ORTK BULLETIN #4 (Organizing on the Internet) By Ed Komarek 5/11/95 INTERNET: Your ORTK internet organizers are hard at work. All we ask is that all you folks on our free membership and mailing list please be patient with us. We don't want to lose anybody. Because we are having to learn as we go along, we will be making mistakes. We are doing our best to protect privacy while at the same time allow for free and open exchanges. Our main membership list is in the process of being protected so that I and anybody else won't mail it out again--we hope. I really was lucky that the chunk of list in my computer was mailed out because last Monday the library computer here crashed my disk and everything on it was lost including the part of the mailing list I had. (I know I'm supposed to have a backup but we are still learning.) I lost maybe 15 members from last weekend so if you do not receive this in your email box, but see it posted someplace, please re-subscribe by emailing me Ed Komarek at: ekomarek@mail.public.lib.ga.us or subscribe directly to Laurent's listserve. I think you can now subscribe and unsubscribe directly on the listserve that Laurent has set up. We also have an ORTK awaiter address that Eric is handling. We will soon consolidate all the addresses together. We hope to do this after we get all the bugs in our mailing systems worked out. There is bound to be confusion until we get our membership and mailing list all in one place, either with the awaiter address or with the listserve. If you are getting double or triple mailings, let us know and we will try to work things out. Its quite possible with all the confusion that you might get dropped from the main list. If you go more than a week without getting a post it might be good to re-subscribe to Laurent's listserve. Check in with Laurent if you are having trouble. Remember, Ed here is still pretty computer illiterate. Included at the bottom of the Bulletin is a explanation from Laurent on what he has done with the listserve and how you can get on board. Hopefully, those of you that are more computer literate than the rest of us can work with him to perfect the system ORTK NEWSLETTER Dan Pinchas the editor of the ORTK Forum (our newsletter) reports that the ORTK Forum is now available to the regular membership and is on its way to Mark Hines our internet editor for posting at the internet site: http://www.duke.edu/~dpk/ortkinde.html The new newsletter is not there at the site yet but should be soon. New members that want more information on ORTK just click on the 1994 date on our internet page for the last newsletter. The best way to learn more about ORTK is to subscribe and we will send you our weekly bulletins to keep you up to date and informed. Thanks to Mark for editing this Bulletin #4. ALLEDGED ROSWELL ARCHIVAL FILM FOOTAGE I have received some questions from our members as to what's going on. Here, thanks to Patricia, is some material. Notice that ORTK's John Holman was there. Lets hope that his friend, ORTK internet member Paul, can get us some more information. [condensed] From: chrisw@odyssey.ody.com (chrisw) Mr. Ray Santilli invited media and researchers to a showing of the Roswell film at the Museum of London, on 5th May 1995. Colin Andrews flew to London from his Connecticut home to attend, having been invited to an earlier private viewing of some of the material in January this year. Colin has just returned to his UK office from London and sent this report: The meeting started at 1.00 PM, in the lecture theatre. We arrived at 12.30 PM. Many familiar faces were there, some as follows: George Wingfield Robert Irving Bob Kiviat (Fox/Paramount Films) Phillip Mantel (BUFORA) Michael Hesemann (Germany) Nick Pope (MOD - Ministry of Defence - UK Government) Carlton TV - UK BBC radio 1 - UK Daily Express UK NBC - USA Many other media Reg Presley (Troggs pop group and friend of Colin) Pete (Troggs) Ray Santilli (Film owner) Harry.... (Santilli's accountant) His office staff Researcher from Italy and Germany John Holman - UK Kent Jeofries - USA total approx. 100 Everybody was frisked and NO cameras or recorders, etc. were allowed inside the theatre. The showing started at 5 mins. past one with no introduction; the lights were simply turned off. The film started by saying: "The film you are about to see is taken from 16 mm original films on 3 minute-long canisters and was purchased from the person who filmed it. All copyright is with Merlin Communications Ltd." [Description of film:] At a table in a well-equipped [operating] theatre, two people in white outfits and hoods and visors over eyes (all-in-one suits) were inspecting the being. A third person was observing from behind a glass screen in the wall of the theatre; he/she was also wearing an outfit with a larger glass visor. One of the surgeons looked closely at the body and was gesturing where he/she would be cutting and pulling the legs apart inspecting the vagina. The female being had no breasts. It had five fingers and a thumb [6 digits] on each hand and RP says he counted six toes also (I could only see 5.) The ears were smaller than ours and located lower on the head than ours, level with the mouth. The head was larger (especially behind) and the eyes were larger, at least as big as golf balls. It had a small nose and small mouth, which was open. The body was very muscle-bound with very short, stocky legs and larger human-looking feet. The belly was very large and looked 8 month's pregnant, which it was not. The ears had the same major spiral trough as ours but was smooth and featureless above, more simple and basic than ours. The surgeon cut from below the neck/chin down to the vagina and I believe a tee-line outwards across the lower stomach. The chest and stomach were exposed and the heart removed and placed into a tray with other substances from around that immediate area. The lungs were removed from behind into another tray. The camera was handheld, and would on occasion move in close, losing focus in so doing. The flesh and attachments to the organs being removed were moving and responding to those actions in a very convincing manner -- as if real. There were small amounts of fluids running down the side of the body when the body was opened and organs removed. The colour of the liquid was dark and bloodlike. After the organs were cut out with a scalpel the surgeon cut a continuous line around the middle of the head and I think over the top, and peeled back the skin from rear to front over the eyes, revealing the scalp. He took a saw and cut across the head and removed the brain with other material and placed it into another tray. Before the brain procedure started the surgeon removed a black lens layer from each eye, revealing white eyes just like ours under it. The eyes had pupils like ours which were looking up into the head (as a deceased human would.) The single black layer of material was slightly disc-shaped to fit over the eye pupil. It was as if a filter lens/contact lens had been fitted into the eye. The right leg had a serious open wound, exposing the major bones from the lower part of the upper leg to middle calf area. The surgeon moved the leg, inspecting the joint. A large clock was on the wall to the side of the table and time I believe began at 10.30 and was seen again around 11.25. A wall-mounted telephone was visible, as were glass bottles and medical instruments. The body and procedures looked very authentic and in my opinion would have been hard to fake, but perhaps not impossible with current techniques. At the end of the film, the lights came on and with no comment people were expected to leave. I was talking with Nick Pope (MOD) when a large group gathered at the rear of the theatre around Ray Santilli and minders who were already saying he will not answer questions and [that] the photographer is 80 odd [years old] and does not want the questions and exposure. No other questions were answered and he was whisked out with the media and myself staying with him. I shook his hand earlier and he acknowledged me. I asked him as we all crowded around him, "Will you be seeing us in your office?" He said, "Yes, later." A TV interviewer said, "How am I supposed to interview you without being given access to any other material?" When I was interviewed by BBC radio 1 outside, they told me that BBC TV had purchased a small amount of film and would be showing it next month. It is believed that a major U.S. media company has made a bid. A fax bid was received on 3rd May from a group of Attornies in Washington representing an unnamed client (possibly U.S. Government) offering 1.8 million dollars for all materials to be returned to the USA. Mr. Takano (CA contact in Japan) faxed me in USA thanking me for my help putting them in touch with Santilli and said Santilli was going to fly to Hong Kong on ... May to show them the film. Update to follow later. 6th May 1995 - Colin Andrews UK. UPDATE ON THE LIST SERVE (Continued in 2/2) By Lawrence Levesque