:58 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 11:08:58 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3927-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2000 11:09:12 -0000 Received: (qmail 21712 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2000 11:09:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Apr 2000 11:09:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 11:09:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 10368 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2000 11:09:08 -0000 Received: from jake.canberra.net.au (HELO smtp.canberra.net.au) (203.29.91.119) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 11:09:08 -0000 Received: from cyberone.com.au (dialup76.sydney.net.au [202.61.208.16]) by smtp.canberra.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA12268 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:09:04 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Phil Collins MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:22:09 +1100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A few weeks ago, someone mentioned that modern HD's shouldn't be formatted with a Directory Cache. I have a 1.2GB Toshiba MK2720FC, which I DID format (in 4 partitions) with Cache ON. The only thing I have noticed of concern, is that numerous small files take a very long time to read or delete. Could this be caused by the Directory Cache setting ON at formatting? Should I reformat with Directory Cache OFF? Is there a way to do this without deleting everything? Thanks in anticipation!! Phil Collins Sydney, Australia. My Amiga and HD specs are as follows:- A1200, Apollo 040/40, 18mb. HD model name : Toshiba MK2720FC 2.5inch Formatted Capacity : 1.35GB Buffer(cache) Capacity : 128KB Number of Disks : 5 Number of Heads : 10 Rotational Speed : 4,200rpm Number of Logical Cylinder : 2,633 Number of Logical Heads : 16 Number of Logical Sector : 63 Number of Sectors(LBA mode) : 2,654,280 (288048H) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why buy CDs? Now you can swap for them. At Switchouse.com, you can choose from over 300,000 titles of every kind of music. 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Box 728"; city="Nambour, 4560"; country="Queensland, Australia"; phone="++61 413 584197"; dob=1011965 Organization: Doms' Computer Systems (DCS) From: Dominique Harelle MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 22:14:49 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Phil Collins Date: 27-Apr-00 Subject: [just-amiga] HD Cache Hello Phil, > A few weeks ago, someone mentioned that modern HD's shouldn't be > formatted with a Directory Cache. > I have a 1.2GB Toshiba MK2720FC, which I DID format (in 4 > partitions) with Cache ON. > The only thing I have noticed of concern, is that numerous small > files take a very long time to read or delete. > Could this be caused by the Directory Cache setting ON at > formatting? > Should I reformat with Directory Cache OFF? > Is there a way to do this without deleting everything? Short answer = yes. Also, make sure that you do not have it ticked withing HDToolbox. This is from the OS3.5 manual. Directory Cache Using the directory cache is not recommended for hard drives, only in very special cases should this option be activated. Regards Dom... -- Dominique Harelle - http://usrwww.mpx.com.au/~dharelle/index.html E-Mail : dharelle@mpx.com.au or dharelle@excite.com ICQ - 17907440 My AMIGA 2000 Made This Possible + I am a member of Team AMIGA ------------------------------------------------------------------------ You set the price on thousands of products. Computers, electronics, art, home appliances and more. 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There is a utility by Holger Kruse on Aminet called 'Re-Org', which I believe is version 3.11. This is a utility for optimising hard drives, but it also gives you the option of choosing a different file system when you proceed with the optimisation. The only drawback is that optimising hard drives can be risky at times, so it is usually advisable to do a back up first. Hope this info helps you. Jeff Wheeler Cap Gemini UK (Rotherham) jeffrey.wheeler@capgemini.co.uk Tel: Internal: 717 6041 External: (01709) 84 6041 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why buy CDs? Now you can swap for them. At Switchouse.com, you can choose from over 300,000 titles of every kind of music. Top 20 hits, R&B, hardcore, whatever. Get the music. Forget the money. Sound good? http://click.egroups.com/1/3717/2/_/490399/_/956839323/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From colstv@hotkey.net.au Thu Apr 27 14:18:21 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31639 invoked by uid 504); 27 Apr 2000 14:16:13 -0000 Received: from jk.egroups.com (208.50.144.83) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 14:16:13 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3930-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by jk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2000 14:16:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 9301 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2000 14:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Apr 2000 14:16:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 14:16:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 2909 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2000 14:16:14 -0000 Received: from mail01.iprimus.com.au (203.134.64.91) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 14:16:14 -0000 Received: (apparently) from hotkey.net.au ([203.134.101.60]) by mail01.iprimus.com.au with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.467.46); Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:18:07 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Colin Wenzel MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:18:21 +1000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 27-Apr-00, Phil Collins wrote: -snip- > Is there a way to do this without deleting everything? > The short & safe answer is no, you would be better to copy the files to somewhere else & reformat the partition... Then copy the files back... There is however, other options, but I would have to type far too much & my fingers are tired.... ------------------------------------- Colin Wenzel. Australia. EMAIL: mailto:colstv@hotkey.net.au URL: http://www.hotkey.net.au/~colstv/ ICQ: 17608330 AMIGA: 4000T, 68060/50, 150Mb RAM, OS 3.5, EGS Spectrum. --------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956844982/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From andrewcrowe@enterprise.net Thu Apr 27 18:29:11 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9815 invoked by uid 504); 27 Apr 2000 17:39:14 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 17:39:14 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3931-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 27 Apr 2000 17:29:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 13907 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2000 17:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 27 Apr 2000 17:29:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 17:29:22 -0000 Received: (qmail 22428 invoked from network); 27 Apr 2000 17:29:21 -0000 Received: from mail.enterprise.net (194.72.192.18) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 27 Apr 2000 17:29:21 -0000 Received: from enterprise.net (andrewcrowe@cmax05-044.enterprise.net [212.161.115.44]) by mail.enterprise.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA16030 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:29:15 +0100 (GMT/BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <07E46B1DAB75D311BB140008C75D96C93F58F6@exsbh03.capgemini.co.uk> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Andrew Crowe MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:29:11 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Everybody, > There is a utility by Holger Kruse on Aminet called 'Re-Org', which I > believe is version 3.11. This is a utility for optimising hard drives, but > it also gives you the option of choosing a different file system when you > proceed with the optimisation. The only drawback is that optimising hard > drives can be risky at times, so it is usually advisable to do a back up > first. Hope this info helps you. I've used Re-org on my 4.3gig harddrive a few times, with no problems. I presume that if you use it's fileformat converting, then it should work noprob. If you have more then 1 partition, you could compress everything onto one partition, reorg the other one. Then swap the backup and do the next one etc. Then you can unarchive everything back :) See ya :) -- Manta Soft - Amiga programing & web page designing http://mantasoft.aio.co.uk/ ICQ: 21829166 Homepage updated 10/04/00 - Amiga seal of approval added - ------------------- Quote of the day: -------------------- - Everything in The Dam Busters (1955) was painstakingly accurate, except for one thing. 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I have a 1.2GB Toshiba MK2720FC, which I DID format (in 4 PC> partitions) with Cache ON. No hard disks should be formatted with dircache on. PC> The only thing I have noticed of concern, is that numerous small files PC> take a very long time to read or delete. Yes, this is caused by it. Dir cache should only be used on floppy disks, where the medium is slower than the cache. Other mediums are actually much faster than the cache it uses. You should format to FFS International. International mode uses no extra disk space or speed and is identical except that non-English Latinised characters are ordered correctly. PC> Could this be caused by the Directory Cache setting ON at formatting? PC> Should I reformat with Directory Cache OFF? Is there a way to do this PC> without deleting everything? You can /try/ ReOrg, which has an option to alter the FFS type while it's working. I would very much recommend that you backup even before using this however - I once lost a HDs contents when the machine went down during reorg. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956950255/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From philbert@cyberone.com.au Fri Apr 28 07:23:51 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22829 invoked by uid 504); 28 Apr 2000 08:24:47 -0000 Received: from mv.egroups.com (208.50.144.81) by itchy.thefree.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 08:24:47 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3932-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2000 09:24:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 23684 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 08:24:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Apr 2000 08:24:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 08:24:28 -0000 Received: (qmail 29566 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 08:24:27 -0000 Received: from jake.canberra.net.au (HELO smtp.canberra.net.au) (203.29.91.119) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 08:24:27 -0000 Received: from cyberone.com.au (dialup109.sydney.net.au [202.61.208.49]) by smtp.canberra.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA06119 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:24:21 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <956908870.13819@egroups.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Phil Collins MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:23:51 +1100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > A few weeks ago, someone mentioned that modern HD's shouldn't > be formatted with a Directory Cache. I have a 1.2GB Toshiba > MK2720FC, which I DID format (in 4 partitions) with Cache ON. > > The only thing I have noticed of concern, is that numerous > small files take a very long time to read or delete. > > Could this be caused by the Directory Cache setting ON at > formatting? > Should I reformat with Directory Cache OFF? > Is there a way to do this without deleting everything? > > Thanks in anticipation!! > Thanks everyone for the advice - I'll try reformatting using ReOrg, and if that's no good I'll hit it with a full format. Phil Collins, Sydney, Australia. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ IT Professionals: Match your unique skills with the best IT projects at http://click.egroups.com/1/3381/2/_/490399/_/956910268/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From thehustler_amiga@excite.com Fri Apr 28 17:58:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10561 invoked by uid 504); 28 Apr 2000 18:04:18 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 18:04:18 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3933-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2000 18:04:03 -0000 Received: (qmail 19624 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 17:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Apr 2000 17:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 17:58:54 -0000 Received: (qmail 23076 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 17:58:39 -0000 Received: from fortune-rwcmta.excite.com (HELO fortune.excite.com) (198.3.99.203) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 17:58:39 -0000 Received: from goochy.excite.com ([199.172.152.233]) by fortune.excite.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.39 201-229-119-122) with ESMTP id <20000428175839.BFFJ27089.fortune.excite.com@goochy.excite.com> for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:58:39 -0700 Message-ID: <9140727.956944719140.JavaMail.imail@goochy.excite.com> To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: Excite Inbox X-Sender-Ip: 193.113.185.135 From: Mark Butler MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:58:39 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:23:51 +1100, just-amiga@egroups.com wrote: > > A few weeks ago, someone mentioned that modern HD's shouldn't > > be formatted with a Directory Cache. I have a 1.2GB Toshiba > > MK2720FC, which I DID format (in 4 partitions) with Cache ON. > > > > The only thing I have noticed of concern, is that numerous > > small files take a very long time to read or delete. > > > > Could this be caused by the Directory Cache setting ON at > > formatting? > > Should I reformat with Directory Cache OFF? > > Is there a way to do this without deleting everything? > > > > Thanks in anticipation!! > > > > > Thanks everyone for the advice - I'll try reformatting using > ReOrg, and if that's no good I'll hit it with a full format. Or you could just hit it :-) -- The Hustler/Mark Butler http://thehustler.cjb.net/ mailto:thehustler_amiga@excite.com IRC Nick : thehustler on Asylumnet -- _______________________________________________________ Get 100% FREE Internet Access powered by Excite Visit http://freelane.excite.com/freeisp ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Join Garden.com's affiliate program and enjoy numerous benefits. To learn more click here: http://click.egroups.com/1/2753/2/_/490399/_/956945042/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From martin@madscientist.demon.co.uk Fri Apr 28 18:50:43 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22365 invoked by uid 504); 28 Apr 2000 20:52:15 -0000 Received: from fj.egroups.com (208.50.144.72) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 20:52:15 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3935-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2000 20:51:48 -0000 Received: (qmail 24886 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 20:51:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Apr 2000 20:51:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 20:51:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 6698 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 20:51:39 -0000 Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (194.217.242.91) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 20:51:39 -0000 Received: from madscientist.demon.co.uk ([193.237.50.20]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12lHjd-0001Cp-0X for just-amiga@egroups.com; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:51:37 +0100 Organization: Private User Message-Id: In-Reply-To: To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-Mailer: MicroDot-II/Amiga NC 1.4.4 [NC2-#000002AB] - http://www.vapor.com/ From: "Martin Nicholson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 28 Apr 2000 19:50:43 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Re: HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:23:51 +1100, Phil Collins wrote, > Thanks everyone for the advice - I'll try reformatting using > ReOrg, and if that's no good I'll hit it with a full format. There isn't a need to re-format the drive in any circumstance. In the unlikely event re-org didn't work, just open HDTools, change the filesystem settings to normal FFS (no directory caching) on each partition and then save the new RDB settings. The drive should work the same as before, with everything still in its place. It isn't the filesystem you are changing, just some options in it. 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Our huge buying group gives you Long Distance rates which fall monthly, plus an extra $60 in FREE calls! http://click.egroups.com/1/2567/2/_/490399/_/956955108/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From gpeake@texas.net Fri Apr 28 23:41:49 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31969 invoked by uid 504); 28 Apr 2000 23:38:06 -0000 Received: from ef.egroups.com (207.138.41.172) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 23:38:06 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3937-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by ef.egroups.com with NNFMP; 28 Apr 2000 23:38:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 3207 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 23:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 28 Apr 2000 23:38:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 23:38:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 31240 invoked from network); 28 Apr 2000 23:38:14 -0000 Received: from mw1.texas.net (206.127.30.11) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 28 Apr 2000 23:38:14 -0000 Received: from b1h074.dsla1n1.houston.texas.net (b1h074.dsla1n1.houston.texas.net [209.99.91.74]) by mw1.texas.net (2.4/2.4) with SMTP id SAA00684 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:38:13 -0500 (CDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Keywords: Amiga Inc. Sender: Gary.Peake@texas.net Organization: http://www.amiga.com Message-ID: <7d8kgs4ebuomeur5n34qhh8d9ep4q1mjcs@4ax.com> References: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 From: Gary Peake MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:41:49 -0500 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:08:10 +0000, Chris Seward wrote: >Hi all, > >As you know i'm not making AIO its been passed into the >capable hands of some other lucky being :) > >Now, I have no Amiga project at all, is anyone doing >anything that they might need help with? looking to >start up a project? > >Anything Web Based or Amiga based or a combination of >both i'm interested, let me know personally if you need >any help. What happened to all the posts that used to come through this list? :( -- Gary Peake Director - Support Amiga Inc. Unless otherwise stated, my posts represent my personal opinions and not those of my employer. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/956965095/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiscorp@earthlink.net Sat Apr 29 00:35:12 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 1286 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 00:35:04 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 00:35:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3938-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 00:35:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 6022 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 00:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 00:35:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 00:35:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 17485 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 00:35:10 -0000 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (207.217.121.50) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 00:35:10 -0000 Received: from earthlink.net (1Cust34.tnt3.london.ky.da.uu.net [63.31.15.34]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA11617 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 17:35:09 -0700 (PDT) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <7d8kgs4ebuomeur5n34qhh8d9ep4q1mjcs@4ax.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: "Marion E. Wyatt" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:35:12 -0400 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Sun, 23 Apr 2000 23:08:10 +0000, Chris Seward wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> As you know i'm not making AIO its been passed into the >> capable hands of some other lucky being :) >> >> Now, I have no Amiga project at all, is anyone doing >> anything that they might need help with? looking to >> start up a project? >> >> Anything Web Based or Amiga based or a combination of >> both i'm interested, let me know personally if you need >> any help. How about rallying a group of developers to port Java to the classic Amiga :-) 68k/ppc optimized? It would be a great project to start up... It seems no "one person" can get JAVA ported, but maybe a group effort would succeed and somone dedicated to getting it started and organized would go a long way. Maybe set up a CVS and get a group going :-) JAVA is a web based thing and Amiga! :-) -- Marion E Wyatt A3000 CSPPC/233+060/50 CV64/3D OS3.5 138MB 1+18.2GB ZIP100 amiscorp@earthlink.net Support commercial Only AMIGA Makes It Possible! / // / and shareware progs AMIGA * Back For The FUTURE Member __ __ / // / Dare To Dream AMIGA! of \ \\ \/ // / * A M I G A I N T E R N A T I O N A L I N C * Team AMIGA\ \\/ // / and * * A M I G A I N C * * \_/_//_/ My homepage * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp Amiga Connexion * http://home.earthlink.net/~amiscorp/AmigaConnexion.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/956968513/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From msayers@spidernet.com.cy Sat Apr 29 05:41:35 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 9179 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 05:41:38 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 05:41:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3939-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 05:41:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 17245 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 05:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 05:41:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 05:41:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 10152 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 05:41:43 -0000 Received: from picasso.spidernet.net (HELO mail0.spidernet.net) (194.154.128.2) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 05:41:43 -0000 Received: from spidernet.com.cy (lim-c53s01-l075.spidernet.net [194.154.147.203] with SMTP) by mail0.spidernet.net (ElectricMail-MESSAGE-2.0-GAMMA-SSM1.1-ANTISPAM) id IAA13505; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:41:39 +0300 (EET DST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Mark Sayers MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:41:35 +0300 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: DIY Tower Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Mick On 25-Apr-00, you wrote: > Hello Mark SNIP . Then after quite a lot of metal work, i.e. cutting port >> slots removing a couple of my new found 5=BE bays, turning the PSU >> thru 90 degrees, it all came together. >=20 > I don't suppose U kept a record did U M8 ?? Only in the bio mass storage device, (please note this device is begining to show errors) :-)=20 >>I have heard another route is to use a Midi sized PC case piggy >> backed as an additional large drive bay. (A lot less hassle) >=20 > Does this mean i'll have ribbon cabbles etc running from the back of > one case into the other, if so what U R saying is just bung a little > (midi) tower on top of my existing case just to keep the extra > drives in yes ? Damn fine idea! Yes Sometimes wish I had gone that route as I had to give up some drive bays to fit the M/board in. All the best Mark ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/956986905/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Apr 29 15:14:29 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3841 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:27 -0000 Received: from fl.egroups.com (208.50.144.74) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:27 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3940-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by fl.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 12310 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 6142 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:25 -0000 Received: from mail.franceenligne.net (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:25 -0000 Received: (qmail 3829 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.200.167) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:18 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:14:29 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Happy Birthday to meeee, Happy Birthday to meee, Happy Birthday dear myself, happy birthday to meee :) Well, incase any of you have forgot an important day of the year its my birthday on the 7th May :) so if you have any old socks, sticky back plastic or anything else I may find useful you know where to send them :) email: amiga@fdn.co.uk or chris@aio.co.uk Byeeee! Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957026186/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sat Apr 29 15:19:04 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3861 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:43 -0000 Received: from mu.egroups.com (207.138.41.151) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:43 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3941-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mu.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 17:36:37 -0000 Received: (qmail 3011 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:32 -0000 Received: (qmail 9925 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:31 -0000 Received: from mail.franceenligne.net (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 3831 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 16:36:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.200.167) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:36:19 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:19:04 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Possibily the slowest email EVER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi all! For the die-hard AIO fans you may remember in the Christmas 1998 period there where about 5 competitions in AIO. one of those was a vulcan competition, I think the question was what was Vulcans first game called or the first speech adventure, i'm not sure, anyway that was Christmas of 1998. On 28th of April 2000 I have received an entry for that competition dated: Date Sun, 20 Dec 1998 09:43:30 +0500 Subject Vulcan Compo I didn't believe it myself, i checked all the headers to see if it has been fiddled and it doesn't appear to have been. This could easily be done as a joke but i'm unsure why someone would bother. Looks like it could be an email to take the longest time ever to reach someone although i'm unsure why. Very strange. Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957026192/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Sat Apr 29 17:46:02 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 4513 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 16:56:16 -0000 Received: from mk.egroups.com (207.138.41.165) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:56:16 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3942-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by mk.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 16:56:13 -0000 Received: (qmail 23788 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 16:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 16:56:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:56:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 23229 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 16:56:11 -0000 Received: from smtp2.home.se (195.66.45.71) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 16:56:11 -0000 Received: from home.se (MrMister@cvx-sto-1-154.ppp.netlink.se [212.242.103.58]) by smtp2.home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA15216 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:56:08 +0200 (CEST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="snorslex.amiga.tm"; street="=?iso-8859-1?Q?Durkv=E4gen?= 2"; city="94533 Rosvik"; country="Sweden"; phone="+46-0911-206958"; dob=18011981 From: Lorens Johansson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:46:02 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chris... HEY! Happy birthday there Chris! > Well, incase any of you have forgot an important day of > the year its my birthday on the 7th May :) you have to tell it to anyone so they can forget it! > so if you > have any old socks, sticky back plastic or anything else > I may find useful you know where to send them :) You want my used underwear? :) /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 I never forgot my first Windows installation. But I'm still trying... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957027372/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ianurie@redhotants.com Sat Apr 29 18:33:44 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 6940 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 17:57:36 -0000 Received: from c3.egroups.com (207.138.41.143) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 17:57:36 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3943-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by c3.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 17:57:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 18709 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 17:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 17:57:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 17:57:36 -0000 Received: (qmail 29835 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 17:57:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.jakinternet.co.uk) (212.41.41.61) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 17:57:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 23765 invoked by uid 101); 29 Apr 2000 17:56:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO 195.217.161.153) (rhaa0105516@195.217.162.30) by smtp.jakinternet.co.uk with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 17:56:04 -0000 To: "Chris Seward" In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1022.154T2228T11136251ianurie@redhotants.com> X-Mailer: THOR 2.6a (Amiga;TCP/IP) From: "Ian Urie" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: 29 Apr 2000 18:33:44 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Possibily the slowest email EVER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 29-Apr-00 15:19:04, Chris Seward said about [just-amiga] Possibily the slowest email EVER?: >Hi all! >For the die-hard AIO fans you may remember in the Christmas >1998 period there where about 5 competitions in AIO. one >of those was a vulcan competition, I think the question was >what was Vulcans first game called or the first speech >adventure, i'm not sure, anyway that was Christmas of 1998. >On 28th of April 2000 I have received an entry for that >competition dated: >Date Sun, 20 Dec 1998 09:43:30 +0500 >Subject Vulcan Compo >I didn't believe it myself, i checked all the headers >to see if it has been fiddled and it doesn't appear >to have been. >This could easily be done as a joke but i'm unsure why >someone would bother. >Looks like it could be an email to take the longest >time ever to reach someone although i'm unsure why. >Very strange. Did it originate from a Freeserve address?? :)) -- Ian Urie Uin:19729444 To a cat, "NO!" means "Not while I'm looking." ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957031056/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From brotheramiga@takas.lt Sat Apr 29 19:41:39 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 10975 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 19:42:57 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 19:42:57 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3944-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 19:43:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 15097 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 19:42:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 19:42:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 19:42:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 20371 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 19:42:56 -0000 Received: from srvr3.telecom.lt (HELO mail.takas.lt) (212.59.0.2) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 19:42:56 -0000 Received: from takas.lt (guest@dialup247.vln.takas.lt [212.59.15.7]) by mail.takas.lt (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA12092 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:42:16 +0200 (GMT+0200) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; street="Taikos 49-1"; city="Vilnius"; country="Lithuania"; phone="8-22-476957"; dob=5111982 From: Vytautas MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:41:39 +0200 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Chris On 29-Apr-00, you wrote: > Hi All, > > Happy Birthday to meeee, Happy Birthday to meee, Happy > Birthday dear myself, happy birthday to meee :) Hehehe :) Where's the beer ;) ? and a party ??? Regards, Vytas -- _________ ______ /------\ ________|__ _____________ _________ \______ \ _ \ \//\\/ \ _ / | \ \ _____ _ \/ \ _ / | _ _/ _/ _/_ "" / \_/ _|_ \/ /__ __/ _/ \_ \/ | Z | | | |TTTT|7 | ___ | 7___ \ \_ / \ /_______/__\___// IIII \_____/\__|___/_____/___\___/________/ | İmlt ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957037379/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From a.paynter@zoo.co.uk Sat Apr 29 20:01:07 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 11624 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 20:01:26 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:01:26 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3945-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 20:01:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 11300 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 20:01:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 20:01:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:01:26 -0000 Received: (qmail 19786 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 20:01:25 -0000 Received: from mail.zoo.co.uk (HELO zoo4.zoo.co.uk) (194.216.59.4) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:01:25 -0000 Received: from zoo.co.uk (Harlech@d5-5.dialup.zoo.co.uk [193.192.66.5]) by zoo4.zoo.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA26098 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:01:22 +0100 (BST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: WLCC From: Alan Paynter MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:01:07 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Chris On 29-Apr-00, Chris Seward wrote: > Hi All, > > Happy Birthday to meeee, Happy Birthday to meee, Happy > Birthday dear myself, happy birthday to meee :) > Happy Birthday Chris! Happy birthday to meee too! - mine's today, and I'll bet Ive had a few more too! :)) also, Happy Burps to anyone else feeling older this week or so ;-) Regards (aka Harlech) Alan Paynter ICQ 23921198 Amiga 1260/50T.PPC 603e BVision,SVGA,12G HD,Powerflyer 56K Modem,Yamaha 400t CDR,40x CD ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957038486/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From sandy@brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 29 20:47:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22890 invoked by uid 504); 1 May 2000 17:06:23 -0000 Received: from fg.egroups.com (208.50.144.70) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 17:06:23 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3970-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by fg.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2000 17:05:29 -0000 Received: (qmail 8238 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 17:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 May 2000 17:05:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 17:05:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 211 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 17:05:26 -0000 Received: from mail6.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.212) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 1 May 2000 17:05:26 -0000 Received: from modem-23.wolfram.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.56.151] helo=brownlee99.freeserve.co.uk) by mail6.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12mJdM-0004RU-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 01 May 2000 18:05:25 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Sandy Brownlee MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:47:01 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Now showing at a cinema near you: "[just-amiga] Happy Birthday to me :)," starring Chris Seward... On 29-Apr-00, you wrote: > Happy Birthday to meeee, Happy Birthday to meee, Happy > Birthday dear myself, happy birthday to meee :) Happy birthday! If you don't mind my asking, how old does that make you then? (I'm 17 btw) Sooner, Sandy -- Sandy Brownlee, connected from rural Aberdeenshire in Scotland OS3.5 & PPC Powered! 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From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:51:42 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Web-based project needs EXPERIENCED html coder. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, This is off-topic so its not Amiga related. I am planning a big big BIG project which is web based and nothing really to do with the Amiga, except I suppose the fact that I will be running it in main from an Amiga. I am looking for a VERY experienced HTML coder with knowledge of cgi etc scripts, tables, forms, all the fancy bells and whistles. I don't want to say too much about the actual project so if your someone who is truely great at HTML then get in touch, chris@aio.co.uk Toodle Pip! -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957040784/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 29 21:02:38 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13352 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 20:43:46 -0000 Received: from fh.egroups.com (208.50.144.71) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:46 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3947-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by fh.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 16890 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 20:43:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:46 -0000 Received: (qmail 20557 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 20:43:46 -0000 Received: from mail11.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.23) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:46 -0000 Received: from modem-244.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.31.244] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail11.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12le5X-0003KH-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:43:44 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 29 Apr 0 21:43:39 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.zinc.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 29 Apr 0 21:42:51 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390BABBA.FB72@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <7d8kgs4ebuomeur5n34qhh8d9ep4q1mjcs@4ax.com> X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:02:38 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Friday April 28 2000, Gary Peake said to Chris Seward: >> Anything Web Based or Amiga based or a combination of >> both i'm interested, let me know personally if you need >> any help. GP> What happened to all the posts that used to come through this list? Complain bitterly to EGroups for not informing ANYONE that they were going to start sending OneList lists from an EGroups address. I lost quite a few messages due to it. Do they think nobody has security systems? :( .--------------------------------------------------------------------------. | Sun | Mon | Tue | Wed | Thu | Fri | Today | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | TKG_ML_JUSTAMIGA Just Amiga (mailing list) [ 1433] Msg | | Total message imported: 234 - Total bytes this week: 128562 | | | |Items 12 | 4 | 7 | 0 | 5 | 9 | 0 | |Bytes 41093 | 14608 | 23446 | 0 | 18448 | 30967 | 0 | -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957041026/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sat Apr 29 21:07:09 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13363 invoked by uid 504); 29 Apr 2000 20:44:02 -0000 Received: from ch.egroups.com (207.138.41.144) by mail.franceenligne.net with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:44:02 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3948-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by ch.egroups.com with NNFMP; 29 Apr 2000 20:44:00 -0000 Received: (qmail 28291 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 20:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:58 -0000 Received: (qmail 14120 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2000 20:43:57 -0000 Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.19) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 20:43:57 -0000 Received: from modem-244.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.31.244] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12le5j-0007Wg-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:43:55 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.germanium.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 29 Apr 0 21:43:48 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.zinc.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sat, 29 Apr 0 21:42:53 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390BABBB.FB73@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 21:07:09 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Bored without a project! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Friday April 28 2000, Marion E. Wyatt said to Gary Peake: MEW> How about rallying a group of developers to port Java to the classic MEW> Amiga MEW> :-) 68k/ppc optimized? It would be a great project to start up... It I've been considering this, I may have a CVS server I could 'procure'... Apart from AmigaOS needing a better Java implementation than Kaffe, there's also MorphOS and AROS to think about - both of which will good Java support. I don't think the right word would be 'port' - considering everything, we'd probably be looking at implementing Java from the specifications. I did ask Holger Kruse about Daytona, but I think whatever existed of that has gone to byte hell. A lot of work? Yeah, but I'll do anything to get away from the Windows/Linux implementations :) -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957041038/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From dlbenson@psnw.com Sat Apr 29 21:35:34 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 22652 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 03:27:28 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 03:27:28 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3950-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 03:26:47 -0000 Received: (qmail 21320 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 03:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 03:26:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sierra.psnw.com) (205.199.144.107) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 03:26:41 -0000 Received: from dlbensonpsnw (ct3-165.psnw.com [206.43.248.165]) by sierra.psnw.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA12364 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 20:26:40 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <000c01bfb253$f5d0e140$a5f82bce@com> To: "just-amiga" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 From: "Don & Lynn Benson" MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 14:35:34 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Sign-Off Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi everyone, Just wanted to let you know that I will be off-line for the summer. I will be in the process of moving and selling some of my father's property. There is very poor Net access where I am going and it is much too expensive for me to do much on the Net. I am also forced to sell my Amiga so I can get things going with my father's property. So I hope things keep progressing along so that when I am able to be back on-line you will all be well and as witty as ever. My actual sign off will be next week sometime. Take care. -----Don ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957065203/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sun Apr 30 01:14:29 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3992 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 12:51:04 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:51:04 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3956-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:16 -0000 Received: (qmail 22759 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 12:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 8551 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 12:50:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 3919 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 12:48:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.200.167) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:48:34 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:14:29 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Alan, On 29-Apr-00, you wrote: > Happy Birthday Chris! > Happy birthday to meee too! - mine's today, and I'll bet Ive had a few more > too! :)) > also, Happy Burps to anyone else feeling older this week or so ;-) Thanks and Happy Birthday back (for yesterday) i'm quite sure you've had plenty more than me :) shhh! Regards -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957099016/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Sun Apr 30 01:15:01 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 20035 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 00:24:00 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 00:24:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3949-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 00:23:21 -0000 Received: (qmail 10873 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 00:23:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 00:23:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 00:23:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 20641 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 00:23:20 -0000 Received: from smtp2.home.se (195.66.45.71) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 00:23:20 -0000 Received: from home.se (MrMister@cvx-sto-1-106.ppp.netlink.se [212.242.103.10]) by smtp2.home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id CAA06866 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:23:15 +0200 (CEST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="snorslex.amiga.tm"; street="=?iso-8859-1?Q?Durkv=E4gen?= 2"; city="94533 Rosvik"; country="Sweden"; phone="+46-0911-206958"; dob=18011981 From: Lorens Johansson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 02:15:01 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] I am the master!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi... today i wanted to add a fan in my tower, when i started the comp with fan inside i accidentally put my hand in it, and then pulled it away fast, that i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with a metall thingie that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and got 4 stiches :) am i the master or what? (sorry for all lower, typing with one hand) /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 WinErr a23: Program too small: Padding..... ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957054201/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From amiga@fdn.co.uk Sun Apr 30 01:16:37 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3981 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 12:50:54 -0000 Received: from ej.egroups.com (208.50.144.75) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:54 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3955-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by ej.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:10 -0000 Received: (qmail 22570 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 12:50:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 8509 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 12:50:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fdn.co.uk) (195.34.192.6) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:50:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 3922 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 12:48:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO thefree.net) (AIOeditor@195.34.200.167) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:48:36 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <1022.154T2228T11136251ianurie@redhotants.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 Preview5 - Amiga Mailer by Marcel Beck - http://www.yam.ch Organization: The Attack Of The Killer Egg Suckers! From: Chris Seward MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:16:37 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Possibily the slowest email EVER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ian, On 29-Apr-00, you wrote: > Did it originate from a Freeserve address?? :)) It didn't actually, it was from outside the UK, no mention of any freeserve mail servers etc. Why, if it had of been what difference would it of made :)? The actualy host was.... "acadia.net" Plus what the hell is this redhotants.com thingymabob? Regards -- Chris Seward *Email* : chris@aio.co.uk - *ICQ* : 41724074 *Phone* : 0777 307 7256 - *Ph Int'l* : +44 777 307 7256 *Just-Amiga ML* : http://www.onelist.com/subscribe.cgi/just-amiga Support *AIO* @ http://www.aio.co.uk ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957099010/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From hugo@inbbs.fsnet.co.uk Sun Apr 30 06:58:49 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 25286 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 06:01:50 -0000 Received: from hm.egroups.com (208.50.144.92) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 06:01:50 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3951-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hm.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 06:01:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 5966 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 06:01:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 06:01:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 06:01:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 11163 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 06:01:08 -0000 Received: from cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.195.175) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 06:01:08 -0000 Received: from modem-199.new-hampshire.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.137.80.199] helo=inbbs) by cmailg5.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12lmmw-0005rX-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 07:01:06 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Hugo Wilkinson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 06:58:49 +0000 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: I am the master!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Lorens > today i wanted to add a fan in my tower, when i started the comp with fan > inside i accidentally put my hand in it, and then pulled it away fast, > that i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with a metall > thingie that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and got 4 stiches > :) > > am i the master or what? welcome to the "Doh! - Fuc*ing sharp metally thing!" Club.. hugo. -- I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957074468/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From drstrange@jps.net Sun Apr 30 08:14:44 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 28049 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 08:17:20 -0000 Received: from mw.egroups.com (207.138.41.167) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 08:17:20 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3952-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.38] by mw.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 08:16:38 -0000 Received: (qmail 22770 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 08:16:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m4.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 08:16:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qg.egroups.com) (10.1.2.27) by mta1 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 08:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 16787 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 08:16:31 -0000 Received: from smtp-out001.onemain.com (HELO mail003.mail.onemain.com) (63.208.208.71) by qg.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 08:16:31 -0000 Received: (qmail 20818 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 08:16:28 -0000 Received: from 209-239-213-125.lax.jps.net (HELO jps.net) ([209.239.213.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail003.mail.onemain.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Apr 2000 08:16:28 -0000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch Organization: Mark Tierno From: Mark Tierno MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:14:44 -0700 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: Happy Birthday to me :) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy Chris On 29-Apr-00, Chris Seward wrote: > Hi All, > > Happy Birthday to meeee, Happy Birthday to meee, Happy > Birthday dear myself, happy birthday to meee :) > > Well, incase any of you have forgot an important day of > the year its my birthday on the 7th May :) so if you > have any old socks, sticky back plastic or anything else > I may find useful you know where to send them :) I can give you a few old hopes I'm not using anymore. -Later -- I think that God in creating man somewhat overestimated his ability. -- Oscar Wilde ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957082598/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From philbert@cyberone.com.au Sun Apr 30 09:32:36 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 31980 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 10:34:00 -0000 Received: from fi.egroups.com (207.138.41.182) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 10:34:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3953-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by fi.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 10:33:17 -0000 Received: (qmail 26742 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 10:33:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 10:33:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 10:33:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 6861 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 10:33:12 -0000 Received: from jake.canberra.net.au (HELO smtp.canberra.net.au) (203.29.91.119) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 10:33:12 -0000 Received: from cyberone.com.au (dialup63.sydney.net.au [202.61.208.3]) by smtp.canberra.net.au (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id UAA16348 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:33:08 +1000 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <956994912.26033@egroups.com> X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [040] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: Phil Collins MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 20:32:36 +1100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: HD Cache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > On Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:23:51 +1100, Phil Collins wrote, > >> Thanks everyone for the advice - I'll try reformatting using >> ReOrg, and if that's no good I'll hit it with a full format. > > There isn't a need to re-format the drive in any circumstance. > In the unlikely event re-org didn't work, just open HDTools, > change the filesystem settings to normal FFS (no directory > caching) on each partition and then save the new RDB settings. > The drive should work the same as before, with everything still > in its place. It isn't the filesystem you are changing, just > some options in it. > > Worzel > Another much appreciated tip (amongst others), thanks! Phil Collins Sydney, Australia. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957090797/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From SnorsleX@Home.se Sun Apr 30 13:21:08 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 3278 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 12:29:53 -0000 Received: from hj.egroups.com (208.50.144.90) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:29:53 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3954-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 12:29:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 20837 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 12:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 12:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:29:05 -0000 Received: (qmail 32319 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 12:29:05 -0000 Received: from smtp2.home.se (195.66.45.71) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 12:29:05 -0000 Received: from home.se (MrMister@[212.242.109.1]) by smtp2.home.se (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA22756 for ; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:29:00 +0200 (CEST) To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [060] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch X-SenderInfo: 1; homepage="snorslex.amiga.tm"; street="=?iso-8859-1?Q?Durkv=E4gen?= 2"; city="94533 Rosvik"; country="Sweden"; phone="+46-0911-206958"; dob=18011981 From: Lorens Johansson MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:21:08 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: I am the master!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Hugo... >> am i the master or what? > > welcome to the "Doh! - Fuc*ing sharp metally thing!" Club.. hahahah, thanks... and this wasnt the first time either... okay, useda knife before, not a tower :) /Lorens -- Please have a look at my own Amiga programs at: http://snorslex.amiga.tm ICQ UIN: 12464032 WinErr 00C: Memory hog error. More RAM needed. More! More! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Accurate impartial advice on everything from laptops to table saws. http://click.egroups.com/1/3020/2/_/490399/_/957097748/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From rogerbu@callnetuk.com Sun Apr 30 13:26:17 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 13317 invoked by uid 504); 30 Apr 2000 17:42:00 -0000 Received: from mr.egroups.com (207.138.41.139) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 17:42:00 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3957-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.37] by mr.egroups.com with NNFMP; 30 Apr 2000 17:41:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 4825 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 17:41:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.27) by m3.onelist.org with QMQP; 30 Apr 2000 17:41:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO qh.egroups.com) (10.1.2.28) by mta2 with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 17:41:08 -0000 Received: (qmail 18333 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2000 17:41:07 -0000 Received: from smtp.callnetuk.com (212.67.128.5) by qh.egroups.com with SMTP; 30 Apr 2000 17:41:07 -0000 Received: from callnetuk.com [212.67.129.158] by smtp.callnetuk.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A02D4900294; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:41:01 +0100 To: just-amiga@egroups.com Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: YAM 2.0 [020] AmigaOS E-Mail Client (c) 1995-1999 by Marcel Beck http://www.yam.ch From: roger buckley MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 14:26:17 +0100 Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: [just-amiga] Re: I am the master!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Lorens On 30-Apr-00, you wrote: > Hi... > > today i wanted to add a fan in my tower, when i started the comp with fan > inside i accidentally put my hand in it, and then pulled it away fast, that > i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with a metall thingie > that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and got 4 stiches :) > > am i the master or what? > everyone must make the blood sacrifice when messing about with the miggy's internal workings. Regards -- Roger Amiga 1200, Viper 68030 Mk V Accel with 50Mhz FPU and 8 MBFast, Seagate 410MB 2.5" internal HD and 800MB SCSI HD in a midi tower with 4xCDRom. 56k Modem, Power Port Junr Serial IF G.Image Hand Scanner & Citizen Swift Printer. Website:-http://www.callnetuk.com/home/rogerbu ICQ-62990780 Robuck2 Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 'user-friendly'.... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover. -- Bill Gates ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Was the salesman clueless? Productopia has the answers. http://click.egroups.com/1/3019/2/_/490399/_/957116469/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 30 18:23:34 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8540 invoked by uid 504); 1 May 2000 10:13:19 -0000 Received: from c9.egroups.com (207.138.41.187) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 10:13:19 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3966-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.35] by c9.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2000 10:12:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 8819 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 10:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m1.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 May 2000 10:12:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 10:12:27 -0000 Received: (qmail 31538 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 10:12:26 -0000 Received: from mail4.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.211) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 1 May 2000 10:12:26 -0000 Received: from modem-43.biaxin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.82.171] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail4.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12mDBg-0007gO-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 01 May 2000 11:12:25 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.biaxin.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 1 May 0 11:12:15 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sun, 30 Apr 0 22:44:41 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390D0BB8.FC5B@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:23:34 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] I am the master!!!! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On Sunday April 30 2000, Lorens Johansson said to All: LJ> today i wanted to add a fan in my tower, when i started the comp with LJ> fan inside i accidentally put my hand in it, and then pulled it away LJ> fast, that i should *not* have done... i pulled my finger along with a LJ> metall thingie that was sharp as hell, cut my finger an inch, and got 4 LJ> stiches :) I have suffered with cheap cases too.. never more than a scratch though. LJ> am i the master or what? I hereby appoint you to be a master of the finger slicing guild. Welcome. -- Neil Williams, Euroland. mailto:neil@aio.co.uk ICQ:18223711 2:442/107 AIO: http://www.aio.co.uk TKG: http://www.tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Zeus Developments, BBS s/w: http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/zeus/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Why buy CDs? Now you can swap for them. 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Sound good? http://click.egroups.com/1/3717/2/_/490399/_/957175947/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ AIO website @ http://www.aio.co.uk From ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk Sun Apr 30 18:27:04 1900 Return-Path: Delivered-To: amiga@fdn.co.uk Received: (qmail 8566 invoked by uid 504); 1 May 2000 10:13:38 -0000 Received: from cj.egroups.com (208.50.144.68) by 195.34.192.6 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 10:13:38 -0000 X-eGroups-Return: sentto-17832-3967-amiga=fdn.co.uk@returns.onelist.com Received: from [10.1.10.36] by cj.egroups.com with NNFMP; 01 May 2000 10:12:45 -0000 Received: (qmail 21900 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 10:12:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (10.1.10.142) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 1 May 2000 10:12:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO q8.egroups.com) (10.1.2.31) by mta3 with SMTP; 1 May 2000 10:12:44 -0000 Received: (qmail 31680 invoked from network); 1 May 2000 10:12:44 -0000 Received: from mail2.svr.pol.co.uk (195.92.193.210) by mx3.egroups.com with SMTP; 1 May 2000 10:12:44 -0000 Received: from modem-43.biaxin.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.82.171] helo=tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk) by mail2.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 12mDBy-00052c-00 for just-amiga@egroups.com; Mon, 01 May 2000 11:12:43 +0100 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.biaxin.dialup.pol.co.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Mon, 1 May 0 11:12:35 Received: by tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk.uk (Amiga SMTPpost 1.04 December 9, 1994) id AA01; Sun, 30 Apr 0 22:44:42 Organization: Zeus Developments http://www.bleach.demon.co.uk/ Message-Id: <390D0BB9.FC5C@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk> In-Reply-To: X-MailReader: Zeus BBS v1.3 #3E9 To: just-amiga@egroups.com X-eGroups-From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk (Neil Williams) From: ja-list@tkgbbs.freeserve.co.uk MIME-Version: 1.0 Mailing-List: list just-amiga@egroups.com; contact just-amiga-owner@egroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list just-amiga@egroups.com Precedence: bulk List-Unsubscribe: Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 18:27:04 GMT Reply-To: just-amiga@egroups.com Subject: Re: [just-amiga] Possibily the slowest email EVER? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Sunday April 30 2000, Chris Seward said to Ian Urie: >> Did it originate from a Freeserve address?? :)) CS> It didn't actually, it was from outside the UK, no mention of any CS> freeserve mail servers etc. CS> Why, if it had of been what difference would it of made :)? Freeserve at one time had a habit of not doing the mail thang. CS> Plus what the hell is this redhotants.com thingymabob? Why not go and see? It's £20 a year for 0800 internet access, from the Free4All people. I have yet to hear a bad word said about them. 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If you are > trying to send anonymous mail, please send a message with subject > "remailer-help" to for more information. > > Problems or inappropriate use of the service should be reported to > the administrator at . > > -- remailer@dizum.com > I am new to Internet and receive messages 'you are about to submit data in an insecure way' - ok for now but some sites require encryption as condition of use, so I have experimented by sending emails to myself using: (1st): 'encryption' Security option on my mailer - resulted in my internet access prog jamming up so had to shut down and reload. (2nd): 'anonymous' Security option. then realised it had sent it to 'remailer'. What I expected to happen was I would receive the email without a sender address. Obviously not the case - trying to see why. I am using: Amiga 1200 computer, 68030/40 CPU accel. (not sure whether FPU present), IBM DALA 540Mb HD, USRobotics 'Courier' modem (V34fax with V32bis). 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