Weazels ripped my flesh ! (n/t) (The Seeker)

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Re: Here is an idea from our silent buddy Shade
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 12:01:55 

      216.224.148.84 writes:

      vy te sy DL ut er VL lf nv uh dw AR DL cf fb sd EW np xk IC
          S TO PB EW AR EI CE WE AS EL SX ST OP                 s
      ft re OL ka lz YL sl to bk ev ly AR mk rb od na LD yp LA et
                        
      TO PR ED PE NG UI NF RE NZ YS TO P              
      OL qa df hs FZ wn ai ds mu ru OL hr YL lo tw FY LD IC VL us
      vs sf zy lu nf fx lk tg bc do BF al EW rp FY wl hu LD AR li
                         E ND
      tf LA BF FZ cy fu uf bg xx xx
                        



      jeff 

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Re: Worth a try ! 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 12:33:44 

      216.224.148.84 writes:

      dammit

      look at the sentence; tell me if I am wrong

      look at
      YL and the ly in one sentence: should they not be reversable? ???and they are not...

        TO PR ED PE NG UI NF RE NZ YS TO P  
          S TO PB EW AR EI CE WE AS EL SX ST OP 
          S TO PB EW (AR) EI CE WE AS (EL) ST OP                    s
      ft re OL ka lz (YL) sl to bk ev (ly) AR mk rb od na LD yp LA et
                        
      TO PB EW AR EI CE WE AS EL SX ST OP
      TO PR ED PE NG UI NF RE NZ YS TO P  ar ot 
      TO PB EW AR EI CE WE AS EL ST OP            
      OL qa df hs FZ wn ai ds mu ru OL hr YL lo tw FY LD IC VL us
      but shades second one ??? might be???
      btw; Seeker thanks for compliments; have about 2 more days work to complete that essay;
      have not bought CDRW yet; several expensive Real life expenses came up...am thinking about plextor or Yamaha now also...
      anyway will divide my time today with essay later and this project this morning for next few hours
      respeects to all
      oh and btw; I wasn't saying: :( end of project we failed; were losers; I said; wow what fun; it has been great working with u all...and it ain't over til the fat lady signs!!!!! :)
      jeff

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Re: Re: Worth a try ! 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 12:50:14 

      194.138.158.162 writes:

      Interested in Yamaha or Plextor?
      Send me a mail and I'll explain more...

      BTW, keep up your excellent work ;-) 

      DQ 

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4 Jeff : crash position
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 12:57:25 

      193.158.173.182 writes:

      Hi Jeff, 

      sorry for that misunderstanding. I KNOW that you did NOT say : we are losers ! 

      Next time we met, the drinks are on my bill ! 

      The Seeker 

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Re: hehehe
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 13:20:53 

      216.224.148.84 writes:

      ..actually; sorry; I KNOW that U didn't think I said that either...i worded it wrong as usual...

      I keep posting this kind of stuff below just in case someone sees something that I don't...
      just re-hashing this I guess

      b e w a r
      i c s l d
      f g h k m
      n o p q t
      u v x y z
       now going down the above coloum we have... bifnu;
      posted horizontaly below...it now ALSO READS bewar vertically:
      b i f n u
      e c g o v
      w s h p x
      a l k q y
      r d m t z
      nothing spectacular...just something I just now noticed
      then
      Princess matrix idea:
      b e w a r i c s l
      d f g h k m n o p
      q t u v x y z
      b d q e f
      t w g u a
      h v r k x
      i m y c n
      z s o l p
      bg doesn't = nd
      nada
      r e d p n g u i f z y
      a b c h k l m o q s t
      v w x 
      r a v e b  << got a word finally 'rave'
      w d c x p
      h n k g l
      u m i o f
      q z s y t
      bg doesn't = nd
      nada



      theres something on the tip of my mind that keeps saying...even without the keyword we should be able to take the words
      that we DO KNOW and build a matrix with those words & then reverse them to = the real keyword...I'm not explaining that
      right either...ahhhh 

      Hiya DQ; thanks; am working hard on essay; but it doesn't FEEL right; its like a 'message' or 'energy' is missing...and theres
      to many I (eyes)
      I did this, and I did that, and I I I I I; it doesn't feel right everybody worked on this; and even if they were not successful their
      attempt gave me the idea to go try it... but all I can write is what I personaly went and worked on... 

      sometimes i read an essay and I go "whoa" Now I SEE...I'm not getting that feeling into this essay at all. anyway i guess I
      shouldn't use this board for this....a couple more days should have that essay done...

      respects to all
      jeff 

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Nada !
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 12:30:28 

      193.158.173.97 writes:

      AR ==YL 
      means 
      A Y 
      L R

      BUT : 
      SX==AR 
      means 
      A S 
      X R

      (won't work vertical too :((

      I hope I am wrong with this !?

      The Seeker

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Re: Nada ! + some 'brute-force' results
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 15:40:39 

      194.78.233.216 writes:

      Hi guys,

      Nope seeker, don't think you are wrong :(

      Anyway, this morning at work I shooted my last bullets ... Went to 'brute force' :( shame on me, lol. Anyway, it was not a real
      brute force (this would take weeks i think). But here are some result you may prefer to not read ... It's up to you ...

      Anyway, With all the keys i tried I got a lot of stop and end (those are the words on which I triggered). Not one 'END' at the
      end :( ... But lot of 'STOP' ... And almost all of them were always at the same position : STOP starting at 48 ,79, 54, 102.
      May be worth to focus on those positions. 
      Also, while scrolling through all the "plain" text i got, something popped out ... A word, or at least part of a work, appear very
      frequently at the same positions. It is 'ABOTAG' starting at 136. Of course this got me thinking to sABOTAGe. 

      Well, that's what i'm going to work on now.... I posted it here just in case someone wanted to know it. Nothing is sure in that
      ... Just a 'big' probability. As I won't be able to work much on it before the deadline (which is in a few hour), anybody is
      welcome to check it too :)

      Got to run again,

      Laurent.

      PS : Jeff, I couldn't check your essay yet, but i'll print and read it this weekend :) 

      Laurent 

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Re: Re: Nada ! + some 'brute-force' results
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 16:13:18 

      216.224.155.23 writes:

      well
      its 1:00 in afternoon here in California; this means I have 11 hours left; I think since we are a TEAM that means u all have 11
      hours left also...:)
      anyone from Hawaii here? that would give us 3 additional hours...:)

      Laurent; Sabotage.....sounds like it could REALLY be in there!!!
      I was putting together a list of possible message:
      england
      english
      British
      german
      germans
      Churchill
      nazi
      nazis
      gestapo
      air 
      air raid
      Norway
      Urgent
      materials
      BBC
      bomb
      war
      stop end
      spy
      project
      group
      allies
      US
      USA
      Americans
      Hitler
      Mouselaliiiiiiiini (I don't know how to spell that)
      ect ect ect

      but
      SABOTAGE man that sounds GOOD!!!!!!

      respects
      jeff

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11 hours ! Ring the bells ! 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 17:11:22 

      193.158.164.40 writes:

      Awfully tired, but gonna take a lst effort on ABOTAG / 136 ! 

      Saddle up the palomino ! 

      the seeker 

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Re: Seeker.....what does 136 mean anyway? (n/t) (jeff) 

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Bad moon rising 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 17:27:23 

      193.158.164.104 writes:

      136 == position of ABOTAG, which Laurent posted. 

      So this gives us : 

      AB = bc ==> ABC

      OT = do ==> TOD 

      (both/one of them could be vertical too)

      AG = bf ==> 

      A B c
      F G 

      to be continued (hope so)

      The Seeker 

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Strange brew
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 17:59:43 

      193.158.173.214 writes:

      following my above (maybe wrong) matrix leads me to : 

      A B C ?(or empty) E 
      F G ? ?(or empty) .
      ? . . ?(or empty) L 

      hmmmm, reminds me of what ?! 

      gonna buy me a new thinking cap 

      the seeker 

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searching for the light 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 18:12:59 

      193.158.164.52 writes:

      looks interesting : 

      D E A B C 
      . L F G .

      dead kennedys ? NO 
      dead bec.. ? 
      dead bac.. ? 
      (and more, coz it could be the send line) 

      comments are (more than) welcome 

      the seeker 

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maybe ..
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 18:33:50 

      62.156.30.57 writes:

      .. the last word == SI GN ???



      The Seeker 

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Re: maybe ..heheh; am glad to see u still working; wish I had
                                                       something to contribute except silence; deadbackup (n/t) (hummm; )

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.. which is sometimes golden :-)
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 18:47:29 

      193.158.164.3 writes:

      probably I stand as a complete idiot in the light of day. 

      thinking....thinking....

      the seeker

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Re: argggg
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 18:50:36 

      216.224.155.23 writes:

      dammit
      except for ol and lo there just aren't many repeats on this....I mean even END doesn't give us nuthin in repeats....I'm gettin
      pissed now...I can't figure out what chapter 7 is saying either... Seeker are u onto something?

      what line is sabotage word at?

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2nd sitting (for the last supper)
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 19:11:58 

      193.158.164.20 writes:

      1. if number 136 == correct, then ?SABOTAGE? is in the 4th line with ?S = tg, AB=bc ... 
      Hope this is correct ! (Don't trust myself anymore) 

      2. Correction to above matrix : 

      C D E A B 
      ? O ? F G 
      ? T ? S N 

      which does NOT make any sense to me. What's the word ? No, better not, children are watching. 

      So - standing here barely naked - at the end of the road ? 

      Damn, I hope they post the solution ASAP - don't wanna wait til monday ! 

      the seeker 

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Re: well can anyone fill in
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 19:26:34 

      216.224.155.23 writes:

      can anyone fill in some more of this; assuming its even close: what would that first word be if so?

            ur df                                  er
      VY TE SY ED LU TE RV LF NV UH DW AR DL CF FB SD EW NP XK IC 
         ds TO p           ol                                   s
      FT RE OL KA LZ YL SL TO BK EV LY AR MK RB OD NA LD YP LA ET
      T0 pr ed Pe ng ui nf re nz ys to p     0t 
      OL QA DF HS FZ WN AI DS MU RU OL HR YL LO TW FY LD IC VL US
       
        (in g)    ai
      VS SF ZY LU NF FX LK TG BC DO BF AL EW RP FY WL HU LD AR LI 
                 ng        e nd x                      
      TF LA (BF) FZ CY FU UF BG XX XX 



      jeff 

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orry Jeff, but
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 19:38:04 

      193.158.164.199 writes:

      .. I am getting more and more sleepy. Gonna follow the trail, which princess has shown, and then I think I will be signing off. 

      the (unsuccessful) seeker 

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Re: Re: well can anyone fill in
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 22:36:11 

      216.58.8.61 writes:

      Hi jeff
      You have several TO=OL combinations. Would the O not encipher itself which is not allowed in Playfair?


      ur df er
      VY TE SY ED LU TE RV LF NV UH DW AR DL CF FB SD EW NP XK IC 
      ds TO p ol s
      FT RE OL KA LZ YL SL TO BK EV LY AR MK RB OD NA LD YP LA ET
      T0 pr ed Pe ng ui nf re nz ys to p 0t 
      OL QA DF HS FZ WN AI DS MU RU OL HR YL LO TW FY LD IC VL US

      (in g) ai
      VS SF ZY LU NF FX LK TG BC DO BF AL EW RP FY WL HU LD AR LI 
      ng e nd x 
      TF LA (BF) FZ CY FU UF BG XX XX 


      Regards Princess 

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Re: Re: Re: well can anyone fill in
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 22:38:24 

      216.58.8.61 writes:

      sorry Jeff

      OOps I forgot the pre tab look at your own listing

      Princess 

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Re: Re: Re: Nada ! + some 'brute-force' results
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 19:03:17 

      216.58.8.42 writes:

      Greets everyone.

      I have tried sabotage and just cannot fit it in propperly, at least not yet.

      Here are other words that might be in the message 
      arrested
      decoded
      captured
      sucess (as without sucess which would fit the UF FU and then the word end)

      I had a few others but cannot find them at the moment.

      regards 
      Princess 

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typo 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 19:35:16 

      193.158.164.199 writes:

      think you mean SUCcESS - 
      which would run with : 

      ?S UC XC ES SE ND 
      BF FZ CY FU UF BG 

      thanks, gonna have a look at it. Gonna be one of my last trails tonight. 

      the seeker

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pop goes the weasel 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 19:56:02 

      62.156.30.212 writes:

      Hi princess, 
      my reults for 'SUCCESS END' : 
      (?S UC XC ES SE ND)
      (bf fz cy fu uf bg)


      S U E F 
      . . . X 
      . Z . C 
      Y 


      Not very much success :-( - but all in all for me/tonight : THE END 

      signing off 
      regards 

      the seeker 

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Re: typo 
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 22:27:23 

      216.58.8.61 writes:

      Greetings everyone.

      OOps, Yes Sorry about the typo.

      If we want to work on the premise that FU UF BG stands for ESSEND here are some words that end with ESS.
      Some of them (there are 27) you might already have thought of.

      Less
      Mess
      Dress
      Press
      Access
      Excess
      Unless
      Stress
      Distress
      Success
      Illness
      Useless
      Witness
      Address
      Express
      Careless
      Wireless
      Business
      Darkness
      Congress
      Progress
      Fortress
      Correctness
      Preparedness
      Completeness
      Carelessness
      and Princess


      Regards 
      Princess

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Re: hiya princess; 4 hours left for me
 Friday, 19-Nov-1999 22:55:33 

      216.224.149.41 writes:

      had not thought about that OT and O thing; I am just to tired....only four hours left...
      hey u forgot a 'ess' word
      Princess heheh

      well thought I was onto something a little while ago I went to altavista and typed in
      weasels
      do you know there is a category for ice weasels?
      yep; there was...
      I found a copule sites that said something like
      ice weasels they come at night....
      Yippee...I thought I had stumbeled on to something...like:

      stop beware ice weasels they come at night stop

      but alas as I kept searching it seems people have taken latitudes with the wording cause it seems to be a quote by Nietchze 


      written by Nietchze
      Love is like racing across the frozen tundra; your sled tips over trapping you underneath; at night the ice weasels come.


      xxxxx
      Ice Weasels. They are a rare bread of weasels found on icy
      mountain tops. They are hard to find due to their ability the burrow
      deep into the ice and hide for years at a time without food, air or
      water. 
      XXXXX
      at night they come.
      (again it says this on this page???????
      http://jh.ccs.neu.edu:7043/browser_object/objnum!%232835

      could at night they come be in our message?



      heres another quote: dam 3 different versions...I was hoping it'd be famous but looks like 
      people have changed it...

      http://members.aol.com/Nikibelle/quotes5.html
      Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At
      night, the ice-weasels come.
      Nietchze 

      and http://www.loveblender.com/1998july/heart/snowmobile.html

      I am just out of ideas...it should have been esaier than this...why didn't any letters line up for repeats or reversals.............?

      Im taking another break...

      I got your mail; will write u back asking if u can upload to one of my upload sites that u larerady have a user & password to
      from the project; will refresh your memory in mail in case u dropped it sincee then;
      thanks! 

      jeff 

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Good morning America ..
 Saturday, 20-Nov-1999 00:38:07 

      193.158.173.55 writes:

      .. and especially you people from NOVA. Had only 4 hours of sleep to see the solution at your site : rien, absolutely nothing,
      nix, nada. Cmon, the world is watching ! Free our souls ! 

      the seeker 

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