========================================================================= INFO-ATARI16 Digest Fri, 11 May 90 Volume 90 : Issue 530 Today's Topics: German TOS 1.4 How do I create metafiles? Where is Tim Oren's complete series? st hardware for sale Still trying to get Omti MFM, ICD interface and Seagate 4038 working Unix Window's Kermit (2 msgs) Unix Windows (2 msgs) Virtex and TFM's What is wrong with Terminator's directory?? ZOO ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: 10 May 90 15:51:47 GMT From: nprdc!eiselt@ucsd.edu (Wolfgang Eiselt) Subject: German TOS 1.4 Message-ID: <7376@arctic.nprdc.arpa> Hi german netters, ich brauche hier in San Diego, CA. dringend die deutsche Version von TOS 1.4. Kann mir irgendeiner mit einer deutschen Versandadresse weiterhelfen, wo ich die ROMs mit Einbauanleitung bestellen kann. Da ich noch ein Bankkonto in Deutschland habe, ist die Bezahlung kein Problem Wolfgang (eiselt@nprdc.arpa) NPRDC San Diego, CA. 92152-6800 Tel: 619-553-7603 _____________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 05:42:10 GMT From: helios.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!mailrus!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!utgpu! utzoo!attcan!lsuc!maccs!johns@ucsd.edu (Conan the Barbarian) Subject: How do I create metafiles? Where is Tim Oren's complete series? Message-ID: <2648FF33.3380@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> Greetings fellow netlanders. I have 2 questions tonight: 1. I want to know how to create metafiles that could be printed out with programs like OUTPRINT.PRG. I'm a bit at a loss here and I would greatly appreciate some help. Some sample source in Personal Pascal or C would do nicely, if available. Does GDOS have to be loaded in order to do this? Are there bindings for functions like vm_pagesize() etc or do I have to make them up myself? What has to be put into the intin[] and ptsin[] arrays? Are work stations possible on the ST or do I have to stay with virtual workstations? Is that the way it is done? These are some of the questions I have been asking myself. 2. Tim Oren wrote a series of articles on GEM programming on the ST. I saw the list on a BBS that has since lost their files and I cannot get at the series any longer. There were around 18-20 articles. However, I can only find the first 11 on the ftp sites that I looked at. Where are the rest of them? Do that many actually exist or is it just something I'm dreaming about? If there is any interest and if I can put something together that actually works, I'll post some sample source here. Thanks for any help. -- John Schmitt johns@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca ...!unet!utai!utgpu!maccs!johns ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 12:45:32 GMT From: fjcp60!winston@uunet.uu.net (Winston M. Llamas) Subject: st hardware for sale Message-ID: <270@fjcp60.GOV> For Sale (cartridges for the ST): Spectre 128 cartridge (roms included) Discovery cartridge (option 0) Both for $250.00 Leave email if interested. Winston M. Llamas ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 20:40:22 GMT From: shlump.nac.dec.com!engage.enet.dec.com!oldtmr.enet.dec.com!wallace@decuac.dec.c om (Ray Wallace) Subject: Still trying to get Omti MFM, ICD interface and Seagate 4038 working Message-ID: <1728@engage.enet.dec.com> In article <1990May6.121900.17507@cs.wayne.edu>, pbh@pandora.cs.wayne.edu (Patrick B. Haggood) writes... >I purchased a 30M hard drive a while ago, and it formats fine, partitions >fine, but when using ICD's hdutil.prg, the program reports that it cannot >find a partion that can support autobooting. I set up all the partitions Is it the only HD you have connected to your system? If have more than one HD connected the try disconnecting all of the drives except the one you are trying to get working. I ran into similiar trouble one time with multiple drives (actualy multiple controlers/drives), it's been a while so I don't remember the details but I think it had to do with one drive being formated with old ICD software and the other (the one I was trying to set as bootable) formatted with the newer ICD software (V4.xxx). --- Ray Wallace (INTERNET,UUCP) wallace@oldtmr.enet.dec.com (UUCP) ...!decwrl!oldtmr.enet!wallace (INTERNET) wallace%oldtmr.enet@decwrl.dec.com --- ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 20:04:37 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali!attila.cs.montan a.edu!icsu8053@ucsd.edu (Craig Pratt) Subject: Unix Window's Kermit Message-ID: <1763@dali> In article <1761@dali> icsu8053@caesar.cs.montana.edu (Craig Pratt) writes: >----------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Has anyone gotten the Kermit file transfer to work inside a Unix window? >It works fine when the uw server is NOT running but Kermit "croaks" (sorry) >after the uw server is started. Well, I figured this out and, instead of killing the article I figured I should inform the world about this "totally cool" setup. To be short, the trick was to get the new version (4.2) of the Unix Windows server as well. Result: I am, right now, downloading and typing this message pseudo- simultaneously. I HIGHLY recommend this setup! Get it. Use it. It's awesome. I'm sorry if this isn't news to everyone, but it must be to some. The newest version of Unix Windows allows you too execute a child program such as a CLI as well. Unfortunately, downloading does stop when you do this. The slowdown isn't as bad as I thought when downloading either. Thanks go out to Hans-Martin Mosner, Brad Bosch and Brian Katzung for their excellent adaptation. Craig -- / Craig Pratt / Montana State University, Bozeman MT/ / Craig.Pratt@msu3.oscs.montana.edu / " Practically odor-free! " / / / "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan, 1988 Republican Convention / ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 18:40:45 GMT From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!dali!icsu8053@ucsd.ed u (Craig Pratt) Subject: Unix Window's Kermit Message-ID: <1761@dali> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Has anyone gotten the Kermit file transfer to work inside a Unix window? It works fine when the uw server is NOT running but Kermit "croaks" (sorry) after the uw server is started. I issue the Send or Recieve command from C-Kermit on the Unix side and then the appropriate Kermit command from Unix windows. Then, nothing happens with the exception of an occasional timeout message. Has anyone gotten this to work? This Kermit option excites me. Right now, though, it's pretty boring. I assume that this is the newest version of Unixwind. I just got it from Terminator today. Please, ANY and ALL help is appreciated! Craig -- / Craig Pratt / Montana State University, Bozeman MT/ / Craig.Pratt@msu3.oscs.montana.edu / " Practically odor-free! " / / / "Facts are stupid things." - Ronald Reagan, 1988 Republican Convention / ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 23:43:19 GMT From: mg40+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Jeffrey Garland) Subject: Unix Windows Message-ID: I've heard a lot about uw, and it sounds really interesting. However, the only version I've seen said it only worked in monochrome. Is there, by any chance, a version that runs in color too? I would really appreciate it if I could find such a thing. Thanks, Michael Garland mg40+@andrew.cmu.edu ------------------------------ Date: 11 May 90 04:38:04 GMT From: mcdchg!laidbak!katzung@rutgers.edu (Brian Katzung) Subject: Unix Windows Message-ID: <1990May11.043804.29849@i88.isc.com> In article <2990@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jdb9608@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.D. Beutel) writes: |I don't think `uw` is possible without job control. Uw is possible without job control, but it does require pseudo-ttys. I ported the BSD host version to a System V system that has the Wollongong TCP/IP package. There are some work-arounds for Wollongong implementation details that make it somewhat painful to use (a port watcher/reader process which doubles the input overhead and no XON/XOFF support). XON/XOFF support could be approximated with a trade-off between correctness and overhead, but I have not done this. I am not in a position to distribute code, but if there is interest, send me mail and I will describe briefly what changes are required. -- Brian Katzung katzung@i88.isc.com ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 11:09:42 GMT From: clubok@husc4.harvard.edu (Ken "The Snake" Clubok) Subject: Virtex and TFM's Message-ID: <2886@husc6.harvard.edu> Does anybody know in which directory I need to put the TFM files for Bammi's Virtex? Whenever I try to load fonts, it tells me that it can't find them, even when I include a pathname. If the default is on F: partition, then I'm out of luck, since I only have partitions through E:. Also, I don't have enough memory to call virtex from a shell, so I can't change the path through environment variables. I have no problem with going into the .ttp file and changing the default pathname with a sector editor, but I haven't had any luck finding the place to change. If anybody has any useful suggestions, I will be eternally grateful. BTW, Thanks to Bammi for this *incredibly* useful program. Now that I have the new showdvi.prg that will work in color, I can really have fun! Ken Clubok clubok@husc4.bitnet clubok@husc4.harvard.edu ------------------------------ Date: 10 May 90 14:26:15 GMT From: hpl-opus!hpnmdla!hpsad!randyh@hplabs.hp.com (Randy Hosler) Subject: What is wrong with Terminator's directory?? Message-ID: <750062@hpsad.HP.COM> Yes, I've had this problem. The read bit is not set for others. I just noticed this about a week ago. My ST was busted for a month prior to that so I don't know when the change occured for sure. I always checked the dates on the atari/new directory also to see if there was anything "new" to get. Kind of a bummer that I can't read it now. Could the people who run terminator fix this? ----- Randy ------------------------------ Date: 11 May 90 06:39:39 GMT From: mcsun!unido!laura!heike!klute@uunet.uu.net (Rainer Klute) Subject: ZOO Message-ID: <2152@laura.UUCP> In article <1990May11.021357.6418@lth.se>, qralph@dna.lth.se (Ralph Haglund) writes: |>Just a simple question. Packing up with subdirectories I use -x//, right. |>That works, but how do I PACK the stuff with subdirectories in the first |>place??? First, you will use "x//" instead of "-x//". Second, to pack a whole directory tree into a .ZOO file you have to type "a//". The original Zoo does not have this but Daan Jitta put it in for the ST version. Dipl.-Inform. Rainer Klute klute@heike.informatik.uni-dortmund.de Univ. Dortmund, IRB klute@unido.uucp, klute@unido.bitnet Postfach 500500 |)|/ ...uunet!mcvax!unido!klute D-4600 Dortmund 50 |\|\ Tel.: +49 231 755-4663 ------------------------------ End of INFO-ATARI16 Digest V90 Issue #530 *****************************************