| From: | A-Scotland,ex1 |
| Date: | 15 Aug 2001 at 16:44:41 |
| Subject: | [amiga-c] Re: GCC and exceptions... |
On Tue, 14 Aug 2001 AD, Jesper Svennevid wrote:
>
>> Hello, Jesper
>>
>> On 14-Aug-01, you wrote:
>>
>>JS>> Btw: does anyone know any good MS-VC++ programming
>>JS>> mailinglists (like
>>JS>> this
>>JS>> one)? Preferably one where people aren't afraid to
>>JS>> admit that they
>>JS>> are
>>JS>> wasting their time with the stupid Win 32 API... ;-)
>>JS>
>>JS> I have to admit that I use MSVC++ every day at work,
>>JS> and I've done
>>JS> quite a lot with the Win32-API (the API in itself
>>JS> isn't that bad
>>JS> really, and usually you just hide it behind some class
>>JS> :)... But that
>>JS> would bring us off-topic in this group, wouldn't it? :)
>>
>> is anybody actually using MSVC to compile C++ code now? MSVC is
>> not regarded as a good C++ compiler (actually StormC V3 is probably
>> just as good).
>
> Everyone I know that does Wintel-development uses MSVC. MSVC is a VERY
> good C++ compiler (fast, optimizing really good, etc), and has a
> still-to-be-beaten IDE (the debugger just RULES! StormC comes close
> there, but with Edit-And-Continue, it moves to a different level). It
> reduces the development-time quite a bit, and with a few aids (Visual
> Assist, BoundChecker, etc) you can even cut it some more.
I use MS C 1.54 (NOT Visual C ;) and it sucks. Lots of things are
non-standard. I end up using VC++6 to edit and C1.54 to compile...
Neither of them has as good an IDE as JDeveloper though IMHO, it's
just a shame that it's not C/C++ :>
> IMHO StormC V3 is not even close... I can't express myself on
> V4, as I've
> only tried it once, and very briefly (as it consumed 11MB of
> memory and
> took a bit over a minute to load, I decided that it wasn't
> worth it), so
> it might produce good code. Although, it uses the GCC
> 2.x-engine which is
> pretty pathetic when doing certain optimizations... Only compiler that
> has beaten me when hand-optimizing assembler(x86) is in fact MSVC.
I'd get shot if I hand optimised anything. I'm using SAS/C on the Amiga
with Ed and a 2nd hand copy of Cygnus ED. I think it's a better
environment than MSC, but probably not better than MSVC (unfortunately)
...and I don't know of any mailing lists either, but I'd like to find
out...so any information that you get... can you FW it to me? Thanks.
Regards,
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