Re: Scripture (was: Unlikely Existence of God)

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: : : (This post is a reply to Lynn's comments) : : In your previous post you said that I may get proof of a : : spiritual realm but it would be from the Anti-Christ who would : : perform signs and wonders. When this begins, you claimed that : : people with anti-Christian sentiments would start the : : persecution of Christians. You also wanted to discuss biblical : : scripture. : : To start, I would like to say that I am not your enemy. I'm not : : anti-Christian but more accurately, I'm non-Christian. Just because : : you're not a Bahai doesn't mean you're anti-Bahai does it? Like I : : said before, I can respect the religious beliefs of others but I : : cannot embrace them. Also, even if some guy showed me that he had : : supernatural powers, I'd rather die than persecute people for their : : religious beliefs (and I'm sure that most people who post here : : would agree with me). : : Getting into biblical scripture, I do have a few questions. I'm : : sure that you're familiar with the Mosaic Law in the OT. Here's an : : example: : : "If anyone secretly entices you-- even if it is your : : brother, your father's son or your mother's son, or : : your own son or daughter, or the wife you embrace, or : : your most intimate friend-- saying, "Let us go worship : : other gods," .... you must not yield to or heed any : : such persons. Show them no pity or compassion and do : : not shield them. But you shall surely kill them; your : : own hand shall be first against them to execute them, : : and afterwards the hand of all the people." : : (Deut. 13:6,8-9) : : Now if you were an Israelite living in OT times, would you really : : obey such an order? If I was the Israelite I would have said, : : "God, you may have the might but you don't have the right!" Like : : I said, I'd rather die than persecute people because of their : : religious beliefs. There's more. Mosaic Law commanded the death : : penalty for things like: not keeping the sabbath, being a : : stubborn son, homosexuality, and adultery. In addition, things : : like genocide and murdering infants and children are routinely : : commanded to the Israelites by a supposedly omnibenevolent deity. : : If you subscribe to "Skeptic" perhaps you may have read John : : Hartung's essay on religious xenophobia and genocide in the OT : : (vol.3, no.4). : : You would probably argue that Jesus fulfilled the OT law and : : is therefore negated. However, this still doesn't change : : the fact that these kind of laws are barbaric and reprehensible. : : Even if these laws were negated later on, they are totally : : inconsistent with the idea of an omnibenevolent deity. Now : : compare the Mosaic Law with something like the Universal : : Declaration of Human Rights. Supposedly, one of these systems : : was inspired by an omnibenevolent deity, and another by sinful : : imperfect humans. Which system appears more benevolent to you? : : I should point out that there is a group called the Christian : : Reconstruction movement who think that the OT law should still : : be applied today. They believe that Jesus only fulfilled OT : : laws like circumcision, animal sacrifice, and dietary rules. : : From your writing you appear to be a very decent and tolerant : : person, so I can tell that you don't adhere to CR beliefs. : : - Jason : :

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