AmigaActive (1423/1947)

From:Matt Sealey
Date:23 Apr 2001 at 18:37:49
Subject:Re: Common misconception (was Re: Voyager Image Decoders)

Hello No_good@jgen.fsnet.co.uk

On 23-Apr-01, you wrote:

>> I'm not going to link the two FOR you.
>
> Why not aftre all i'm just an idiot moron loser user aren't I?

Yes, and if I tell you you'll never really learn stuff for yourself.
I bet you use calculators in maths class as well. Whatever was
wrong with doing long division on paper, eh? :)

>> Dead companies can't sue.
>
> But Ralph who you earlier claimed the rights went to didn't die.

And Ralph himself cannot afford to take up legal action against
a huge company. phase5 couldn't even afford it, they went into
liquidation, remember? :)

> I've never disputed either of those facts.

Good.

>> They did WHAT in a year since Commodore? Gateway produced their
>> Amiga last year, it morphed into the AOLObjects box. The work was
>> WELL underway, almost to completion. You just never saw it.
>
> They brought out a case. What about the MMC, the advanced operating
> system?

The MMC "computer" is finished, the advanced operating system is
Linux with some object components system on top.

Came out mid-last year. The November box was a plain old Linux PC,
just as the Amiga Inc. "November box" was the same.

> But they got people developing, did the november box ever come out?

They got people developing for a platform that no longer exists outside
PDA's, because focus has now shifted BACK to PPC optimization and
AmigaOS "Classic" APIs and methods, with VP grafted on top so that
you can run your PDA apps there too.

The November box never came out because it wouldn't have been
worth the hassle. That plan was scrapped, remember? They went
Linux.

>> could have been done by now.
>
> The DE will be intergrated well before then. The DE will be released
> as a hosted environment well before then on other platforms too.

The DE will not be integrated before then. Amiga's own timelines
state that fact. Running the equivalent of the Windows SDK on
AmigaOS PPC is not integrated. Leveraging Java components
by running them on the VP subsystem that is part of the lovely
64-bit microkernel operating system they're writing *is*.

>> BROKEN! FIX THIS! WILD ASSUMPTION ABOUT HOW IT ALL WORKS!!"
>> which is annoying at best.
>
> The request for WarpOS support is a good one, whats the point of a
> next generation PPC Amiga OS that only runs half the current PPC
> software.

WarpOS support is there. It works. It just isn't a priority over, say,
finishing what is needed like the PPC native components. Someone
else did the WarpOS part.

>> They have Rave - an API well used on the Macintosh - and OpenGL
>> support. Granted, not PPC native, but nonetheless.
>>
>> Warp3D works fine on MorphOS.
>
> But didn't Hyperion write that? that hardly is the same as MOS
> actually writing thier own API.

Why implement a whole new API? They already have 3 running..

>>> Not is as far as bplan are concerned at least publically. last
>>> time I looked Amiga had been completly removed off of the website.
>>
>> Ask yourself why?
>
> But you said they're going to use the amiga branding that they have
> licenced. Wrong hole methinks.....

I said it was "Amiga approved".

> I'm not going to bother with this anymore. I've felt like resorting
> to name-calling once too often for my liking. The last thing I'd
> want is to sink to that level.

Your loss :P

Thanks



Matt Sealey <matt@kittycat.co.uk>
Website http://www.kittycat.co.uk

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