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From:Lee Bosch
Date:29 Sep 2000 at 20:23:44
Subject:Re: FW: AMIOPEN: The Windoze SDK

On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Michiel Erasmus wrote:

> > platforms, with the
> > poor bad practices that the evil from Redmond has imposed and
> > "standarized", we're
>
> Unfortunatley, the fact is, that Windoze is "standarized" in the computer
> world. Weather anyone like it or not, its a fact of the reality of the
> current and future computer situation.

As a System Administrator charged with deploying a software package from
a Microsoft "Partner", I can assure you that Windows is so poorly
"standardized" that not even Microsoft applications run reliably.
Backwards compatability is not a feature of many Windows DLLs and this
causes all sorts of problems. Where a typical classic Amiga installation
might have a libs: directory of a few dozen files, there are no fewer than
500 .DLL files haunting the Windows System directory. Many times the
fault is with the install program overwriting more current files but other
times the conflict is a simple name clash.

> If I was a commercial developer and not intending to make use hardware/OS
> independence apps then I will be developing for windoze. Then I am not
> gonna care about portability etc and not gonna use the AMiga/Tao SDK.

There is a similar issue in the classic Amiga community: to use GCC and
its attendant tools versus native tools. The Geek Gadgets tools are
considerably more up-to-date than many of the Amiga development tools but
they frequently produce less than optimal results. The idea of the new
Amiga is similar but the hope is that the systems resources are better
defined and documented that those of Windows.

> I have already done a LOT of Linux HOWTO RTFMing, and found that quite
> educational. I know now a lot more about IP masquerading, kernel setups and
> what have you since the past 2 months. But, as I am not into systems
> controlling these Linux FAQ/HOWTOs is (to use Seven of Nine's words)
> irrelevant. As said just now, the educational value is nice but nothing
> more. So is the opinion of commercial developers too. And, it will only be
> sensible that @amiga.com isn't stupid and realise it also.

I think it depends on how much counterforce you exert as to how much
trouble you have. RedHat 6.x left alone will install itself with little
more than a login and password. I think the major problem here is that so
many choose to run their own private flavor of Linux (just as there are
those who would choose to run 95, 98, NT, Me or 2000 as their Windows
platform of choice) and the discussions have degenerated into why the SDK
needs to support all possible operating systems.

> The idea is to get going in the AmigaSDK, not to read Linux HOWTO's.

Please consider trying RedHat Linux 6.1 as recommended. You might be
surprised how easy it is to set up.

Lee Bosch

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