| From: | Matt Sealey |
| Date: | 15 Aug 2000 at 20:03:32 |
| Subject: | Re: PGP and UUen/decode |
Hello Andy
On 14-Aug-00, you wrote:
> On Mon, 14 Aug 2000, Matt Sealey wrote:
>>
>>> Or you want to piss off the government by encrypting everything and put
>>> paid to their idiotic RIP bill ;)
>>
>> But they can pull up to your house and get them to make you give your
>> private key up, still. Encryption isn't a way of avoiding the bill, more a
>> way to ensure that you'll be ensnared by it.
>
> Which either leads to "Ok, here's my key. Look! It's all innocent! Sorry
> you wasted your time",
But you were still hassled by it. Which you wouldn't have had if you hadn't
encrypted your mail.
> or "I've lost it".
"like fudge you have, you're NICKED, sonny Jim!" :)
>> My effort to circumvent silly ISP monitoring schemes will be to set up my
>> own mailserver when I get ADSL :)
>
> That won't necessarily work, will it? My email doesn't sit on my ISPs
> servers, just comes straight through to me using SMTP. However, it still
> passes through my ISP at some point.
All mail goes through practically all SMTP relays, there must be about 5
steps to get to my Uni account from, say, Freeserve. Three from U-Net.
Expecting every ISP mailserver on the planet to capture every mail that
passes through it would be ludicrous.
Anyway, only the ISP's mailservers (I assume they mean POP3 accounts)
need have that special box on. Not yours. So any mail you send can get
relayed out anywhere.. and any mail to your domain goes "directly" to
you (it may not even touch your ISP's relay..)
> So two options if RIP is going to be at all effective. Either make the
> ISPs install something that monitors all the traffic coming through their
> routers,
How stupid is that? Do you want me to dig out how much data goes through
our routers at work? Now imagine an ISP - thousands upon thousands of
users (rather than a few hundred) transferring data...
> or make having your email delivered by SMTP illegal and force
> everyone to use POP3 instead and monitor the mail servers.
But POP3 doesn't handle relaying messages: it's just a protocol for downloading
mail to machines.. so you'll basically have to send each mail to someone else's
POP3 server - and if that server is down, or is on a painfully slow link, then
you're stuffed. Or you could use SMTP :)
Thanks
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