| From: | Claus Luethje |
| Date: | 29 Sep 2000 at 01:23:55 |
| Subject: | Re: AMIOPEN: The Windoze SDK |
Hi Rafael,
Rafael Vicar�a Alloza wrote:
>
> Hello Sanjeev,
>
> On Thursday, 28-Sep-00, 12:38:36,
> <open@amiga.com> wrote about:
> Re: AMIOPEN: The Windoze SDK:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > Maybe windoze will not be as efficient in running the SDK as Linux,
> > but the Windows environment may bring in more developers. Few people
> > have the time or resources to install Linux to just run the SDK.
>
> IMHO, if the windoze environment can bring the kind of clueless developers that can't
> install linux because of their ignorance about other platforms, with the
> poor bad practices that the evil from Redmond has imposed and "standarized", we're
> much better off without them. What kind of code will they produce? Have
> they ever cared about portability, quality and security? Have they ever
> known about portability, quality and security?
So, there are Linux programmers and bad programmers? - Come on, I'm a
mainframe software engineer for quite some years now programming in
PL/I,
Cobol and Java (and some other languages). I'm surely not the best
programmer in the world, but I know what I'm doing.
I see the advantages of AMI as a solution in a part of computing
AmigaInc
hasn't talked about yet. So I want to learn about using AMI, the
concepts and
the vision.
Being a project manager for several internal and external projects ATM,
I don't have time to learn Linux to get AMI running. All I'm interested
in is AMI.
The hosting OS is irrelevant for me, as it is for AMI.
{snip}
> Come on!, all this whining because you have to read a lot of books
> and docs to install Linux? You should try NetBSD instead. It's harder to
> install and you have to do a lot of RTFMing in a much more scarce
> documentation, but you do learn a hell of a lot in the process. Just for
> the sake of your own education.
Why should I read Linux books to get AMI running? - There is not
dependency
betwen Linux and AMI. It may be fun to learn Linux - I don't know and I
have
no time to care.
> Moreover, the opportunity to run the same binaries on different platforms
> will put in direct evidence which are the good ones and which are the
> bad ones, technically speaking. And it will ultimately show the worst of windoze.
> But this will not work for eroding windoze.
{snip}
I couldn't care less, if AMI runs faster or slower on my Windows-based
dev-box,
as I can be sure ma apps will run on any AMI-capable machine. In a
couple of months
AMI can run native and you will use dev tools for AMI on AmigaOne and
other
plattforms.
> What will happen instead is that the loads of "windoze developpers" will
> blame Amiga/Tao for the lack of speed of the windoze SDK, instead of windoze, and whining
> loudly and in masses to Amiga, to make the faster, making Amiga to waste precious
> resources in optimizing the unpotimizable.
Windows is bloated, but there are a lot of programmers on Windows doing
a good job.
BTW, Amiga isn't wasting any resources to optimize Windows by providing
SDK
for Windows.
{snip}
Please Rafael, think before you insult people next time.
You critize 'ignorant' people by putting all developpers not working on
Amiga and Linux in the 'bad programmers'-bag. That's at least as
ignorant!
There are hard working people on this list, trying to create
opportunites
for AMI, write tools and apps or just evangelising (sp?). For many
hosted
development is just passing phase.
So, let's stop this unproductive OS bashing and get back to work!
Regards,
Claus Luethje
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