WEST OF SCOTLAND ATARI USER GROUP (Affiliated to The Association of Atari User groups) Issue number FIVE, June 1996 IN THIS MONTHS ISSUE.... New WWW Page The WeST of Scotland Atari User Group now has its very own WWW pages thanks to former Atarian Bob Paton. Bob has contributed the WWW space as well as the design in these pages which will be constantly updated. Full details are in the first of an occasional series of articles by Bob. ED's JUKEBOX Takes a break this month due to the page count, and the fact that Ed had done an article for the last 3 months straight. Don't worry, he'll be back next month. ATARI News Some news about the Medusa and Hades machines. And the return of Gribnif SPECTRE An article on the Spectre GCR Mac emulator. I have to be honest at this point and apologise to the author, because I can't remember who asked me about this, and the disk I received it on had nothing to identify who it was from. I'll credit you in the next issue if you make yourself known to me again. FEEDBACK I would be interested to hear from all members about their thoughts on the changing Format of the newsletter. To be honest I am experimenting a little with the layout, so please get back to me with your thoughts. The WSAUG MPVGC (est 1996) Well should we ? Read the piece and let me know what you think of the idea. TOS User Group News of another Scottish User Group by Paul Walsh Portfolio User Group There is also a piece on an Atar Portfolio owners club by Paul Finch ATARI WORLD There is still no news about the future of the magazine. I think by now that it would be reasonably safe to assume that the mag is now dead. There was some talk of a rescue package, and a sort of readers buyout, but there has been no word for weeks now. If there any word then you'll here it as soon as I do. LOGO COMPETITION We now have a logo that Bob Paton has produced for use on the WeST of Scotland Atari User Group WWW page. It is in full colour and the word ATARI is in the same colours as on the Falcon Badge. Do you think you can do any better ? Do you like the new style logo on the front cover ? Do you think there should be a different logo every month ? Why not submit your designs and ideas. (Remember to put your name somewhere). As a prize I have a boxed copy of the game CAESAR to the best design or idea. Result will be announced err, later [g]. I'm also looking for other suitable clipart pictures for use in either the WWW page or to illustrate the newsletter. I have also just ordered a CD-ROM full of clipart, so with luck we'll have lots on the future. I might even do a review of it for the next newsletter.See you all on the 11th June Al Goold WSAUG goes Online As of Sunday 19th May 1996 the WSAUG went online at the following url :- http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/magicka/ I apologise to all of the experts out there as the pages are pretty basic but I am in the process of learning HTML and the pages will hopefully progress with me as my own knowledge increases. But what I would like is for those who do go online to contact me via email through the pages, or at any of the club nights and to supply the details of their favourite sites . I will try and compile a members top 5 ( or even top 10 if there's enough response ) . Bobs Internet thingy "What is the Internet ?" - The history lesson . Basically there is no real answer to this as the "internet" or as it has been labelled "The Information Superhighway" is not any one thing . The Internet can be thought of as a physical collection of routers and circuits, as a set of shared resources, or even as an attitude about the interconnecting and intercommunication between computers and their users . Lost you yet ? If you ever figure out what that lot meant, please let me know. Today's Internet is a global resource connecting millions of users that began as an experiment over 30 years ago by , amongst others , the U.S. Military and various educational establishments in the UK and the US . Although the prime force behind it all was the military who were looking for a means of maintaining contact should there have been a nuclear war. Eternal optimists that they were, however what they came up with was a series of computers linked into the national phone lines with the freedom to choose whatever route the machines considered most effective themselves World Wide Web For a start the WWW (or web) is NOT the internet merely a part of the whole system although given the amount of hype in the press and television about the so called "information superhighway" and the constant confusion in the media who often refer to the web when they are in actual fact referring to another part of the net ..... the mistake is a common one . Basically the world wide web ..... { referred to as "the web" or "www" } is the public face of the net , the pretty graphics face . Many businesses now see the advantage of maintaining a presence on the web or of sponsoring well established and busy web sites Q But surely the web is only for PC's and Macs A Wrong ........ With Cab and Stik the Atari computers are equally capable of browsing the web Q What else do I need ? A The basics are :- 1) Computer ( seems a little obvious but I have been asked by a non computer owning friend how to link his phone to the web) 2) Phone 3) Modem The MINIMUM I would recommend is a 14,400 or V34bis modem . Unfortunately to really take advantage of the faster 28,800 modems some of the Atari machines require an addition to the serial socket on the back . But for some fun watch the confusion in the sales assistants faces in the likes of Dixons when you tell them you want to connect it to an Atari . 4) Comms software ...... Stik and CAB 5) A service provider .... This is a company which provides the links which allow you to access the internet. When selecting a service provider there are a few things you should bear in mind :- a) Cost ...... costs do vary from one company to another b) local pop (point of presence) .... or in other words a local phone number which your modem connects to....... a MUST c) Time allocated before charges , some providers give 5 ,some up to 10 hours, so called free use per month of the account before they start charging you above the minimum charge quoted in (a) above . Always check the small print 6) Although not strictly necessary , a valid passport is always handy when that first telephone bill arrives :-) What's in it for you ? A very difficult question to answer as everyone takes something different from their online experiences. The easiest way to give a comparison is to ask someone who enjoys reading but who has been limited to a small number of books what free access to a whole library would mean to them . The internet is that big and it certainly brings home the idea of a global village . A recent scavenge for information had me jumping from The University of Lancaster to The University of New South Wales in Australia . I certainly got everything I was looking for on that occasion and paid brief visits to a number of sites I intend to return to . One problem which has been highlighted, particularly by the media is the availablity of pornographic material . It would be stupid to deny its existence but access is not as freely available as is made out and may need some supervision of kids . In the PC world some of the bigger providers have tried censoring some of the material available , Compuserve did this in Germany and met with a worldwide outcry. One of the other big online services AOL which recently started up in Britain thought they had a better answer and provided a sort of Online Nanny service which refused to allow access to any areas which contained the more colourful phrases used in Anglo Saxon English . Unfortunately this appears to have lead to problems for anyone living in Scunthorpe trying to log on . Bob Paton rpaton@cix.compulink.co.uk 100444.303@compuserve.com ATARI NEWS MEDUSA & HADES TOAD COMPUTERS ANNOUNCES NORTH AMERICAN RELEASE OF HADES AND MEDUSA!! ----------------------------------------------------------------- This is basically a slight reworking of a press release from Toad, so WSAUG takes no responsibility for the accuracy of the description. Medusa Computer Systems of Switzerland was one of the first companies to produce an Atari "Clone." Their Medusa-T40 was the first Atari-compatible computer to use a Motorola 68040 processor. The new Medusa T-60 and Hades computers are the first Atari-compatible computers to use the new Motorola 68060 processors. Toad Computers is the official North American distributor for the Hades and Medusa. Packed with features and faster than any other Atari machine out there, the Hades and Medusa are a dream for hackers and hobbyists -- and for anyone who wants to take advantage of some serious processing speed! ====================================== :: HADES: It's hellishly fast! ====================================== Hades is packed with standard features, including: MOTHERBOARD FEATURES - 4 PC/Mac Compatible PCI Slots - 2 PC Compatible ISA Slots - 1 TT Compatible VME Slot - 1 Enhanced IDE Port (Up to 2 Devices) - 1 SCSI (TT Compatible - Up to 7 Devices) - 1 Floppy Port (DD 720K, HD 1.44MB, ED 2.88MB) - Modem 1 Port (25 pin, 19200 bps) - Modem 2 Port (9 pin, 250000 bps) - Localtalk Port (8 pin, 250000 bps) - Printer Port (25 pin, ST/TT/Falcon Compatible) - Midi IN and OUT Ports - TOS 3.06 (Slightly Modified) - PC Keyboard Port (Use any PC keyboard!) - Mouse and Joystick (Atari Compatible) INCLUDED IN THE BASIC HADES SYSTEM FROM TOAD COMPUTERS - MC68040 32/64MHz Processor - 1.44MB Floppy Drive - PC Keyboard - Beetle Mouse (choice of colour) - Full Size PC Tower Case - 1.3GB Enhanced IDE 3.5" 9ms Hard Disk - PCI 1MB DRAM ET4000 Graphics Card (up to 1280 x 1024) - NVDI 4 for ET4000 Graphics Cards - Hard Disk Driver Software - 4MB RAM All you need is the Basic Hades System and a standard VGA monitor and you have a blazingly fast Atari-compatible computer that can run rings around most anything out there. ====================================== :: MEDUSA: Three buses, up to 100 MIPS -- how can you go wrong? ====================================== Medusa gives you incredible flexibility and performance. Features include: MOTHERBOARD FEATURES - 6x main-bus, 32bit data, 32bit address, 32Mhz (85MB/sec) - 4x ST-bus, 16bit data, 24 address, 8Mhz (4MB/sec) - 2x RAM-bus, for more than 128MB main memory - Up to 128MB, with card max. 4GB - ROM 0.5-2MB, 32Bit data, 100ns ST I/O DAUGHTERBOARD FEATURES - Printer Port (centronics-parallel) - Modem 1 Port (RS232C) up to 115,200 baud - MIDI In and Out - ISA-bus 16-bit (internal) for graphic card - IDE (intern) for ATA-harddrive (max. 2) - ST-Sound (Yamaha YM2149A Chip) - DMA (ACSI) - Serial 1 Port (RS232C), as on TT030 - ST/TT-keyboard connection - Floppy-bus (internal) for DD, HD, or ED Drives - Battery Supported Clock INCLUDED IN THE BASIC MEDUSA SYSTEM FROM TOAD COMPUTERS - 1.44MB Floppy Drive - Mega STE Keyboard - Beetle Mouse (choice of colour) - Full Size PC Tower Case - 1.3GB Enhanced IDE 3.5" 9ms Hard Disk - PCI 1MB DRAM ET4000 Graphics Card (up to 1280 x 1024) - NVDI 4 for ET4000 Graphics Cards - Hard Disk Driver Software - 4MB RAM OPTIONAL COMPONENTS - SCSI card (TT compatible), 4MB/sec - VME-bus-card with ROM-port - Cartridge Port Card Because of Medusa's unique 3-tiered bus design, it can run faster than Hades (or any other machine out there). Software that's compatible with the TT030 generally works on the Medusa (and the Hades, too). For more information on the new Hades, visit the Medusa Computer system's Homepage at http://www.ee.ethz.ch/~caschwan/medusa.html. Other Medusa/Hades information will also be available at http://www.toad.net. GRIBNIF TITLE: Gribnif in the UK PRESS RELEASE May 15 1996 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ UK Distribution of Gribnif Products ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Titan Designs are pleased to announce that they have successfully negotiated with Dan Wilga of Gribnif Software whereby we will be distributing virtually all of their products into the UK - six major products with three support utilities! Brian Stanton has agreed to handle any technical enquiries through CiX topic(s) which will be situated within our own TITAN titan.bss conference. In addition, personal mail can be addressed directly to Brian at bstanton@cix.compulink.co.uk and he will now be co-modding our Cix conference with Martyn Dryden. For all sales and general enquiries, please contact Titan Designs. Users without a modem or e-mail support can forward technical enquiries to Titan Designs directly. The following products will be available, with all prices quoted in UK pounds and including VAT and carriage. GENEVA v1.04 - œ59.95 Fast, fully featured and reliable multitasking OS for any Atari ST/TT/Falcon. Absolutely magic! GENEVA Utilities Disk - œ12.95 NEODESK 4 (v4.05) - œ59.95 The latest incarnation of the most popular replacement Desktop for the Atari computer. An ease to use! NEODESK 4 Icons - œ7.95 NEODESK CLI v2.1 - œ24.95 GENEVA/NEODESK 4 Bundle Price - œ99.00 (saves nearly œ21.00!) STENO v2.12 - œ24.95 Superb text editor that operates as a Desk ACCessory - ideal for operation from within virtually any program and an ideal working partner for STalker. STALKER 3 (v3.05) - œ39.95 Excellent Communications program. Background Z-modem transfer amongst many other great features. CONVECTOR PRO v1.00J - œ79.00 Fast and easy to use autotracing program. A perfect support program for Arabesque Pro and DTP programs. ARABESQUE PRO v2.15 - œ99.00 The best all-round vector and bitmap editing/creation program for the Atari range. TITAN & BLACK SCORPION WEB SITES Coming soon on a monitor near you! Watch this space! Full product details on just about anything computer related, downloadable demo files, snazzy graphics, worldwide distribution details and, more importantly, fully compatible with CAB! NEMESIS - LATEST NEWS from BLACK SCORPION SOFTWARE!!! Nemesis has certainly raised a lot of interest in the Falcon community. Falcon owners will therefore be pleased to note that Nemesis is already at pre-production level and we expect to be shipping the first production run sometime in June. We are also evaluating the possibility of including an option to raise the performance even further by offering a 60MHz option! If this proves to be reliable, then performance will be raised even further to a 30MHzBus/CPU and 60MHz DSP/FPU. The 60MHz option (if proven to be reliable) will be offered as an optional upgrade to Nemesis. Titan Designs/Black Scorpion Software 6 Witherford Way Selly Oak Birmingham B29 4AX Tel: 0121-693 6669 Fax: 0121-414 1630 e-mail: 100345.2350@compuserve.com SPECTRE A month or two back, I saw an ad. in ST Applications (the last copy I subscribed to -- so now with the demise of Atari World, I rely mainly on WSAUG for news) for the Spectre Mac emulator at a very low price so I thought why not have a wee look and see what it can do. I had never had any interest in PC emulators as they only really run DOS programmes and anyway require interior plumbing which I'm not too keen on unless it's just a memory upgrade. The Mac emulator, however, is just a box including Mac ROMS which plugs into the cartridge port which links into the external floppy port by cable. You can fit or remove it in seconds. This box emulates the Mac Plus which is the oldest of the Macs still widely supported today which usually uses System 6 in some guise or other. To install, you'll need to create a partition on your Hard Drive and shunt any occupying Atari software elsewhere. This is straightforward with the Spectre software provided. Then you have to install the Mac operating system software. If you buy this second hand (the only way to get it as support stopped a while ago from Gadgets by Small inc.), it'll probably be supplied with the cartridge along with some software if you're lucky as I was. Installation is a piece of cake and it's a remarkable sight the first time you see the Spectre programme slowly dissolving away to give way to a Mac desktop. The real question of course not whether it looks nice but whether it can run software. It has a built in advantage over the PC Emulators in making use of the 68000 Motorola processor which is the same as used in Macs up to the Mac Classic which replaced the Plus. I had expected some problems but have so far not found a single programme which refuses to work. That includes testing the likes of Microsoft Word and Excel; in fact Word 5 is supposed to be incompatible with System 6.0.5 but I have got it to run! Speed is somewhat slower than an Atari (at any rate using NVDI) but probably faster than a real Mac using the same processor -- and you have a bigger screen than the Plus or Classic. In theory, Spectre, just like a real Mac Plus should also be compatible with System 7, (though you can forget about virtual memory) which would bring more of the latest programmes within reach but we have to be realistic here -- we are running a mono system so we can forget about the latest true colour multimedia CD ROMS! As with all emulators, many games and some other programmes which make specific hardware calls will not work when the specific hardware doesn't exist. Most Mac programmes though use the Toolbox which is like the GEM libraries so should run without a hitch. Of course the Mac keyboard is also a bit different from the Atari and this was the only thing I had a little difficulty in setting up the correct UK correspondencies -- this required a careful look at the readme and a little experimenting but now most things work fine including even the "help" and "undo" keys which don't even exist on the Mac are matched to the normal keyboard shortcuts. There is one tricky area though and that is the question of printing. Macs are funny, they print from the serial port and have their own special printer codes. As you are not likely to have a Mac printer kicking around, you won't find the drivers supplied with the operating system much use. I thought that drivers for the most common printer types would be found in PD libraries or on the Web -- that unfortunately does not appear to be the case. I have one or two sources to try still but in the meantime, if anyone out there has any ideas, let me know please! I suppose I have a soft spot for Macs as I had my first computer course on them. For those who don't know them, they are very easy to use, doing most operating system tasks for you automatically and having built-in multi-tasking and long filenames. The desktop is very similar to GEM with, say, TOS 2. One oddity is though that there is no floppy eject button -- you have to drag the floppy to the wastebasket so of course you have to make sure Spectre is aware of what's going on when you do eject a disk. If you think that thousands of copies of Spectre were sold a few years ago because, even at a cost of œ300, it was still by far the cheapest way of getting a Mac, then it may well be worth picking up if you see one going cheap like I did. Although of course there are some excellent Atari programmes around such as this Papyrus I'm using for this letter, it can't be denied that the range of Mac stuff is far wider, even excluding the multimedia CD ROMS etc which of course won't run with Spectre. And you can still show off to your sceptical friends that you can run industry standard software on an Atari! WSAUG Microprose Virtual Golf Club OK, Should we start a club within a club ? There are no demos as such planned for the 11th June meeting, but, a number of people have expressed a desire for a head-to-head Microprose Golf Competition. So we're going to try and have a game at the next meeting. This isn't necessarily going to be very well organised, but if you are interested in joining in, then bring the game and your Data disk. We'd be better with extra copies of the game there rather than too few. I'll try to make sure that there at least 2 systems there that the game can be played on. There's no prizes for this one, but hopefully we'll all have a good time. Oh aye, and bring your proper data disk, with your REAL handicap on it. Cheats will be............. Depending on the response on 11th June it might be worthwhile having a go at this regularly [g]. Should we just have friendlies, or should we do something more formal ? The obvious to "go formal" way is a "ladder" idea. I dunno, let me know what you think !! NEWS FROM OTHER ATARI GROUPS/CLUBS TOS User Group Statement Of Intentions The idea for the TOS User Group came about many months ago. At the time, I did not have a modem (or indeed a hard drive or printer) and my only contact with the rest of the Atari using community was through reading magazines such as Atari ST User and ST Review. As you will no doubt be aware, both of these magazines and their successor, Atari World, are now defunct. My original idea revolved around a kind of off-line bulletin board with a disk & postal service. This plan involved message areas, file areas and postal services such as printing and scanning for members. At the time though, I did not feel that I had a good enough set-up to run the venture. Late last year, despite the troubles of Atari and various related third parties, I decided to start improving my set-up. I added a hard drive (a modest 105Mb) and a second hand SM124 (high resolution monitor). The idea for TUG resurfaced and I set about creating a diskzine and propositions for a postal linked user group. (The reason for the postal link is my job - I work funny hours and most days) Earlier this year, I officially founded the group and registered with the UK Association of Atari User Groups. My hope was that Atari World magazine would publish my letters about the group and that this would generate some enquiries. Of course AW issue 12 (the one that would have my letters if they were published) has not yet appeared (and may never L) so I have not yet had any response other than some invaluable setting up assistance from Harry Sideras at the UKAAUG and Alasdair Goold of the WeST of Scotland Atari User Group. I have (eventually - that's another long story of back-orders and stock problems...) got a modem and now feel a bit more "out of the dark" as I involve myself with 42BBS and Penske (great Atari bulletin boards). I have posted the test issue of TUG Magazine and some more information to these and other BBSs. I am now waiting.... So you may be wondering what I'm actually getting at? There are a few components of TUG that I want to implement, here are the main ones: The Magazine By no means the main part of the group, I want it to be more than just another diskzine, but none the less an important communication medium. I had initially envisaged posting a disk each month to members but since I started getting hooked on comms, the idea has evolved somewhat. I now want to get in touch with at least one modem user from as many user groups as possible. The magazine will be distributed free of charge over the TOS friendly BBSs and the cost to members will be minimised. The membership fee can probably be minimal too. If the user services are offered by other users then I don't need to be involved in administration and consequently don't incur any postage etc. costs. I would like to offer a competition for members though and this will obviously cost money - unless a vendor or software author was to offer the prize? If you would like the competition to stay let me know and let me know what prizes you would like to see. The other possible cost inducer is my grandiose plan for a TUG Convention - more details later - but this could be financed on a pay-as-you-attend basis? Again this is a point for debate. I am still willing to offer the magazine on disk, by post, but for a fee to cover costs. The contents of the magazine depend on what you want to read about and WRITE about. The magazine is in ST-Guide hypertext format but I do not mind if you submit articles in ASCII, RTF or ST-Guide SOURCE format. I will compile the magazine on a monthly basis but all members can receive a more frequent contact if they have a lot of 'mail' or have replies from other members. If you want to write regularly or just once or occasionally then get in touch. As you may have realised the magazine (beyond the test issue) is not circulated yet but rest assured, as soon as there is a response there will be a regular magazine. Services TUG members will be encouraged to offer their services in any way they can. This is of particular importance to those of you who have a fancy set-up with useful peripherals that many users do not have access to. I refer mainly to the scanner, laser printer/colour inkjet etc owners among you. You could offer to utilise your equipment on behalf of other members for which you could ask for a small fee to cover postage, running costs etc. If you can offer informational services such as help with a particular application or programming language etc, then you can also include this in your listing although any fees for this should be strictly limited to the cost of posting disks or documents etc. Commercial bodies are welcome to place advertisements but they will be expected to make a contribution to the group, either money to the group funds or products, services or discounts for members. Get in touch with me to discuss this. The standard services, available to all members for free, are: Help and advice about using your TOS system (Desktops, AUTO Folder,Accessories etc.) Help when installing new hardware and software. Technical information about TOS/GEM (please narrow the scope of your enquiries a bit at least). The magazine and it's related files on a monthly basis. Access to TUG public mail/conference files from BBS's Non-modem owners can request BBS message postings and e-mails Please do not abuse the privilege of having my modem used on your behalf - I want to keep costs low and consequently membership fees low. Software I would like to offer shareware and public domain software with the magazine and second-user software through the for sale section of the Exchange. I am also interested in making deals with commercial and shareware authors regarding distribution or demo advertising. I had initially hoped to offer a PD&SW library but this may prove impractical so I would like to recommend that you use one of the libraries listed in the Directory. (My personal fave is Floppyshop) The TUG Directory This is the place where members, vendors, people and organisations of importance to TOS users are listed. A copy can be ordered at any time and the latest listings are in each issue of TUG Magazine. If your organisation is not in here but should be, let me know. I will list any TOS friendly organisation for free but that is as far as the free advertising will go. Membership Membership will be on a quarterly basis. The fee for membership will depend on your status as a TOS user. If you are an individual user , contacting TUG directly, then you will have to either collect your TUG files ('mail', magazine, help etc.) from a BBS or by post on disk. If you are a member of a UKAAUG listed user group then you can collect your TUG files from an appointed member or organiser who will download each members files by modem. If you are a BBS sysop who is willing to offer a local area to TUG then you will obviously be given free membership and access to TUG files for members use. If you represent a non-commercial organisation NOT listed with the UKAAUG then you can arrange to have a group membership with an appointed modem-owning file collector. Finally, if you represent a commercial organisation then you are welcome to place ads and post product/service information but at the cost of donation(s) to the fund or products/services/discounts to members. Quarterly membership fees will initially be set as follows, this cost includes all free membership services as well as update files sent up to once weekly by disk or posted to the BBS of your choice: N E W P O R T F O L I O C L U B (U. K) Hello my name is Paul Finch, I thought you might be interested in the news that I have started up a club for owners of the wonderful Atari Portfolio pocket PC computer, my records show that you deal with Atari computers, so you can be one of the first people to be told about this club, and membership is FREE. There are approx 300 Portfolio users in Europe alone. This club is, therefore, part of a much larger group. Do you know of any other person/company that deals in Portfolio hardware or software. If you do please let me know, so, I can tell all the members of the my club. I have contacts in U.S.A, Canada, Germany, and Czech Republic with supplies of new items for the Portfolio, i.e. Memory cards, Interfaces, floppy drives. Did you know, it is also possible to backup your data on to a standard tape recorder, and upgrade your existing Portfolio to work faster or have a larger internal memory, even have the internal battery backup increased from 10 minutes up to 24 hours! It is also possible to work your Portfolio as a fax machine or have a individual copy of your Portfolio working program on your desktop P.C, even a way to transfer data between an Atari S.T and your Portfolio, yes this is all possible with software from me. You will also be able to read on disk, in my CLUBNEWS about the range of magazines, newsletters, old and new, yes there is a very good newsletter currently being produced in the Czech Republic and its in English. Also a copy of my club's HISTORY on disk. If anyone would like to join this club, just send a S.A.E to my address above. Mr Paul H Finch.16 Cedars Road, MORDEN, Surrey. SM4 5AB. UK. Telephone:- Home:(+44)0181-542-8350, Work:(+44)0171-219-4768 E-mail:finchp@parliament.uk ATARI JAGUAR Up to now I've put little in the newsletter about the Atari Jaguar. Should I change this ? I have no idea if any of the Group members have a Jaguar, if you have and you want something in here about it, then get writing. If you're looking for a Jaguar, Fraser Blacklaws of The Atari User Group (Scotland), has a couple of new ones at a reasonable price. His details are in the for sale section. FOR SALE / WANTED --===0===- Fraser Blacklaws Atari User Group (Scotland) 50 Jones Green, Livingston EH54 8QB has numerous items of software and hardware for sale on behalf of his group. Send him an SAE and a note of what you're looking for, and he'll try to help out. --===0===- Some (well quite a lot) stuff from Danny Bhabuta (AKA The CyberSTryder)Drop him a line to dbhabuta@cix.compulink.co.uk or give me a shout. BRAND NEW First Ever Atari CD to be produced. Compiled by Maxxon in Germany. I have only 1 left. Price: 15 Pounds. Cyber Control, Cyber Paint, Spectrum 512 7 Pounds each or 15 for the whole lot (plus postage of course) GENERAL Easy Draw 2 15 Easy Draw 10 Archive Viper internal SCSI Tape Drive with 9 tapes 130 Box of 10 8" floppy disks 5 Dragons Breath (Game) 5 Outrun (Game) 3 Road Blasters (Game) 3 Master Sound 10 Replay 4 10 Quartet 10 Minix (mini-UNIX) OS 50 Multiprint 5 BMS-100 SCSI adaptor 35 Vortex AT-Once 386SX emulator 70 Supercharger PC Emulator 60 Power Computing external drive 35 1Mb TOS 1.62 STe (modified serial port) 125 (or as a 4Mbmachine ) 165 BOOKS The Atari Compendium 12 Learning C on the Atari ST 6 All the above are subject to postage. Offers on the above items are also welcome. All stuff in very good condition. --===0===-- From: Paul Walsh Date: 05-04-96 17:42 Paul says: "My brother-in-law is seeking a *cheap* computer... (around œ50). So.... WANTED: ST preferably E, tight budget so extras unimportant. Call ANDY on 01259 723097 --===0===- From: Lez Rutherford I have for sale the following:- Falcon 030 32Mhz 4Meg, Mini S 540Meg hard drive with SCSI1 to SCSI2 cable. Tabby Cat graphics pad with software. Blow-Up 2 hard graphics enhanser with software. "The Bug" microswitched joystick. Half decent mouse NOT Atari's 8-) All in very good condition. Will NOT split, has to go as one lot. 600 uk Pounds or make me an offer, sensible ones please 8-) contact me here (42BBS For Sale) or phone 0131-333-1930 (Edinbugh). --===0===- From: Domhnall Dods 1x 520STFM (half meg, d/s d/d drive) 1 x star LC10 dot matrix printer 1 x Phillips RGB colour monitor plus cable 1 x Trust 14400 Fax Modem, boxed as new. I'm looking for about 60 quid for the modem, the others I'm open to offers (If you're interested give me a shout and I'll put you in touch with Domhnall - Al) --===0===- SOFTWARE PIRACY The WeST of Scotland Atari User Group does not condone software piracy and will not allow the group meetings be used to copy commercial software. 1996 MEETINGS All meetings will take place within the upstairs lounge of The Railway Inn, Main Street, Howwood. The doors will be open from 7pm . The formal opening of each meeting will take place at 7:30pm. The propos dates for the meetings to be held in 1996 are as follows. All dates are provisional at the moment and will depend on both the response to the groups as a whole, and the suitability of the Railway Inn. 1996 MEETINGS 11 JUNE 9 JULY 6 AUGUST 3 SEPTEMBER - AGM 1 OCTOBER 29 OCTOBER 26 NOVEMBER 24 DECEMBER -NO MEETING Refreshments In addition to the normal Cold refreshments available at Group nights up till now, coffee is now available as of the May meeting. The coffee is on a self serve and donation basis and we have to give our thanks once again to Danny at the Railway [g]. CREDITS This Newsletter was prepared using Papyrus Gold with N.V.D.I.4 and printed at 300 dpi on a Hewlett Packard Deskjet 500C. Editor: Al Goold (½ WSAUG, 1996)