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To: Elfwork <[e-mail]>

Elfwork wrote:
>
> In article <[e-mail]>, Daniel Dacey
> <[e-mail]> writes:
> >it is booting OK BUT not saving the rendered images!
> >It also seems to be rendering way to fast through the individual frames.
> >......
> > BTW the content dir and startup locations are OK for SN.
> My guess is that the last statement is false.
>
> The first two problems cited look like the result of 1.) not having the
> save path available on rendering nodes, and 2.)invalid pathnames for
> objects and images.
>
> What does the node say when loading a scene? (Are there any errors?)
>

Ok here goes:

Screamernet path settings (Launched from an Icon)
Target Location: Programs
Target: E:\Newtek\PROGRAMS\LWSN.EXE -2 e:\newtek\programs\job1 e:\newtek\programs\ack1
Start In: E:\Newtek\Programs

ScreamerNet Node Messages
-------------------------

*** On booting:
LightWave x86 ScreamerNet module 4.00j (29-Aug-95)
Current Directory is now "E:\Newtek".

Lightwave command: Init.

*** This Init command loops until I initialise ScreamerNet through Layout
*** After I have initialised I get the following message scrolling down the screen:

Lightwave command: wait.


*** After loading a scene and rendering it I get the following in the ScreamNet Window:

LightWave command: render.
Allocating frame buffer.
Allocating RGB buffers.
Allocating Z buffers.
Frame in progress: 69.
Updating images.
Transforming coordinates.
Removing hidden polygons.
Computing polygon distances.
Sorting polygons.
Rendering segment 1/4, pass 1/1.
Integrating pixels.
Rendering segment 2/4, pass 1/1.
Integrating pixels.
Rendering segment 3/4, pass 1/1.
Integrating pixels.
Rendering segment 4/4, pass 1/1.
Integrating pixels.
Frame completed.
Last frame rendered: 69.
Rendering time: 5 seconds.


This frame should take at least one minute to render and save. Help!



> Waiting for a rev. D patch........And so say I.

Cheers
Dan

___________________
Peppermint Graphics
Newcastle
Australia

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From: [e-mail]
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users here?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 06:04:11 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
>  Raydance is an Amiga based script based raytracing and animation package
>  with a combination of features unavailable on any other commercial 3d
>  package I know of(fractal 3d trees with texture mapped leaves, 3d
>  landscapes, programming language to control animation and other aspects of
>  rendering).  I use Raydance to supplement some features not on Lightwave or
>  Truespace.
>
    Interesting.  Can it export object in LWOB format???

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Will 3dsPRO kill Lightwave? NEWTEKS KILL
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On Sun 31-Dec-1995  3:05p, Christopher Stewart wrote:

CS> In a message dated 31 Dec 1995 02:24:05 [e-mail] writes:

CS> S> In both 3DS's and LW's cases, it would be possible to retain the
CS> S> net renderer as a 32-bit DOS app, while leaving the GUI as a Windows
CS> S> app.  This leverages the speed of DOS and the cost of memory on net
CS> S> rendering machines that is devoted to WinNT instead of rendering.

CS>      That would be a wonderful thing. I don't have enough ram in one
CS> of my machines (by a hair) and it sits idle when rendering complex
CS> scenes. ANYTHING to reduce the rather massive NT ram hit would
CS> be a saleable product in my books...

CS> Christopher

CS>      All these people calling each other morons. Well, you're all right.
CS> If
CS> you're stupid enough to crosspost infantile arguments to several
CS> inappropriate
CS> groups, you're certainly a moron, you and your friends. Learn to use your
CS> communications software (and get the hell out of
CS> comp.graphics.animation!).

CS> Best wishes on a smarter new year (after the brain transplant).

CS>                 **********************************************
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CS>       Soup      *      http://www.islandnet.com/~dretch      *      WWW
CS>    Animation    *   Home of the Lightwave 3D Search Engine   *    Training
CS>                 **********************************************


So what's this guy's problem anyway?????

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>   [e-mail] (Blake Porter) writes:
>  It's strange-- I get sleepy every time I work at my video desk top work
>  station. I wonder if others experience this? It seems when I stare at
>  the monitor for 15 min. and I feel like I'm watching the late late show.
>  (no my work is not boring)  I think it has something to do with the monitor.
>  Could there be a computer/monitor sleep syndrome?
>
>  Sleepy in Milwaukee

    Ergonomics is especially important for animators who can look forward to
a LOT of screen time.  What is the background BEHIND and AROUND your monitor?
Ideally, it should be approx the same brightness as the screen itself to prevent
your irises from constantly ramping open and shut.  I put a small light behind my
monitor to achieve this.  (Since I also do gaffing, this has the added bonus of
lookin' really cOoL.)

    Conversely, if there is a window or other bright area behind your monitor,
your eyes will suffer similarly.


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---------------------------------
I'm not revealing anything specific here though...  I don't think that
saying LW will have new features in the next release is an NDA
violation.
--------------------------------

But isn't revealing what is and isn't a NDA violation ITSELF a NDA
violation?!?


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From: [e-mail] (Joseph J Lawson)
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Subject: Re: logo ?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 96 05:29:56 GMT
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In article <4c7r9c$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (redfive) wrote:
>I'm trying to make a text logo. All the letters
>that have holes in them (i.e. O,A,P...) are solid.
>I can't see through the center of the O ect.. I know
>this is some stupid mistake I've made. Can anyone
>tell me why this happens
Not necessarily a stupid mistake...  I've noticed this with ALL my True
Type fonts on the PC version of LW.  What I do is using modeler, I
select all the polygons that are the open areas and cut them out, past
them into another layer, then extrude them.  I then move them
horizontally and use the boolean cut method to create a hole in the
actual font layer.  It's laborious, but it works.  If anyone else has a
thought or suggestion on how to avoid having to do this, I'm all ears.
 Is it a LW bug or something we're not setting right?

Good luck!  Joe Lawson, MontAnimation

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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users here?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 02:31:00 -0500
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> >  Raydance is an Amiga based script based raytracing and animation package
> >  with a combination of features unavailable on any other commercial 3d
> >  package I know of(fractal 3d trees with texture mapped leaves, 3d
> >  landscapes, programming language to control animation and other aspects of
> >  rendering).  I use Raydance to supplement some features not on Lightwave or
> >  Truespace.

Doesn't Real3D do this too?

Jeff

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From: [e-mail](Michael Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: AVIs at www.newtek.com ???
Date: 2 Jan 1996 07:24:01 GMT
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In <[e-mail]> Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]>
writes:
>
>you can d/l some AVI's from ftp.newtek.com
>
>look in the AVI section and incomming directories..they aren't
>the same AVI's that are on the www page..these are LW users
>showing off samples i think...


can you save a LW anim in LW 4.0 PC direct to a AVI anim file? thanks,
Mike



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From: [e-mail] (Mark Whitney)
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Subject: 32-bit Sequential TGA uti
Date: Mon,  1 Jan 1996 18:42:00 GMT
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What options are out on the market (shareware or public domain for that
matter) for assembling sequential TGA files output from Lightwave, that
can handle the long file names that LW 4 writes?  This is for an Intel
NT 3.51 system and outputing to AVI's or quicktime MOV files.

Thanx,

M.

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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users here?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 04:02:30 -0500
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On Jan 02, 1996 02:31:00 in article <Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users
here?>, 'Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>' wrote:


>> >  Raydance is an Amiga based script based raytracing and animation
package
>> >  with a combination of features unavailable on any other commercial 3d

>> >  package I know of(fractal 3d trees with texture mapped leaves, 3d
>> >  landscapes, programming language to control animation and other
aspects
>of
>> >  rendering).  I use Raydance to supplement some features not on
Lightwave
>or
>> >  Truespace.
>
>Doesn't Real3D do this too?

I don't know much about Real3d, except that it's on the PC as well. Does it
have a programming language for all of its functions?

--
M C L -

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Subject: Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users here?
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On Jan 02, 1996 06:04:11 in article <Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users
here?>, '[e-mail]' wrote:


>>   [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
>>  Raydance is an Amiga based script based raytracing and animation
package
>>  with a combination of features unavailable on any other commercial 3d
>>  package I know of(fractal 3d trees with texture mapped leaves, 3d
>>  landscapes, programming language to control animation and other aspects
of
>>  rendering).  I use Raydance to supplement some features not on
Lightwave or
>>  Truespace.
>>
>    Interesting.  Can it export object in LWOB format???

No. It can only import .geo(videoscape) format objects in the current
version. If you have an Amiga, you could pick up a demo version of Raydance
via ftp. I dunno how complete the demo is, but if the script files are
there, you will have a good idea of how the programming language is.
Personally I think it is pretty self documenting.

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From: [e-mail] (Bob Freel)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: FS: Intel LW, unregistered, modeler tapes & LWPro back issues
Date: Tue, 2 Jan 1996 00:54:25
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Hello -

I have an unregistered LW for NT/Windows for sale to the highest bidder. All
manuals included, dongle, even the little stickers.  Unregistered, good as new.

Also have Lightwave Modeler tapes 1 & 2 and Lightwave essentials -- these are
the 3.5 versions for the Amiga, still useful but missing some features.  And
the first 12 issues of Lightwave Pro.  I'd like to sell the whole mesugatz as
a package, but tell me whether you're offering for the whole or just parts.

I'm leaving town shortly & would like to conclude a deal by Friday if
possible.  Later responses may not be replied to.

Thank you.

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Also, I've got a 12 x 18 drawing pad, the Calcomp model, for the Amiga for
sale, all manuals, disks, etc.  Cordless pen, very nice, perfect condition.
Can be upgraded for other systems, but it has worked wonderfully on a 3000 & a
1200 for me.

Again, leaving town soon, offers sent by Friday would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.



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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: Re: What and how do you guys/gals charge for your work?????
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> Let me start by wishing you all a Happy New Year.
>
> Me and two other friends have started a company to produce
> Titles/Adverst and other types of media related work. We specially
> want to do our work on Lightwave.
>
> Up to now all my lightwave work was done for pleasure and I never
> really gave the professional life much thought. But Its now getting
> serious.
>
> What I'd like to know is how do you peple charge:
> i.e. per frame, per sec, or per project.
>
> And if you could give me some prices, like the ones you charge, I
> would be most grateful.

I charge between 200-400UKP per day depending on who's buying.

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From: [e-mail] (C Mak)
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Subject: Ack! Help! Saving Animations
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Help!!

I finally got my copy of Lightwave 3D for Intel today (after months of
agonizing!!) and I've been sifting through the manuals and varioius
tutorials.  I've come to an dead stop when it comes to saving the
animations.  While the manual tells me to go to the Saving Animations
buttons and choose the type of animation, I have no such option.  I
have NONE as the type of animations available to me.  As a result I
cannot save any of my simple animations.  What do I do?  Have I not
installed the right stuff?  I have installed the Win 32s that were on
the CD and I am running it on Win 3.11 with 16 meg RAM.

Any help would be appreciated.

Chris


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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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> >> >  package I know of(fractal 3d trees with texture mapped leaves, 3d
> >> >  landscapes, programming language to control animation and other

> >Doesn't Real3D do this too?

Yes.  So does the Vertex Modeler, (an often overlooked but not
altogether bad way to do some modeling tasks - and it can read and write
several zillion file formats, so you can use it to convert objects
between different 3D programs).

> I don't know much about Real3d, except that it's on the PC as well. Does it
> have a programming language for all of its functions?

Yes.  It has RPL for internal use and ARexx for being driven from the
outside world.

  - steve

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From: [e-mail] (Iain Young)
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[e-mail](Michael Mitchell) wrote:

>In <[e-mail]> Lance Gray <[e-mail]> writes:
>>
>>Being a new PC user I have a question concerning the ClubToaster CD
>>and LightWAve for the PC...
>>
>>I have the ClubToaster Cd's for my Flyer and I've noticed the moving
>>backgrounds and such also come in IFF format...Because of this, I've
>>tried to use them as a background sequence on my Pentium 100.  Here's
>>my problem:
>>
>>    When I try to access these files from LightWave I get--->
>>
>>Cannot access this file...Please verify security privileges on the
>>network drive????
>>
>>So I decided to copy the images to my harddrive---for that matter even

>>trying to copy objects off the CD I get the following message:
>>
>>STOP---File manager cannot copy D:\background\iff\whatever...
>>
>>File manager cannot find the specific file...Make sure the correct
>>path & filename are specified.
>>
>>
>>
>>---I'm pretty sure the correct ones are specified---since I just
>>created a new directory file and I'm trying to copy the images over to

>>my harddrive into this new directory----Any suggestions????   This is
>>a breeze to do on my A4000, is there some good reason why it doesn't
>>work on my PC????
>>



>I have the same problem!, I started out with club toaster on my amiga,
>but have now switched to a PC and would like to access the iff and
>object files on the club toaster disk? anyone know how? Dave??

>thanks, Mike


Just a thought, (I don't have the cd so I don't know for sure), but
perhaps the problem is that the files are stored on the cd in a
directory with a long file name. If you are running MSDOS 6.22 /
Windows 3.11 or below, the OS doesn't seem to be able to copy the
files. The only way I found around it was to install Win95/NT on the
machine, (I have some cd's with this problem and they work fine now
with the new OS).

Hope this helps,
Iain Young
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From: [e-mail] (David Ingebretsen)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Will 3dsPRO kill Lightwave?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 15:36:19 GMT
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Stranahan ([e-mail]) wrote:
: ---------------------------------
: I'm not revealing anything specific here though...  I don't think that
: saying LW will have new features in the next release is an NDA
: violation.
: --------------------------------
:
: But isn't revealing what is and isn't a NDA violation ITSELF a NDA
: violation?!?

Saying something is NOT an NDA violation shouldn't be a problem. Depending
on the exact wording, saying something IS an NDA violation might be one.

--
David

David M. Ingebretsen             *** Binary Illusions / 3D Physics ***
[e-mail]            ***       Animation and more      ***

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From: [e-mail] (Blake Porter)
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T-Test

Hey Joe!

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: logo ?
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On Tue  2-Jan-1996  5:29a, Joseph J Lawson wrote:
JL> In article <4c7r9c$[e-mail]>,
JL>    [e-mail] (redfive) wrote:
JL> >I'm trying to make a text logo. All the letters
JL> >that have holes in them (i.e. O,A,P...) are solid.
JL> >I can't see through the center of the O ect.. I know
JL> >this is some stupid mistake I've made. Can anyone
JL> >tell me why this happens
JL> Not necessarily a stupid mistake...  I've noticed this with ALL my True
JL> Type fonts on the PC version of LW.  What I do is using modeler, I
JL> select all the polygons that are the open areas and cut them out, past
JL> them into another layer, then extrude them.  I then move them
JL> horizontally and use the boolean cut method to create a hole in the
JL> actual font layer.  It's laborious, but it works.  If anyone else has a
JL> thought or suggestion on how to avoid having to do this, I'm all ears.
JL>  Is it a LW bug or something we're not setting right?

JL> Good luck!  Joe Lawson, MontAnimation


This is why I prefer to use Pixel Pro. I never have this problem. Also
something I checked out the other day, is that Pixel seems to be the *only*
program that I've seen to do actual TRUE beveling. On everything else, when
you do a bevel it ALWAYS just makes the object bigger which in my book sucks.
When I do a bevel with Pixel only the bevel changes size, not the object.

I know I went a little off course, but as you can see I LOVE pixel......md :)

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From: [e-mail] (Marlon Beltz)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: NT-SGI Screamernetting
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 21:01:58 GMT
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Could someone who has successfully done the above please respond by
email to me.

The hurdle I want to get over is that the path name for saves is
hard-coded into the scene file.  NT's path is:

s:renders/cohen

whereas SGI's path to the same thing is:

/nfs/Dog/s/renders/cohen

I know I can use the relative path option off of the Newtek directory,
but I want to save files to a complete different HD.  Is there a
option like 'assign' on Amigas in UNIX that would allow me to assign
s: to that path?

BTW, why is there no way for screamernet to occasionally check to see
if new CPU's have come online since they were initiated?

Please reply by email if possible.

Thanks in advance.

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BTW,It seems that at all of the Computer shows (local) they are
selling tons of Postscript fonts on CD for $5.00 a disk.I bought 3
last week,and now I have no truetype errors.
So keep your eyes open.

Wayne




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Subject: Re: Stranahan & NewTek
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 S> This was all discussed at length on this Newsgroup when the decision was
 S> originally announced a few months ago.


Lee, thanks now I understand where you're coming from...  I agree,  NewTek
seems to think those spending far more on their computer system, should also
spend far more on LightWave for that platform.

OTOH, doesn't the Alpha version of LW include some other expensive products
that offset the additional cost somewhat?


<ICS>


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 SH> Lightwave is a stunning product. I'm amazed every time I use it. But
 SH> people get pissed off when even the best product is seen as being
 SH> delayed, or that your promises of release dates keep getting pushed
 SH> back.

Marketing, cash flow, and stock holders are a software development team's
worst nightmare.  These groups demand release dates be set months in advance
and software design is expected to meet them with little consultation I'm
sure.

I wonder if Allan & Stuart could openly discuss their feelings on this?  Were
they asked how long it would take?  Were they given the time necessary?

I doubt it...

And a really big point is this; Software development is more of an art than a
science.  These large applications are works of art, not engineered
production line assemblies.  How can you dictate a time frame for creative
endeavors?

Do artists work to timetables?  Actually, we all have deadlines as animators.

But that only proves my point.  How often do you get the time you really need
to finish an animation project?  Pretty rare isn't it.

Its very difficult to stamp completion dates on a project where you don't
know have the battles you'll face.  Software development is very much a `seat
of the pants endeavor.'


 SH> Too much of it causes abandonment by the user base.


It may happen that missed release dates hurt a products reputation, but I'd
rather have a delayed finished product than enter a yearly update schedule
(with upgrade fees) as has happened with so many PC products.  Marketing sets
a timetable, software development often can't meet it, and so the product is
released with known bugs.  Do we want LW to go that route?  I think not...

A few weeks, or months delay is less frustrating, than many hours spent
redoing work that has crashed, been lost, or rendered badly.  The current
version is adequate till the next can be released in a finished state.

OTOH, when know bugs are fixed, patch files made available through the
Internet should be released as soon as possible.  Instead of making everyone
work around known bugs till the next release.


 SH> Despite these missed target dates, keep up the good work, Stuart.

I agree completely.  Allen and Stuart are to be congradulated on an excellent
piece of software that has helped change the face of 3D animation.  As NewTek
has done with desktop video.


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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: What does the Object Replace plug-in actually do?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:55:54 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
>  For both image and object sequences, is there a way to control the delay
>  between each image or object, other than using lots of dupes.

    You're getting it wrong  - the way to delay objects is to NOT use
dupes.  To switch an object/image once in 200 frames, you only need IMAGE001.IFF
and, say, IMAGE137.IFF, with nothing in between.

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Subject: Re: Is anyone using Real 3D ?
Date: 2 Jan 1996 17:59:00 GMT
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>   [e-mail] (David Ingebretsen) writes:
>  Sure. I still use LightWave for its ease of compositing. You could
>  render some very nice sequences in Real and use LW to combine
>  them. I've actually done it on occasion.

    Thanx, David.  Sounds like R3d could be a complementary program to LW.
Is it still Amiga-bound?

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From: [e-mail] (Douglas Rudd)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
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Elliot Bain <[e-mail]> writes:

<Snip>
>The final chapter is yet to be written.

Agreed. I just would not want to be the person who has to pay
the legal fees to write that chapter. ;-)

Doug Rudd

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From: Prem Subrahmanyam <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: logo ?
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Joseph J Lawson wrote:
>
> In article <4c7r9c$[e-mail]>,
>    [e-mail] (redfive) wrote:
> >I'm trying to make a text logo. All the letters
> >that have holes in them (i.e. O,A,P...) are solid.
> >I can't see through the center of the O ect.. I know
> >this is some stupid mistake I've made. Can anyone
> >tell me why this happens
> Not necessarily a stupid mistake...  I've noticed this with ALL my True
> Type fonts on the PC version of LW.  What I do is using modeler, I
> select all the polygons that are the open areas and cut them out, past
> them into another layer, then extrude them.  I then move them
> horizontally and use the boolean cut method to create a hole in the
> actual font layer.  It's laborious, but it works.  If anyone else has a
> thought or suggestion on how to avoid having to do this, I'm all ears.
>  Is it a LW bug or something we're not setting right?
>
> Good luck!  Joe Lawson, MontAnimation

This is a bug in how LW reads the TT fonts.  PS fonts actually
work fine...actually have the holes cut in them as they should
be.  Hopefully this will be fixed in the next update...btw,
I wonder when that will be?

--Prem
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Prem Subrahmanyam
[e-mail]
Home Page: http://www-wane.scri.fsu.edu/~prems
Programmer, graphics designer, fossil nut extraordinaire.
"Have you hugged your Cretaceous ammonites today?"

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From: Prem Subrahmanyam <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: anyone have trouble with changing edit fields in Win95 Lightwave?
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 12:44:27 -0500
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John Gross wrote:
>
> Jon Fabris ([e-mail]) wrote:
> : I can't seem to change any of the edit field values in Lightwave.
> : For instance, the custom size width & height values in the Camera panel,
> : or the port name, & frame record delay in the Record panel. If I change
> : this values, it seems to let me change them, but when I close the Record
> : panel (or Camera panel) the values snap back to their defaults. - If I
> : open the Record panel again, the values are back to the way they were.
>
> Hit Return after entering new values.
>
> JG

Or Tab.

--Prem
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Prem Subrahmanyam
[e-mail]
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"Have you hugged your Cretaceous ammonites today?"

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From: Jeff Jasper <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users here?
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> I don't know much about Real3d, except that it's on the PC as well. Does it
> have a programming language for all of its functions?

I know it has it's own built in programmimng language, it also runs on
Amiga, MIPS NT, Alpha NT as well as PC NT,95, 3.1x

Jeff

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From: [e-mail] (Ken Schmitt)
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Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Lightwave
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>  1. When loading a scene, and Layout can't find some data,
>     it would be nice if there was an ABORT button between
>     OK / CANCEL. It gets old hitting cancel 100 times to abort
>     a scene load.

in that same vein, how about a primitive search engine (optionally
enabled/disabled) that'd LOOK for the files if it cant find them,
checking first in the last dirrectory used.
if it cant find them, then you are asked for a root search path, to be
as explicit as you need.... but only on the first one, after that, if
it shared the same device and path, it wouldt bother you again.

so itd hunt the drive a few times.... weve had to do that once or
twice anyways.




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From: [e-mail]
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Subject: Connecting Amiga to PC
Date: 2 Jan 1996 19:13:15 GMT
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    I've read that connecting a PC to an Amiga is possible through a null
modem cable, but I haven't found out what specific software is neccessary.

I'm trying to move large amounts of images and objects from an Amiga with
Workbench 2.0 to a PC with Windows 95 and NT.

Thanks,

Kent Nelson




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From: [e-mail] ()
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Subject: Re: Ack! Help! Saving Animations
Date: 2 Jan 1996 22:05:05 GMT
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C Mak ([e-mail]) wrote:
: Help!!
: tutorials.  I've come to an dead stop when it comes to saving the
: animations.  While the manual tells me to go to the Saving Animations
: buttons and choose the type of animation, I have no such option.  I
: have NONE as the type of animations available to me.  As a result I
: cannot save any of my simple animations.  What do I do?  Have I not
:
: Any help would be appreciated.
:
: Chris


Last I heard the animations thing was an Amiga only function.

Regards,
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Jan-Willem Korver)
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Subject: Re: Explosion!
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In <4bvfm8$[e-mail]> Monte Nothelfer
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>Who makes a tape or book that explains how to make groovy explosions?>

Get yourself the "Pyrotechniques" tape from Desktop Images.

I guess that's exactly what you're looking for.

Regards,

Jan-Willem
---
[e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Furlong)
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Subject: n-gon Importing into Lightwave
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 16:18:38 -0600
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Is there any way to import n-gon models into Lightwave? I've tried to
import a model via 3DS but it auto-triangulated the model.  Is OBJ
triangulated as well?

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Justin Austin)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NewTek's Object Replacement plugin
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On Jan 02, 1996 02:55:24 in article <NewTek's Object Replacement plugin>,
'[e-mail] (robert hood)' wrote:


>I've posted a copy of NewTek's elusive Object Replacement plugin (missing
>from the most recent LightWave CD-ROM release) to my anonymous FTP
>site:
>
>ftp.netcom.com:/pub/bh/bhood/plugins/objseq.zip
>
>Enjoy.
>
bless you
bless you
bless you
bless you

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We have 4-5 more copies of Lightwave 4.0 for Intel left in stock right
now.  We'll sell at $765 each.  We're an Authorized Dealer.


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|>[e-mail] (Stranahan) wrote:
|>
|>>-------------------------------------
|>>It's actually called 3DS MAX and only cost about $3,500 and ships with
|>>practically all the plug-ins you'll need built in. I doubt NewTek is
|>>going under anytime soon, Lightwave 4.0 has been a BIG boost for them.
|>>-------------------------------------
|>
|>
|>Actually 3DS MAX released that they were not going to ship the plugins
|>built-in and are selling them seperate.. like the acclaimed Bi-ped
|>which we all were hoping would come with but the greedy bastards now
|>want more money.. They did it with 3DS and to do it now with this
|>product I think is Assinine..  If they were going to do plugin support
|>like this they should have grouped like Alias has it.. Oh well.. my 2c
|>gripe ;)
|>
|>
|>      --Andy
|>
   Well if they got away with it with 3DS(they did, still are) why is it
   Assinine to think they can't with Max. With all the raving on how good it
   is, my guess is they will have no problem. Lightwave is easy , powerfull
    and still very young in the 3D market. Gee I don't see 3DsPro, 3DsSpeed,
   our any other equivalents to LWPro, LightSpeed out there. I do see tons
   of books but figure they are needed to support the large pirate market.
   With Plugin capability(of course 3.5 Amiga still waiting) in 4.0, growing
    3rd party support and still cost effective I think LW will manage to stay
   alive. But then again theres always a herd of sheep willing to run over
   the cliff :-)

    -bill

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From: Jeff Walker <[e-mail]>
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PC Par with 1.2gig drive, and decimation chip ( Allows upgrade to non
linear video editing systems ) PLUS Lightwave 4.0 all for $1700.

All associated materials included.

act quickly, at these prices they will go quickly...

Jeff

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Subject: Re: What and how do you guys/gals charge for your work?????
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:16:44 -0800
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> What I'd like to know is how do you peple charge:
> i.e. per frame, per sec, or per project.
>
> And if you could give me some prices, like the ones you charge, I
> would be most grateful.
>
> In fact any help would be most appriciated.
>
> Regards
>
> Boback Shahsafdari
> Imagenet Ltd.
> [e-mail]


Boback:

You have sutmbled on one of the toughest questions facing a new business. (or an old one for that matter.) When
I first started doing graphic profesionaly I charged by the finished second. That, I quickly learned was not
the way to go. Some one can come to you and say, "I need a 5 second Flying logo to start over there and end
over here, and I don't really care what it looks like." This may take you ten minutes of work (plus rendering)
not bad you earned your money. Your next client however will invaribly want, "a 5 second Flying logo that
starts as a pool of molten metal, then energy beems shoot out as the metal forms the letters, then explodes
into a milloin peices." don't laugh it happend to me. Same 5 Seconds but this one will take a week (plus
rendering).
I find it better to charge by the project based on a Day-Rate. I charge $300 per day (or any part thereof).
Figure howmany days it will take you, then add two. Then add any aditional charges, like scanning of logos at
the local comp store. It may take a while to figure out what you should be charging per day, but if you do a
job and you fell like you got screwed, raise the rate. To start with I would not charge less than $100 per day.
If you find that you have trouble getting clients then lower it.

Last peice of advice never waver on your rate. never be afraid to reject a client if he cant afford you. just
tell them that perhaps they should find someone else. if you lower your rate of give discounts, you will never
be able to charge full price to that client again.

Brad Hayes

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>and when you factor in the REALLY
> stupid idea they originally had of only selling LightWave with
> Deskstation's Alpha machines you get a very unpopular decision.

Lee:

They actualy thought that! Maybe you could shed some light on something for me. Why does it seem that NewTek
can be so strong in some areas like product develpoment and blithering idiots in others like anaoncing the
Flyer almost (let's seen) 3 years befor it was ready?

Brad Hayes

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From: [e-mail] (Brett Tribble)
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Subject: Proposed changes to Lightwave
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I would like to get input on everyone's thoughts regarding where new
features should be discussed. Stuart, if there is discussion here, will
you be able to take time from your loaded schedule to comment? Is there
anyone maintaining a list of proposed feature changes, and the potential
for the same to be implemented? Once upon a time I attended Newtek-U, and
had a wonderfull focus group with other dealers (was one once), and some
of the folks from Newtek (Claude St. Germain, et al). This was the first
time that I felt that Newtek was _listening_. Later I learned that the
suggestions we made never reached anyone of importance (ie. Stuart,
Allen). What is everyones feeling on the proper forum for such topics?

Jumping the gun a little, here are a few features that I would like to see
(out of an increasingly long list).

  1. When loading a scene, and Layout can't find some data,
     it would be nice if there was an ABORT button between
     OK / CANCEL. It gets old hitting cancel 100 times to abort
     a scene load.

  2. Put a radio button (check box) in the effects menu to
     disable antialiasing the background / foreground images.
     again it gets old watching it waste time ($$$!) anti-
     aliasing a clean image.

  3. Durring the initial stages of rendering, have the renderer
     check to see if there is any change between frames
     (envelopes, motion graphs, et al). If there _isn't_, flag
     duplicate frames so that Lightwave just saves multiple
     copies of the resulting duplicate images. This would result
     in _MAJOR_ time savings for much of our rendering. I know
     that this can effectively be done in editing, but I would
     rather have it done while I sleep.

I would like to get some input on some of this!

Brett Tribble
Production Director
Renderhaus
<A HREF=http://www.renderhaus.com/></A>





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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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Subject: Re: Ack! Help! Saving Animations
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In article <4cb6kd$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (C Mak) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (C Mak)
>Subject: Ack! Help! Saving Animations
>Date: Mon, 01 Jan 1996 11:52:12 GMT

>Help!!

>I finally got my copy of Lightwave 3D for Intel today (after months of
>agonizing!!) and I've been sifting through the manuals and varioius
>tutorials.  I've come to an dead stop when it comes to saving the
>animations.  While the manual tells me to go to the Saving Animations
>buttons and choose the type of animation, I have no such option.  I
>have NONE as the type of animations available to me.

All the anim savers are implemented as plug-ins. You must...

a) move the plugins from the CD to the plugins/layout directory (I don't
remember whether this happens automatically during setup); then,

b) initialize the plugins through the Options panel in Layout.

If you intend to save .avi choose the NT_AVI plug-in. Forget the HIIP stuff.

You're going to have to load and initialize all the modeller plugins, too.

I'm pretty sure this is covered in a readme file on the CD.


Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: Daryl Stultz <[e-mail]>
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<[e-mail]> writes:

>    I've read that connecting a PC to an Amiga is possible through a null
>modem cable, but I haven't found out what specific software is neccessary.

Try TWIN EXPRESS/ I use it and it works well, but slow (16KB/sec) It has
both Amiga and DOS files and docs to make the cable.

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>Does anyone know for sure what plans newtek have for lw on the amiga?

Y'know, there's some interesting reading about LW developement at the AMG
(LIGHTWAVEPRO publishers) Web site.

Article (link) entitled: "The Future of LightWave"

http://www.portal.com/~amg/lwp/semiar2.html

>** kurt, [e-mail]


 God bless you
(and your Amiga)
-Kip



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    I read that the M&M commercials with that 2 characters
were made in lightwave. It sure looked like it was made on an
sgi machine. The animators in Will Vinton studios sure did a good
job.

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Model Masters has a new collection of 14 Japanese & European
auto models.  Some are complete with simple interiors.  The average model has
6-7000 polys.  Check them out on our web site & give us some feedback.

For the month of January we are offering a special package price for the
entire collection.  Call for details.
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[e-mail] (Ken Schmitt) wrote:

> in that same vein, how about a primitive search engine (optionally
> enabled/disabled) that'd LOOK for the files if it cant find them,
> checking first in the last dirrectory used.

That'd be nice... In the meantime I've found this helpful.

I assume Win95/NT has something akin to:

  assign LWObjs:  mydir2 objects/houses/big objects/houses/small ADD

Then anything looking for LWObjs:Myobject will search the given
directories.  If another one comes along later, just:

  assign LWObjs:  mumble/tree_objects ADD

etc.

Now the problem is that there doesn't seem to be a convention for how
objects should be saved: some people use absolute paths, some use
relative paths, some use paths relative to Lightwave's home "3D:", and
some use assigns such as the above.  If you stick to the above
convention, adding new object directories later is trivial, but loading
someone *else's* project may not be.  In this case, the scene files are
just ASCII and you can run 'em through emacs and replace everything with
LWObjs: as above.

I think the real problem is the lack of a convention.  There's no point
to having LW duplicate a search engine when OSs have perfectly good
search engines built in, IMHO.

  - steve

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From: [e-mail] (Steve Koren)
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Subject: Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users here?
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[e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) wrote:

> >Yes.  So does the Vertex Modeler, (an often overlooked but not

> Is Vertex Modeler for the PC and is it freeware or shareware? If not, how

No, it is commercial, but not too expensive.  I got it just for the
trees (which are very nice), way back about 3-4 years ago, and the other
features came along as a bonus, more or less.  I don't think it has been
ported to Windows yet, at least that I've heard of, but you might check
around.

> Are "RPL" files binary or text? I'm curious about how difficult the
> programming language is.

Text.  It isn't difficult to learn.  Supposedly it is simimlar to the
language the HP48 calculator uses, although not having an HP48 I
wouldn't know myself.

> Are there WWW or FTP sites for Real 3d? Is there a demo version of  Real3D
> out there?

Yes: either ftp.win.net or ns1.win.net.  Sometimes one or both seems not
to work.  There is no demo that I know of, but that doesn't mean much.

  - steve

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On 01-01-96, JOSEPH was going on about Re: logo ?

JJ>From: [e-mail] (Joseph J Lawson)
  >In article <4c7r9c$[e-mail]>,
  >   [e-mail] (redfive) wrote:
  >>I'm trying to make a text logo. All the letters
  >>that have holes in them (i.e. O,A,P...) are solid.
  >>I can't see through the center of the O ect.. I know
  >>this is some stupid mistake I've made. Can anyone
  >>tell me why this happens
  >Not necessarily a stupid mistake...  I've noticed this with ALL my
  >True Type fonts on the PC version of LW.  What I do is using modeler,
  >I select all the polygons that are the open areas and cut them out,
  >past them into another layer, then extrude them.  I then move them
  >horizontally and use the boolean cut method to create a hole in the
  >actual font layer.  It's laborious, but it works.  If anyone else has
  >a thought or suggestion on how to avoid having to do this, I'm all
  >ears.  Is it a LW bug or something we're not setting right?
  >


Ah, so it's NOT just me then.  I assumed the problem was due to the
fonts I was experimenting with.

Ya, if someone has more info on this I'd certainly appreciate hearing
about it.

M.

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From: [e-mail] (Maniac)
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   Adam Chrystie <[e-mail]> wrote:

>
>   I would argue that LW is fairly new to the "greater world" of 3D
animation and has
>not had time to make an impact as programs like 3DS, topas, strata
pro, electric
>image..etccc.
>
>
Not Really, we're talking professional Video/Film Animation versus
Games here.. 3ds hasn't been used alot of that..


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Please, can You give me some information about how to order "The FX Kit
forLightwave" !
Note that I'm from Croatia, Europe !
                                                     Thanks !

 E-mail: [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
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On Jan 02, 1996 09:57:03 in article <Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users
here?>, '[e-mail] (Steve Koren)' wrote:

>> >> >  package I know of(fractal 3d trees with texture mapped leaves, 3d

>> >> >  landscapes, programming language to control animation and other
>
>> >Doesn't Real3D do this too?
>
>Yes.  So does the Vertex Modeler, (an often overlooked but not
>altogether bad way to do some modeling tasks - and it can read and write
>several zillion file formats, so you can use it to convert objects
>between different 3D programs).

Is Vertex Modeler for the PC and is it freeware or shareware? If not, how
much is it? :'(

>> I don't know much about Real3d, except that it's on the PC as well. Does
it
>> have a programming language for all of its functions?
>
>Yes.  It has RPL for internal use and ARexx for being driven from the
>outside world.

Are "RPL" files binary or text? I'm curious about how difficult the
programming language is.

Are there WWW or FTP sites for Real 3d? Is there a demo version of  Real3D
out there?

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Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: What does the Object Replace plug-in actually do?
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On Jan 02, 1996 17:55:54 in article <Re: What does the Object Replace
plug-in actually do?>, '[e-mail]' wrote:


>>   [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
>>  For both image and object sequences, is there a way to control the
delay
>>  between each image or object, other than using lots of dupes.
>
>    You're getting it wrong  - the way to delay objects is to NOT use
>dupes.  To switch an object/image once in 200 frames, you only need
>IMAGE001.IFF
>and, say, IMAGE137.IFF, with nothing in between.

Thanks a lot! That'll save me a LOT of work.

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Blake Porter wrote:
>
> It's strange-- I seem to get overly tired while working at my Video desk
> top station.  Not long after beginning my work (which is NOT boring) I
> begin to feel like I'm watching the late late show. Does this happen to
> anyone else?  I think the monitor is at fault. Perhaps there is a
> computer/monitor syndrome.


Yes, This is one of those new hidden features in LightWave that leak
out every now and then.

I believe Stuart and the guys at NewTek are referring to it as the
GHASN or the Global Hypnotized Animator Screamer Network. I'm not
quite sure what it does but it looks really cool! There's a key
combination is to disable it, but I forget.


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> |>Actually 3DS MAX released that they were not going to ship the plugins
> |>built-in and are selling them seperate.. like the acclaimed Bi-ped
> |>which we all were hoping would come with but the greedy bastards now
> |>want more money.. They did it with 3DS and to do it now with this
> |>product I think is Assinine..  If they were going to do plugin support
> |>like this they should have grouped like Alias has it.. Oh well.. my

AutoDesk never claimed to be shipping BiPed with MAX, they didn't even
develop BiPed. AutoDesk is STILL throwing in a whole group of the Yost
disks into 3DS including lens flares, glows, highlights, optimize and
many more, plus all the new features specific to MAX. 3DS has the same
plug-in support that Lightwave does, if not better. Currently there are
well over two hundred plug-ins for 3DS, and most companies will have
their MAX plug-ins ready by the time it ships.

>    Well if they got away with it with 3DS(they did, still are) why is it
>    Assinine to think they can't with Max. With all the raving on how good it
>    is, my guess is they will have no problem. Lightwave is easy , powerfull
>     and still very young in the 3D market. Gee I don't see 3DsPro, 3DsSpeed,
>    our any other equivalents to LWPro, LightSpeed out there. I do see tons
>    of books but figure they are needed to support the large pirate market.
>    With Plugin capability(of course 3.5 Amiga still waiting) in 4.0, growing
>     3rd party support and still cost effective I think LW will manage to stay
>    alive. But then again theres always a herd of sheep willing to run over
>    the cliff :-)

AutoDesk isn't getting away with anything, they have always been very
vocal about letting 3rd party groups worry about plug-ins. It is getting
a lot of rave reviews cause in in Beta it looks like an incredible
program. Lightwave is far from being young in the animation market, hell
when did Toaster first come out, wasn't it before 3DS? There is a huge
wealth of 3DS stuff on tape and has been for a while now. Don't tapes
serve the same purpose as books when it comes to pirates learning how to
use their cracked versions? Now that Lightwave is on the PC you will,
and probably already have seen an increase in the number of posts
looking for Lightwave cracks. I see NewTek thriveing with Lightwave well
into the immediate future, but I hardly think users of other programs
are sheep. I have never had the urge to graze while using Alias.

Jeff

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From: [e-mail] (T0pJimmy)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Networking Win95 to WinNT
Date: 2 Jan 1996 21:40:24 -0500
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Hello all,
I'm using Lightwave Intel and Alpha and I'm having technical difficulties,
but not with Lightwave. I'm having difficulty getting my two Lightwave
boxes to talk to each other. I'm posting to this newsgroup because I can't
seem to get any help from anywhere else and I'm hoping someone else out
there has had to configure a similar type of setup. I dread the
possibility of having to call Microsoft Networking tech- support.

To start with the two systems in question:

1 Pentium 100
   Win 95
   Ether16 LAN Card
   Cable connection

1 Alpha 21164
   Win NT Workstation
   Cogent EM960 PCI Adapter
   Cable connection

My goal is to simply have complete access to each box no matter which seat
I'm at. I also have an HP 660c connected to my Win95 that would be nice to
print to from NT.

After much hair pulling I've decided the best way to setup the boxes would
be to start from scratch (meaning network settings) and remove all
protocols and services from both boxes. Now I need to know the procedure
for connection. Such as:

Which protocols and services are best to install and configure on each box
(I realize they need to be the same, but do I need more than 1 protocol on
each machine)? And when I say "configure" I'm talking about maybe having
to setup some kind of IP address and subnet mask (if so, I haven't a clue
what to use for #'s).

After protocols and services, I believe I need to set up Users and
accounts or something, and I'm not sure the best naming procedure to
employ on each individual box (meaning, do I need to log on to my win95
using the same User name that I set up on the NT machine). Will I have to
do any actual file editing to make any of this work or will the setup
boxes take care of all that?

On the Win95 box do I setup for "Windows Logon" or "Client for Microsoft
Networks"?

If I share my drives do I also have to "map" them? And if the drives are
setup for sharing do I still need to setup sharing for individual
directories?

Working with these systems for the past week, I have only been able
,occasionally, to see my Win95 computer in the shared directories box of
the file managers "Connect Network Drive" submenu on the NT box. Even then
I couldn't see my shared directories. I've never yet seen the NT box in my
Win95 network neighborhood. The setup diagnostic of the ether16 card says
it's connecting to something so I don't think the cards are having
conflicts.

After recently connecting 2 Win95 machines very easily, this situation is
really aggravating. Any possible help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Jim Guyon
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (Lawrence Wilson)
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Subject: System Requirements for LW4.0 Amiga
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What are the system requirements for Lightwave 4.0 for the Amiga? I have
an Amiga 500 w/4 Megs 16-bit ram, 1 Meg 32-bit GVP RAM and an unactivated
Fatter Agnus, and a 170MB GVP A530 accelerator unit. Is this a
satisfactory setup to run any versionm of Lightwave?


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From: [e-mail] (Paul D. Godley)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Ack! Help! Saving Animations
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:31:42 GMT
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[e-mail] (C Mak) wrote:

>Help!!

>I finally got my copy of Lightwave 3D for Intel today (after months of
>agonizing!!) and I've been sifting through the manuals and varioius
>tutorials.  I've come to an dead stop when it comes to saving the
>animations.

snip

If you've got the extra $, Adobe Premiere does a really good job of
creating anims. I use LW to save out the individual frames, then
import them into Premiere. Once there, you can do all kinds of editing
anims together, transitions etc. Pretty cool. I've never actually
tried to save an anim directly from PC LW.

-Paul
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[e-mail]                  PO Box 51637
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From: [e-mail] (Paul D. Godley)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Tracing bitmaps into LW objects
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 04:35:30 GMT
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I need to find a reliable way to trace bitmaps (2 color, scanned logo
kind of things) into LW objects. Anyone done this? Have any
suggestions. I have Adobe Streamline which will trace and create a
DXF, but it's not a DXF LW will import. (Give an error of, I think,
MEM_ALLOC_ZERO or some such.)

BTW this is on a PC.

Thanks,

-Paul
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[e-mail]                  PO Box 51637
http://www.wp.com/momentum          Durham, NC 27717


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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
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+-- [e-mail] (James Jones/Nibbles and Bits) writes:
| [e-mail] said:
| >If you have the rev D CD-ROM, you're golden.  If you need an update,
| >contact tech-support and ask them for it.  They should be able to
| >point you to a BBS or FTP location for a patch.
|
|    There's a rev D?
|    I haven't seen the release of *rev C* yet...

It turns out that what I was calling rev D is in fact rev C.  Forget
I said anything about rev D.

|    Based on experience, I am, sorry to say, a bit skeptical of
| getting anything from tech support...

I have been told that they are working on making a patch available
on-line.  I'll inform you if I hear when it exists.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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+-- [e-mail] (John Foust) writes:
| In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
| >If you have the rev D CD-ROM, you're golden.  If you need an update,
| >contact tech-support and ask them for it.
|
| I believe the latest CD is actually marked "Rev C" that contains
| what you describe as "Rev D".  As I understand it, what you call
| "Rev C" was never actually shipped to customers.

I stand corrected.

| What is NewTek's policy about bug-fix upgrades from Rev X to the
| latest revision?

There will be on-line patches made available, but I'm not the one making
them, so I can't tell you when or where.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: Manuel Coats <[e-mail]>
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On Wed, 3 Jan 1996, Ivan Katic - PRVA EK.SKOLA wrote:

> Please, can You give me some information about how to order "The FX Kit for
> Lightwave" !
> Note that I'm from Croatia, Europe !
>                                                   Thanks !





Below is some information on the products we carry.


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monthly video (VHS) series which Lightwave users can subscribe to just
like a paperback magazine, only it's a video.  Each video will be
anywhere from 60 - 120 minutes in length and is available in both NTSC
and PAL formats.  The Lightspeed Videos are shipped to existing
subscribers on a monthly basis as they are produced. The advantage
Lightspeed has over standard magazines is that the viewer gets to see
what the tutorialist is doing versus reading how to do it.    Each video
contains several tutorials and generally a product review.  The
Lightspeed videos also contain the famous "Animation Showcase" which
features animation's and demo reels from people all over the world.
Tips, Tricks, Animation's, reviews and more are all to be had in each
issue of Lightspeed.  Call and order all the back issues of Lightspeed
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(add $5 per video to your subscription for PAL versions)





"The FX Kit for Lightwave" is an exciting new tutorial book for Lightwave
users written by Alan Chan.  This 300+ page book is full of tutorials and
is broken down by chapter into fundamental elements.  For example, if you
wish to know how to create lasers, planets, ship exhaust, metallic hulls
or other space type scenes, turn to the SPACE chapter.  If it's
Landscapes, sunsets, Oceans or other similar scenes, turn to the
Landscaping chapter.  This book should save all Lightwave users a lot of
frustration by eliminating the guesswork out of today's most popular
scenes. Professionally written and full of great content, The FX Kit for
Lightwave is and indispensable reference and learning tool for the
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fantastic songs perfect for all of your projects.  These are all
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Computer animators will find fantastic tunes to throw in as background
music.  In fact, there is something for everybody on this CD.  Priced at
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Volume 1 is a must have for everybody.

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From: [e-mail] (C Mak)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: HELP again! (was Ack! Help! Saving Animations)
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 05:48:07 GMT
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Thanks for those who replied by e-mail and here.  I've got another
problem...<sigh>

I've spent the better part of the evening trying to work on the
Modeller and for some reason it keeps kicking me out of the program
and back into Windows.  No warning at all and it's a clean  end to the
program.  I restart LW and start manipulating my objects, camera and
light and then all of a sudden I'm back in Windows.  A few
manipulations is all it takes.  After the sixth time, I gave up.

Any ideas?

I'm running it on a P100, 16 meg RAM, Win 3.11.

Other than these problems, I think I'm getting the hang of it! :-)
(FAMOUS LAST WORDS!)

Chris


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> >   I would argue that LW is fairly new to the "greater world" of 3D
> animation and has
> >not had time to make an impact as programs like 3DS, topas, strata
> pro, electric
> >image..etccc.
> >
> >
> Not Really, we're talking professional Video/Film Animation versus
> Games here.. 3ds hasn't been used alot of that..

I have to disagree on both counts. Lightwave has been around for a while now, it just hasn't been
a stand alone program that long. Lightwave is and will be used a lot in TV/FILM animation but 3DS
does get used probably more than you think. It doesn't get all the glory of doing B5 or Seaquest
but it is in commercials, Logos, advertising, and movies. And 3DS is also widely known for its
games. I think software like Lightwave, 3DS, and especially EIAS have really shown that animation
isn't just a tool of the high end studio with workstations. Now that Softimage is moving to NT,
and Lightwave is crossplatform, and MAX is being released you will really see a shakedown in what
animation costs. What once needed to be done on a large network of expensive workstations can be
done on a small renderfarm of PCs. It's only a matter of Lightwave vs. 3DS to those religous to a
program, it really should be PC(including Mac and Amiga)vs. workstation. I have a feeling PC
animation will begin to take over what was once in the hands of only the rich studios.
SGI/Alias/Wavefront are really going to have to turn out something beyond incredible with Maya to
keep from being hurt.

Jeff

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From: [e-mail] (Mark Dunakin)
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The way I heard it, was that they kept on saying that Win95 was supposed to be
out in the first part of 95 and then in the Spring and then the third quarter
and it didn't hit the shelves until 95 was practically over....So MicroSquash
sounds just as bad as everyone else.......md

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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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In article <4ccl15$i1k$[e-mail]> angelo yap <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: angelo yap <[e-mail]>
>Subject: M&M commercials
>Date: 3 Jan 1996 01:09:57 GMT

>        I read that the M&M commercials with that 2 characters
>were made in lightwave. It sure looked like it was made on an
>sgi machine. The animators in Will Vinton studios sure did a good
>job.

Stephen Bailey, who worked on the project, has a really good article in the
Jan issue (I think) of VTU described the modelling/animating process.


Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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I am looking for a dealer that stocks the seagate
barracuda 1 gig. drive that is compatible with
the dps pvr board

model # st31250n

I have called all of the lightwave and perception dealers
in vtu and none of them seem to stock anything under 2 gig and
I just dont have an extra 1000.00  around

If anyone knows who stocks the above drive I would appreciate it.

TIA


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>   [e-mail] (Brett Tribble) writes:

>    2. Put a radio button (check box) in the effects menu to
>       disable antialiasing the background / foreground images.
>       again it gets old watching it waste time ($$$!) anti-
>       aliasing a clean image.

    This has been discussed time and again:  NOW HEAR THIS!

    Although it appears that the background image is being anti-
aliased, in fact it is not.  So don't worry about it affecting your
rendering times.

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>   Daryl Stultz <[e-mail]> writes:
>  <[e-mail]> writes:
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>  >    I've read that connecting a PC to an Amiga is possible through a null
>  >modem cable, but I haven't found out what specific software is neccessary.
>
>  Try TWIN EXPRESS/ I use it and it works well, but slow (16KB/sec) It has
>  both Amiga and DOS files and docs to make the cable.

    It works, but only under W3.11, no?  Not under NT for sure, W95 I don't
know.

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From: [e-mail] (Phillip Finch)
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In article <4cd5m6$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (C Mak) writes:
 05:48:07 GMT

>Thanks for those who replied by e-mail and here.  I've got another
>problem...<sigh>

>I've spent the better part of the evening trying to work on the
>Modeller and for some reason it keeps kicking me out of the program
>and back into Windows.  No warning at all and it's a clean  end to the
>program.  I restart LW and start manipulating my objects, camera and
>light and then all of a sudden I'm back in Windows.  A few
>manipulations is all it takes.  After the sixth time, I gave up.

>Any ideas?

>I'm running it on a P100, 16 meg RAM, Win 3.11.

I'm not the first to say it, and I won't be the last, but Win32s is a rat
hole.

Glom onto a copy of Win95 if you possibly can. It's a lot more solid
than Win 3.1 in running 32-bit apps. And it's a whole bunch faster in
rendering most LW scenes.

If at all possible, get yourself NT workstation, which is an even bigger step
forward in stability--basically, LW doesn't crash, at all, in NT.

I'm not a fan of 95, but it makes much more sense than 3.1 if you're going to
run LW.

Better start saving for RAM, too...

Phil Finch ([e-mail])

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From: [e-mail](Alan Chan )
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Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Lightwave
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In <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Steve
Koren) writes:

>Now the problem is that there doesn't seem to be a convention for how
>objects should be saved: some people use absolute paths, some use
>relative paths, some use paths relative to Lightwave's home "3D:", and
>some use assigns such as the above.  If you stick to the above
>convention, adding new object directories later is trivial, but
loading
>someone *else's* project may not be.  In this case, the scene files
are
>just ASCII and you can run 'em through emacs and replace everything
with
>LWObjs: as above.
>
>I think the real problem is the lack of a convention.  There's no
point
>to having LW duplicate a search engine when OSs have perfectly good
>search engines built in, IMHO.