AmigaActive (1407/1947)

From:No_good
Date:23 Apr 2001 at 15:46:46
Subject:Common misconception (was Re: Voyager Image Decoders)

--- In amigactive@y..., Matt Sealey <matt@k...> wrote:

> I'm not going to link the two FOR you.

Why not aftre all i'm just an idiot moron loser user aren't I?

>
> Dead companies can't sue.

But Ralph who you earlier claimed the rights went to didn't die.

> The fact that Ralph is doing a proven better job on his own now..
well,
> that's proof enough isn't it? I don't know, writing a microkernel
and
> AmigaOS emulation layer, porting multiple components to PPC native
> solutions, bringing up support from large companies (Titan, EPIC,
> VFD) and codeshops (Vapor, SASG)..
>
> .. what did H&P ever do? Redistribute illegal software and code in-
house
> crap like ArtEffect. I'm so glad I actually won the damn thing,
because I
> certainly would NOT have bought it.

I've never disputed either of those facts.

> They did WHAT in a year since Commodore? Gateway produced their
> Amiga last year, it morphed into the AOLObjects box. The work was
> WELL underway, almost to completion. You just never saw it.

They brought out a case. What about the MMC, the advanced operating
system?

> So, Amiga brought out an SDK - which is now technically useless
> given current plans - and it wasn't even using any in-house Amiga
> technology. The same developer kit could well have come out of Tao
> at any time (and actually probably did, Amiga just boxed it and
wrote
> some manuals)

But they got people developing, did the november box ever come out?

> AmigaOS 5.0 is the integration of a 64-bit PPC native AmigaOS with
> the AmigaDE components. AmigaDE is a seperate entity, but the
integration
> could have been done by now.

The DE will be intergrated well before then. The DE will be released
as a hosted environment well before then on other platforms too.

> No, he'd go "yes, that's a great idea, you go and do it, I've made a
> developer kit and whatever, you didn't even need to ask unless you
> wanted help. More (-fos) power to you! :P"

"Could I have some help?"
"Well no"

> But H&P and aligned developers have a tendency to not say "I want
> to implement this" or "this would be a good idea", they have a
tendency
> to email him and say "WHY DON'T YOU SUPPORT WARPOS!?! THIS IS
> BROKEN! FIX THIS! WILD ASSUMPTION ABOUT HOW IT ALL WORKS!!"
> which is annoying at best.

The request for WarpOS support is a good one, whats the point of a
next generation PPC Amiga OS that only runs half the current PPC
software.

> > Are you refering to MOS's well, know 3D API? Oh no, they don't
have
> > one, but anyone can do it!
>
> They have Rave - an API well used on the Macintosh - and OpenGL
> support. Granted, not PPC native, but nonetheless.
>
> Warp3D works fine on MorphOS.

But didn't Hyperion write that? that hardly is the same as MOS
actually writing thier own API.

> They do good work, they just have bad friends.

There not the only ones....

> > Not is as far as bplan are concerned at least publically. last
time I
> > looked Amiga had been completly removed off of the website.
>
> Ask yourself why?

But you said they're going to use the amiga branding that they have
licenced. Wrong hole methinks.....

> Ordinary users don't know anything about the situation, so in effect
> they are "scum", as you put it. It's hard to discuss stuff like
that without
> breaking all kinds of laws.

But other people manage to not treat them in that way, so what makes
MOS so special.

> > THERE ISN'T ENOUGH USERS LEFT! CAN'T YOU COUNT OR SOMETHING? A
> > unified solution would make sense.
>
> Thee AREN'T enough users left. Can't you spell or something?
^
I clearly can spell, it's just my grammar that is a bit dodgy. So
that insult wat not only completely wrong but you did what you
accused me of (Which i didn't do).

I'm not going to bother with this anymore. I've felt like resorting
to name-calling once too often for my liking. The last thing I'd
want is to sink to that level.

Andy

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