| From: | Petr Krenzelok |
| Date: | 12 Sep 2000 at 19:26:37 |
| Subject: | Re: [Re: AMIOPEN: G450 released] |
----- Original Message -----
From: g'o'tz ohnesorge <gohnesorge@lh-computertechnik.de>
To: <open@amiga.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Re: AMIOPEN: G450 released]
> James Russell wrote:
>
> > I agree. I have an ATI All-in-wonder Pro and refuse to "upgrade" to a
> > video card that doesn't support video in/TV card capabilities.
>
> I have the same and will happily change to having graphics and 3D output
on a separate card than
> video and TV input .. I have a feeling ATi may have compromised a bit on
quality to get both onto
> the same card at a selling price. But I do think that a computer should be
able to "see", i.e.
> have video in and such (which oddly enough has also been specified so by
the great evil in their
> PC99 spec), and ideally also software to do something useful from this.
>
> > my TV as far as games go (also, on a TV you lose at least an inch of
> > picture on all sides, at least on standard crap TVs), and whatever
>
> Hehe .. most people with video or TV-out features on their gfx cards are
hunting after tools to
> get the black border away and stretch the picture output, so it'll reach
into all edges of their
> TV. But I share your taste of seeing all plus that border instead of
having any pixel invisible
> out there .. control freak and such. ;)
>
> > for something more multimedia capable than the G400/G450 for the real
>
> The Matrox Marvel add-on to the G400 cards is one of the highest quality
and features video
> capture devices in the low-cost market (well, still double as expensive as
our AIWpro ever used to
> be, but should beat it hands down in every aspect). There's more than one
reason Matrox was chosen
> by Amiga.
>
Coming lately to the discussing, but Amiga could really tell us what was the
reason. I have suspicion the reason is ATI or NVidia refused to talk to such
small company as Amiga is.
It was said Matrox is for home use. In our country - Matrox dual head 32MB
costs half the average salary. I bought one and feel pissed. Their website
is full of hype, and it seems to me they stopped inovation and G450 is more
like A600 to A500. Something's new, but not worth of one year of waiting.
NVidia GTS and ATI Radeon based cards are more powerfull, and what's more -
Dual head capabilities are not usable, while watching output to TV in
DVDMax, even my new Duron 650 machine doesn't seem to be capable of serious
work on primar display. Mouse is jerky and it influences smoothness of movie
being played. Switching from one mode to another is not smooth too, it
several times refreshes the screen. I use latest drivers ...
At the price given, one can get ATI-all-in-wonder with built in TV out,
TV/Video in, TV tuner, and what's more - once you connect TV to your TV
output, it outputs the signal during the boot. Matrox is dependand upon
driver presence.
The conclusion so far - my friends ATi seems to be much more home friendly
than Matrox. Matrox has very nice picture, that's true, I just hope G800
will add to Dual Head capabilities something more usable for typical joe
home user ...
-pekr-
>
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