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Subject: Re: LightwavePro
Date: 3 Jan 1996 14:47:30 -0500

>>On Jan 03, 1996 13:12:57 in article <LightwavePro>, '[e-mail]
>>(Thies Uhl)' wrote:


>>I have ordered the magazine LightwavePro but nothing happens
>>Thies

>same here, I subscribed 3 months ago and not a word


Have you tried calling them and complaining? I had a subscription for 2 years
starting with the first issue. In the last year I had to call and remind them
to ship my magazine for 8 or 9 issues. They usually ship around the 3rd week
of the month and it used to take a week or 2 to get it here in Canada. If you
don't see your December issue in the next week or 2 call and complain.
(plan on phoning every month)   :^(

LightWave Pro is a great source of information, but it seems like they learned
marketing from Newtek.   ;^)


One interesting side effect of being a pest was that they didn't send me a
renewel notice when my subscription ran out.


Jeff H...



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From: mmolyneux <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: LightwavePro
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>>>I have ordered the magazine LightwavePro but nothing happens
>>>Thies

>
>>same here, I subscribed 3 months ago and not a word
>
>
>Have you tried calling them and complaining? I had a subscription for 2 years
>starting with the first issue. In the last year I had to call and remind them
>to ship my magazine for 8 or 9 issues. They usually ship around the 3rd week
>of the month and it used to take a week or 2 to get it here in Canada. If you
>don't see your December issue in the next week or 2 call and complain.
>(plan on phoning every month)   :^(
>
>LightWave Pro is a great source of information, but it seems like they learned
>marketing from Newtek.   ;^)
>
>
>One interesting side effect of being a pest was that they didn't send me a
>renewel notice when my subscription ran out.

I agree, give them a call. My magazine always shows up ( so far) but I have to
call every second month because the companion disks never show up. Perhaps some
one working for the post office is a lightwave user. :-)

--
Morton Molyneux


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From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Wireframe is DEAD : QuickDraw 3D
Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:27:34 -0500
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Marketing, cash flow, and stock holders are a software development team's
worst nightmare.  These groups demand release dates be set months in
advance
and software design is expected to meet them with little consultation I'm
sure.

I wonder if Allan & Stuart could openly discuss their feelings on this?
Were
they asked how long it would take?  Were they given the time necessary?

I doubt it...

And a really big point is this; Software development is more of an art
than a
science.  These large applications are works of art, not engineered
production line assemblies.  How can you dictate a time frame for creative
endeavors?
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Some interesting points. Some thoughts -

First off, AH & SF were asked and consulted.  I was involved in this
process, and I know my feeling personally is that I'd like an accurate
date, not a 'quicker' date, so you HAVE to ask the programmers. This is
not to 'blame' Allen or Stuart, mind you; some things were beyond their
control - just to clarify that NewTek didn't ram a date down their
throat....

My idea was to switch from announcing dates like 'Sept. 1995' to saying
3rd Quarter, 1995. This is standard industry practice and NewTek had never
done it. My idea was, if the programmers said it should be ready in the
2nd Qtr, to announce the 3rd. There was a lot of resistance for some
reason, and some NewTek employees chose to ignore the 'Quarters' policy
and announce dates at will. I heard fairly high ranking NT employees tell
people that it'd be October or something and I was stunned. When I quit
NewTek, I noticed the Quarters policy was dropped altogether and people
seem to pretty much say whatever they want. "Four to six weeks..."

As for general theory - I don't know about you, but I ALWAYS have
deadlines. Most artists do. I like them. You can't always make them, but
if you're way off, there is something wrong. Every creative endevour has a
time frame.




_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Check out the home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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From: [e-mail] (C Mak)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: HELP again! (was Ack! Help! Saving Animations)
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[e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) wrote:


>You say Modeler but you describe Layout (Modeler has no lights or
>cameras).  Which of the two programs are you having trouble with,
>as the diagnosis may be very different for each.
>--
>    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
>        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"


Sorry, I mistyped!  I'm having problems with Layout.

I'm going to check the dongle and see if it's installed tightly or not
(have been getting "LW initialization failed" messages on start up on
occasion) and then see about Win95.

I have Win95 but have been hearing so many conflicting reviews and
opinions on it that I don't know if I should install it.  Part of me
is saying "install", the other part of me is afraid it is going to
incidiously take over my entire comuter and I'll never be able to use
it again :-)

Chris


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From: Daniel Dacey <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ScreamerNet and Win95 problems
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 11:44:30 +1000
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To: John Gross <[e-mail]>

John Gross wrote:

> You neglect to say where you are running the ScreamerNEt icon from. Is it
> on another machine attached thru the network. If so, You have to realize
> that SN will read the LW.cfg file located in the host machine's

No I'm trying to run Screamernet just on the one computer. Some of the scenes I've tried
rendering are the samples that come with the CD-ROM and are stored in the correct content
directory.

BTW I have even made sure they saved OK by loading the scenes in Layout and saving them again
with the file format and path for RGB files etc.

Cheers
Dan

____________________
Peppermint Graphics
Newcastle
*Australia

* A big island somewhere south

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From: [e-mail] (EnnBee)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ** Lightwave vs 3d Studio **
Date: Tue, 02 Jan 1996 02:13:32 GMT
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On Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:03:43 GMT, I heard [e-mail]
("Glyn Williams") say:

>(3DS cannot assign a material to a poly)
> You can assign materials to the face level, element

>This certainly ain't in *my* copy of 3DS (r3) - An element must be
>selected and detached to allow a new material attribute to applied.

Try SURFACE/MATERIAL/APPLY/FACE.

You can then assign a material to any single face or group of faces
you have selected. RTFM.




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From: Sam Marrocco <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: WTD LW for SGI
Date: 4 Jan 1996 04:01:57 GMT
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I don't think you'll be able to get LW-SGI used at all, since XAOS
encodes each version to your particular machine serial numbers as
protection.

I use it on an Indigo2 Extreme and love it, but miss the plug-ins, arexx,
and third party support the Amiga had.

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From: Nick Rasmussen
Subject: Re: Toy Story
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[e-mail] (FCAP) wrote:

>I think of lot of you tech heads have completely missed the real genius of
>Toy Story, the character animation.  The emotion, the mannerisms of all
>the toys were superb.  Forget that the toys looked plastic (duh), look at
>the performances!  I swear Woody was Tom Hanks!  Try doing just a few
>seconds of true emotion with a bunch of polygons.  There is more to 3D
>animation then creating photo realistic texture maps, which if you look
>closely, Toy Story had its share.  The entire gas station scene was almost
>too real for comfort.  Fabulous characters, fabulous story, a fabulous
>job.  This movie will inspire as much new talent as Star Wars did almost
>20 years ago.  It's a whole new world.

I'm just curious, but does anyone know at what resolution they
rendered the movie in?



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From: [e-mail] (Jeff Scheetz)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightwavePro
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>
>I have ordered the magazine LightwavePro but nothing happens
>
>Thies

Try re-installing your mailbox. If that doesn't work call your post office
tech support hotline.

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From: [e-mail] (Kevin Gleeson)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ScreamerNet and Win95 problems
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 96 13:09:43 GMT
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In article <[e-mail]>,
   Daniel Dacey <[e-mail]> wrote:
>John Gross wrote:
>
>> You neglect to say where you are running the ScreamerNEt icon from. Is it
>> on another machine attached thru the network. If so, You have to realize
>> that SN will read the LW.cfg file located in the host machine's
>
>No I'm trying to run Screamernet just on the one computer. Some of the scenes
I've tried
>rendering are the samples that come with the CD-ROM and are stored in the
correct content
>directory.
>
>BTW I have even made sure they saved OK by loading the scenes in Layout and
saving them again
>with the file format and path for RGB files etc.
>
>Cheers
>Dan
>

Hi Dan,

To me it sounds like you may be trying to use some HIIP loaders under
Screamernet. It doesn't like them unless they are IFF or TGA. Are you using
image sequences? . They can be fun. There are a couple of other things that
might be happening.  Give me a voice call next wek if this tip doesn't work on
018 125 715 - I'll be in Sydney next week.


>____________________
>Peppermint Graphics
>Newcastle
>*Australia
>
>* A big island somewhere south

Kevin Gleeson
Imagine It
Hobart
Tasmania*

* A big island south of the above island

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From: Michael L Weiss <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave to VRML?
Date: Wed, 03 Jan 1996 16:08:57 -0800
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Bill Mills wrote:
>
> Does anyone know if there are any converters existing, or in the works
> to convert Lightwave object/scene files to VRML?
>

Bill,

    Modeler has a VRML saver for objects and for scenes. It is a
    plug-in.

    I ahve saved an object and it did fine. I saved off a scene
    and it created a VRML with inline objects. As my viewer doesn't
    support this, I can't tell if this is ok or not

    I have an Amiga version of lightwave and the plug-in file is
    newtek/Programs/Plug-Ins/Modeler/lw_vrml.p

    Hope this helps.

    Michael L. Weiss
    [e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] (JKrause357)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Amiga 4000T ?
Date: 3 Jan 1996 19:01:20 -0500
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can i use a 1084 or 1084s monitor on my amiga  4000T
do i need a sync strainer. i'm geting it for lightwave.

thank you
joe

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Subject: Re: M&M commercials
Date: 4 Jan 1996 16:11:41 GMT
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angelo yap <[e-mail]> wrote:
>    I read that the M&M commercials with that 2 characters
>were made in lightwave. It sure looked like it was made on an
>sgi machine. The animators in Will Vinton studios sure did a good
>job.

Goes to show, talent is more important than technology.

Andrew Weiler



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From: [e-mail] (Henk Manders)
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Subject: Re: Explosion!
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[e-mail] ("Phil South") wrote:

>> Who makes a tape or book that explains how to make groovy explosions?
>>

>Desktop Images. In fact there is a very nice explosion in the LW 4.0
>samples.

Which scene are you talking about?



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From: [e-mail] (Action Jackson)
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[e-mail] (Suraj Gulrajani) wrote:

>I normally output my Lightwave animations to a PAL Betacam SP (at 720 x 576).  However, a client wants me to output some animations onto Abekas format for editing in D1 (or is it D2?!?).  Now, I know the Exabyte 8500 / 8505 with the Adpro's Abekas saver

>I assume I could render on the PC and ethernet the IFF over to my Amiga to save to this Exabyte tape using the AdPro Abekas saver.. (BTW, anyone got one for sale?? :^) )

>Also, I'll need to composite my LW animation on some live footage, so what's the best way to do this, btw?

>PLEASE HELP!

>thanks much

I use a shareware product called GenerexxT which works with ADPro. I
have the ADPro bacus driver. This will sit in the backgroud and or
forground and convert all frames to Abacus (8mm Exabyte Required) and
works well... Thats all on an Amiga though.


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From: [e-mail] (Tony Lisanti  Totowa)
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Subject: Re: Can I get the Crack for Lw Here?
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No! This is for people who actually buy software to make a living you
cheap moron!


SexKitten wrote:



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From: [e-mail] (Ken Schmitt)
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Subject: Re: Lightwave, Win95 and Zip drive?
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it works fine...
both types, the 31 parallel zip drivers, and the 95 zip drivers.

though, if your copying a file to the zip drive while you first run
lightwave, no, it wont work.... you have to rerun lightwave (just like
printing straight off the zip drive, it cant be done, unless you
buffer)



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What is the best way to convert LW scenes or objects to DXF or
3dStudio format. I have a PC running Win95.

Matt


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
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In article <[e-mail]> Andy Rodriquez <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Andy Rodriquez <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Re: Lightwave & 3d Studio comparison
>Date: Fri, 22 Dec 1995 23:19:00 -0600
[snip]
>Unfortunately, the problem lies more in the users than anything else.
>I am a big 3DS user, and I have seen some true crap done by a great
>deal of 3DS'ers.  It all stems from background.  A have a commercial
>photography background, so I know a lot about light.  Most of your
>Amiga/Lightwave people have backgrounds in video, again with a lot of
>lighting knowledge.  The average 3DS user, however, is either a
>engineer, a architect, or a hacker.  Their poor training shows in
>their work.  So when you see these awfully lit scende with crummy
>materials (ambient lighting = 80%, phong material), you can tell they
>are junk.  I have some of my pieces up at my web site... they are
>stills, and look fairly convincing.  If they were animated, I think
>they could fool people.  Tell me what you think.
>http://www.patch.net/~andy

Yep - we have been 'round and 'round on this before.  When Space: Above and
Beyond premiered, there was almost universal failure in identifying which
parts were done by LW or some other package.  Heck - people couldn't
differentiate the 3D stuff from the model shots.

I place limited stock in the claim that renderers have a distinguishing look.
There may be some truth there, but I suspect the real problem is users not
applying lighting and textures to good effect.  There is often reliance on
"out of the box" surfaces and lighting.

Tools can be limiting, but the limitation is probably in the talent of the
artist most often.  I just watched a show on the use of matte paintings.  I'm
afraid that I have been fooled at the movies by a paintbrush.  Its a sad truth.

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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>I agree, I am terrible at lighting and it showed, so I took a bunch of
>video production classes and it really helped. I checked out the page
>and it is good, I instantly recognized your rendering from the back of
>my 3DSr4 box :) Another good thing to check out is a french animation
>on the 3DSr4 demo VHS tape. It's a free tape to get and has some nice
>animations on it. But the animation is also super real. It all comes
>down to who is using the package. I have seen stuff done with Imagine
>that rivals stuff done with Alias.

>Jeff

There is link to a rendering of a electron tube rendered with POVray on my
personal (and much neglected) home page.  It is top notch in the
photorealism department.  Note the glass imperfections and the very nice
shadow that is cast.  It inspired me to attempt (my last attempt fell well
short - maybe I'll resurect (sp?) the project in LightWave?) to do something
similar with Imagine with an electric lightbulb.  My point is that attention
to detail makes the difference.  Steve Anger put much more attention to detail
into his image than I did (though my lightbulb does have some good points).

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From: [e-mail] (Mr. Orange)
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Subject: Re: LightWave V4.0 Patch For PC
Date: 4 Jan 1996 03:26:29 GMT
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In article <4c6loc$[e-mail]>,
Daniel J. McCoy <[e-mail]> wrote:
>In article <4c2rnf$a0c$[e-mail]>,
>fixes is concerned.  Then again, the pool Alpha owners are STILL waiting for
>the 4.0 release...

A friend of mine just got LW4.0 for the Alpha...  a bit buggy though ;-)

Seems that it doesn't like scene imported with morphing.

*shrug*

Mr Orange
fledgling LW user
--
(pwei barmy army - chico chapter) ******* http://www.ecst.csuchico.edu/~pberry/
Mail me about info to join either the PWEI or James mailing lists.         DNRC

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From: [e-mail] (Leuey)
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  Well, I've about HAD it with wfw 3.11.  I got another 16 megs of ram
installed, giving me 40 total, but when I try to render a scene I get the
"not enough memory for frame buffer" message.  Even though LW tells me I
have about 18 megs free.  When my computer boots up it counts up all 40
megs, and photoshop and everything tell me the memory is there (including
LW).  So WHAT'S THE DEAL????  I have a feeling the problem is related to
windows in some way or another, I'm SOOOOO sick of window.  I'm going to
switch to NT.  Is this an easy thing to do?  Do I have to reinstall ALL of
my software, or is the process relatively painless?  I'm used to using
amigas so I really don't know what I'm in for......

Any suggestions on the memory problem?
Any pointers on installing NT?

  Please help before I EAT my windows install cd out of frustration...

 - greg

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4bgf3b$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
>Date: 23 Dec 1995 08:36:59 GMT

>>   [e-mail] (Chuck Durham) writes:
>>  As far as devices go,  Most of my guys have had more luck with NT than
>>  '95.  Now I've chosen to add all SCSI devices since you find most
>>  operating systems can handle SCSI pretty well such as any of the Intel
>>  flavors of UNIX.  NT works very well with SCSI and you really get plug
>>  and play.

>        No shit.  NT recognizes my second drive on my Zeos fine, while 95
>cannot seem to find it.

>******************************************************************************
>** [e-mail]                     |  Synergy Graphix & Animation   **

Win 95 recognized my 500mb external Quantum using the same hardware that
wouldn't recognized it under Win 3.x and DOS.  This is using an el-cheapo SIIG
SCSI card.  Win 95 recognized the CD-changer at home as 6 CD drives with no
problem (adaptec card).  Both systems recognized the SyQuest 200 when mounted.
 I have an Acculogic SCSI card on a third system that may not be working
though.  I haven't attached a card yet.

I have added Win95 to three systems so far, and it seems to handle the various
hardware configurations with little trouble.

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From: Andrew Weiler <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: RE:  General LW and 3DS q's - interiors/texture mapping
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[e-mail] (steve bergen) wrote:
>I'm new with LW and would like to get the groups input on these two q's.
>
>Can we read and write .3DS files?
>
>Can you quickly model interiors, with flexibility in the texture mapping?
>
>Thanks.
>Steve        [e-mail]
>

Modeler has both a 3DS and a DXF laoder. I've used the DXF
loader with great success, but have not yet tried the 3DS one.
As far as modeling textures and interiors, LW rocks. check out
the home page at
http://www.mindspring.com/~aweiler/aweiler.html for some
samples.

Andrew Weiler


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4brcps$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (JBooth411) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (JBooth411)
>Subject: Re: 95 beats NT for LW
>Date: 27 Dec 1995 07:05:16 -0500

>In article <[e-mail]>, "C:WINSOCKKA9QSPOOLMAIL"
><[e-mail]> writes:

>>I really dont mean to offend Ken sir, but *maybe* you arent using the
>>programs
>>you mentioned deeply enough to see how unstable 95 is. On a p90, 32m ram
>>it crashed quite frequently using Photoshop and regularly with LW (though
>not
>>to such a degree). NT in my experience has been almost a pleasure. Okay,
>it

>     I use photoshop and lightwave under 95 all the time, and I've had
>lightwave crash maybe once, and never had photoshop crash as of yet. Yes -
>I use them quite extensively. I like NT a lot also, but a lot of my
>programs either don't run under NT, or run better under 95...

Ver 3.0 of Photoshop is unstable under Win95.  Ver 3.04 fixes this although it
is still a bit buggy with 16 bit plugins.  We have loaded the Beta patch for
Photoshop for win95 and that helps.  I have yet to experience a LW or Modeler
crash under Win95.  I routinely load multiple copies of Layout with
Photoshop or Internet apps running in the background with no problems.  I'm
sure Win95 is not as robust as NT, but Win95 is hardly an unstable platform
for LightWave.

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[e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) wrote:

>It turns out that what I was calling rev D is in fact rev C.  Forget
>I said anything about rev D.
>
>I have been told that they are working on making a patch available
>on-line.  I'll inform you if I hear when it exists.

I called up tech support yesterday about this and the guy said that a
rev C version was currently under testing.

He wouldn't comment on a timescale for its release (2 weeks anyone ? :-)
nor did he know if it was going to be a patch file or a completely new
CDROM.

John.



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From: [e-mail] (Dwight M Evers)
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To any and all LW 4.0 users,

    We recently got a copy of LW 4.0 at work and are planning some
walkthroughs. The manuals that come with it are a tad poor. Can anyone
recomend/sell me a good book on beginning/advanced LW techniques?

TIA

-Dwight
[e-mail]

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>   [e-mail] (Ian Sinclair) writes:
>  Lee, thanks now I understand where you're coming from...  I agree,  NewTek
>  seems to think those spending far more on their computer system, should also
>  spend far more on LightWave for that platform.

    This is not unusual.  I believe Photoshop for SGI is an arm and a leg and
your first born.

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In article <4btbir$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MarcMylar) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (MarcMylar)
>Subject: Re: Wireframe is DEAD : QuickDraw 3D
>Date: 28 Dec 1995 00:56:43 -0500

>In article <4bo6qb$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Brad
>Grace ) writes:

>>It is a new alpha/beta that I got at work, we are beta testers for it.

>Cool.  I'm gonna head down to Alpha Beta and pick up a copy. <g>  Uh oh.
>They were bought by Ralphs....Well, that's life.

>-Marc

And they made them into ABCOs in Phoenix.


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From: Technomage <[e-mail]>
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Stuart Ferguson wrote:
>
> +-- Daniel Rodriguez <[e-mail]> writes:
> | I'm user of LW v4.0 for Windows and a Calcomp tablet. When i try to use LW
> | with this tablet in absolute-coordinate mode the Modeler and Layout
> | doesn't work well. Example: If i move my stylus left the pointer continues
> | going left during a bit after i stop moving, then i can't work. I just
> | work well using the unaccurate relative-coordinate system. Hey, people of
> | NewTek, what about this!
>
> I assume you're talking about when you hold the button down and move
> the stylus to rotate or move an object.  Try using the stylus point
> like a joystick: click down, nothing happens; move left, object rotates;
> move back to start point, object stops; move right or start point, object
> rotates the other way.  Let me know how that works.
> --
>         Stuart Ferguson         ([e-mail])
>                 "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>                  graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

What would you recomed as the best draw tablet to use with LW. I am in
the market for one and want one that works well with my favorite 3D
program.

Technomage

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From: [e-mail] (Leuey)
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 As long as suggestions are being taken, here's a few of my own.

1)  MORE ENVELOPES.  It would be really nice if all of the proceedural
texture parameters could have envelopes (for size, velocity, and all the
other specific parameters like frac noise contrast, vein ledge width,
etc.)  The number of effects possible would increase exponentially.  It
would also be nice to have other surface attributes (like reflectivity,
specularity, color, bumpiness, etc) - change per frame via an envelope
function.  Parenting and targeting via envelope would be nice as well
(though maybe a little tricky for the parenting).

2) CUT, COPY, PASTE functions for an objects motion channels.  It would be
nice to be able to copy an object's 'bank angle' motion data and paste it
into that channel (or any other channel) in ANOTHER object's motion graph.
 CUT, COPY, AND PASTE functions between different object's channels would
save a lot of time.

3)  and of course, speed, speed, speed - utilizing the 3-D hardware that's
now available (i realize that this is a major goal).  I believe the single
greatest hinderance to an animators creativity is the "it takes too long
to visualize and experiment factor".

uhhhh, that's it for now - I guess

later,
greg




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Lightwave 4.0 for Amiga is now shipping, so Amiga fans can finally
relax, they haven't been forgotten by NewTek.

The store where my dad works just got in their first shipment
yesterday.

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--------------------

    This is not unusual.  I believe Photoshop for SGI is an arm and a
leg and
your first born.

----------------------------


My arm, leg, and son are worth more then a thousand bucks. That's what you
can but Photoshop SGI for.



_____________________________________________
Lee Stranahan
Check out the home page!
URL - http://users.aol.com/stranahan/main.htm


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  Hello, I'm in need of a "camera shake" effect.  In an animation I'm
working on an explosion occurs close to the camera.  For some added
realism I would like add a "shake" effect to the camera for 15-30 frames
or so.  I suppose it's possible to "wiggle" the camera up and down if LW a
few times and add massive amounts of motion blur, but I'm looking for an
easier way.  Is there some sort of image processing effect/filter out
there that will do this?  For premier? photoshop? razor? or elastic
reality?  Any suggestions?

thanx for any help
greg

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>I've had it running before but for some reason I can't get LW to open
>tonight! When I launch Modeler I receive "Startup Failure 212: Hardware
>Key Not Found" and when I launch LW I get "Lightwave initialization
>Failure".

        This happened to me once.
        When NT boots, did you select
        "last known good startup"?
        When I did that, I couldn't load LW.
        The work around was the re-install the
        Sentinal driver.

        Dan




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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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  I've had some good experiences with LightWave Pro...One magazine i
wanted to buy was out of print..so the lady there was kind enough to
xerox copy the whole magazine for me..of course they billed me fo
rit..but hey, most places woulda have said, "It's out of print"...

Adam

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From: [e-mail] (Iain Young)
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Hi there, I am thinking of buying Lightwave for my Win95 PC in the
very near future, but I have a question. I have an Iomega Zip Drive
connected to my parallel port, and I understand LW has a dongle which
also connects to the parallel port. The question I have is, does
anybody know whether the dongle works ok through the Zip Drive's
thru-port, or would I have to unplug the drive before I could run LW.
(Please could you reply via email, thanks).

Thanks in advance for your help,

Iain Young
email : [e-mail]


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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: Re: "camera shake" effect?
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>   Hello, I'm in need of a "camera shake" effect.  In an animation I'm
> working on an explosion occurs close to the camera.  For some added
> realism I would like add a "shake" effect to the camera for 15-30 frames
> or so.  I suppose it's possible to "wiggle" the camera up and down if
> LW a
> few times and add massive amounts of motion blur, but I'm looking for an
> easier way.  Is there some sort of image processing effect/filter out
> there that will do this?  For premier? photoshop? razor? or elastic
> reality?  Any suggestions?
>
> thanx for any help
> greg

The Motion Blur filter in Photoshop perhaps?

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From: [e-mail] (robert hood)
Subject: Re: NewTek's Object Replacement plugin
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Phil South ([e-mail]) wrote:
> > On Jan 02, 1996 02:55:24 in article <NewTek's Object Replacement
> > plugin>,
> > '[e-mail] (robert hood)' wrote:
> >
> > >I've posted a copy of NewTek's elusive Object Replacement plugin
> > >(missing from the most recent LightWave CD-ROM release) to my
> > >anonymous FTP >site:
> > >
> > >ftp.netcom.com:/pub/bh/bhood/plugins/objseq.zip
> > >
> >
> > bless you
> > bless you
> > bless you
> > bless you
>
> Yeah great, but what does it do? I can't figure it out.

Here is a message posted to the LightWave mailing list, by John Gross
that talks about this plugin:

_______________________________________________________________________

John Gross listed two plug-in's in the object replacement class.
Object Sequence and Object List.

message from John Gross:

The two Object replacemnet plugins work as follows:

Object Sequence works just like Image sequence...LightWave will look for
a like named object with a numbered extension on a per frame basis....

Object List works by reading a file telling what pbject to use at what
frame and should look like this:

#LW Object Replacement List
0
C:\Newtek\objects\objectname
10
C:\Newtek\objects\objectname2
15
object name (complete path)

There shoiuld be a file called OBJLIST.TXT in plugins perhaps which shows
how to write it up.

Just make sure to have the first line (starting with #) and then just
list frame number followed by a line with the object nme. LW will use
the object until it encounters a new one to use in the file.

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From: [e-mail] (Mike Harlock)
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Subject: Wanted: 3D scanning service in SF Bay Area
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I need a 3D scanning service in the bay area for very small objects...
The ultimate destination will need to be Lightwave, so someone
who can hand me disks with converted objects would be greatly preferred.

I'm thinking along the lines of a scanner that runs a laser(s) over the
object rather than running a hand-pen physically over it.  That may be
tricky for this.

Thanks,
---Mike

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From: [e-mail] (Michael Justin Austin)
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Subject: quantum fireball and PVR?
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Is anyone successfully using the 1.2 gig quantum fireball
with the PVR?  Or is anyone having success with smaller drives
that are NOT on dps approved pvr hd list?

any help would be greatly appreciated

as I am just too broke after buying the pvr to
spend another 1000.00 bucks on a HD

thanks

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From: [e-mail] (Adam Ives Chrystie)
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  Yes, if someone nows of a good 3d scanning service in the San Francisco
Bay and one that converts to LW..please post their number...

Adam Chrystie
[e-mail]

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Subject: Re: NewTek's Object Replacement plugin
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> On Jan 02, 1996 02:55:24 in article <NewTek's Object Replacement
> plugin>,
> '[e-mail] (robert hood)' wrote:
>
>
> >I've posted a copy of NewTek's elusive Object Replacement plugin
> (missing >from the most recent LightWave CD-ROM release) to my
> anonymous FTP >site:
> >ftp.netcom.com:/pub/bh/bhood/plugins/objseq.zip
> >
> >Enjoy.
> >
> bless you
> bless you
> bless you
> bless you

Yeah great, but what does it do? I can't figure it out.

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From: [e-mail] (Kim Thomas)
Subject: Re: Switch to NT hard?  Memory probs...
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I just upgragded my system from W3.1 to NT (it was a Christmas present),
and it was very simple to do. Just follow the instructions in the
documentation. You might also want to check that your system is on the NT
hardware compatiblity list before you go through the upgrade.

You won't have to re-install all your applications software, but some of
it may not work under NT. Currently, the only software that I regularly
use that runs under NT are LW and Photoshop. The new version of FD
Painter is supposed to work, and there are NT versions of some of the
other software I use available, I just have to get the cash together for
the upgrades.
--
Dave Thomas
Moving Pixels
"I haven't actually read your script, but I have
some questions about it" - Actual client quote
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From: [e-mail] ("Phil South")
Subject: Re: Explosion!
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It's called something cryptic like "explosion.lws", something like that.
:?)

I think it came with the package... although I just now checked the CD
with FIND and it's not on there. WTF did I get it from then? Tomahawk?
Newtek? Graphics.Rent.Com? Hell, I'll post it to tomahawk if anyone's
interested.

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From: [e-mail] (David Oxley)
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Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Lightwave
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I have a few:

1.  If you want to copy surface attributes between two surfaces, rather
than having to save one surface, select the second surface and then load
the saved surface, a "Copy surface from" pop-up list would be very useful.

2. Multiple materials per polygon/group of polys, and arbitrary
orientation of textures are high on my wish list.  Inherent in this wish
is the ability to select the mixing of the textures.

3.  Is there any way both Layout's and Modeler's drawing routines could be
altered so that when you move an object, the whole screen doesn't redraw
in between?  I know you can hide polygons in Modeler to speed up refresh,
but it gets frustrating when you have a lot of objects on screen at once.

4.  I would love the Amiga import/export object function to be added to PC
Modeler.

5.  The background image preview redraw in Modeler needs to be speeded
up.  The same function in Real 3D is lightning fast, so it should be
possible in Modeler.

Thanks for reading :-)

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From: "Stuart A. Chudy" <[e-mail]>
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Paul D. Godley wrote:
>
> I need to find a reliable way to trace bitmaps (2 color, scanned logo
> kind of things) into LW objects. Anyone done this? Have any
> suggestions. I have Adobe Streamline which will trace and create a
> DXF, but it's not a DXF LW will import. (Give an error of, I think,
> MEM_ALLOC_ZERO or some such.)
>
> BTW this is on a PC.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Paul

I prefer the bezier tools offered in packages like Adobe Photoshop &
Corel Draw.  This technique requires both of those packages.


- Trace the bitmapped art using paths in Adobe Photoshop (hand tracing
using bezier curves always makes for a cleaner result than any
'autotrace' tool).

- Export the path from Photoshop to Adobe Illustrator format.

- Import the ai file into CorelDRAW 6 where you can then export it as a
character in a true type font or adobe type 1 font.

- Load the font into Lightwave and use the text tool to type the
character.


There may be an easier way (if anyone is aware of one... let me know!)
but this is what I end up doing.

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In article <4ce8dg$[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail](Alan Chan ) wrote:
>In <4cdr50$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
>(Kevin Gleeson) writes:
>>
>>>
>>>>I've spent the better part of the evening trying to work on the
>>>>Modeller and for some reason it keeps kicking me out of the program
>>>>and back into Windows.  No warning at all and it's a clean  end to
>the
>>>>program.  I restart LW and start manipulating my objects, camera and
>>>>light and then all of a sudden I'm back in Windows.  A few
>>>>manipulations is all it takes.  After the sixth time, I gave up.
>>>
>>>>Any ideas?
>>>
>>>>I'm running it on a P100, 16 meg RAM, Win 3.11.
>
>Sounds like it could be a dongle problem as well.. make sure your
>dongle is seated right.
>
>AC
>
The above is not my post but the previous writer. However - I have seen the
same problem. It isn't a dongle problem as I have three dongles (on 3
computers). Changing dongles doesn't help. Changing computers doesn't help. I
just get kicked out every now and then.

Kevin Gleeson
Hobart TAS OZ

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From: [e-mail] (Joe Monahan)
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What do you mean? Lightwave runs on an SGI.
maybe they were built on an Indigo...?

JMonahan


In article <4ccl15$i1k$[e-mail]>, angelo yap
<[e-mail]> wrote:

>         I read that the M&M commercials with that 2 characters
> were made in lightwave. It sure looked like it was made on an
> sgi machine. The animators in Will Vinton studios sure did a good
> job.

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Also, Toy Story was conceived 4 years ago. Alot of what we see today
wasn't available then. Motion capure wasn't used for example. The
animation was superb. But it was done in Alias - so no polygons.

Jmonahan


In article <4c62i4$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (FCAP) wrote:

> I think of lot of you tech heads have completely missed the real genius of
> Toy Story, the character animation.  The emotion, the mannerisms of all
> the toys were superb.  Forget that the toys looked plastic (duh), look at
> the performances!  I swear Woody was Tom Hanks!  Try doing just a few
> seconds of true emotion with a bunch of polygons.  There is more to 3D
> animation then creating photo realistic texture maps, which if you look
> closely, Toy Story had its share.  The entire gas station scene was almost
> too real for comfort.  Fabulous characters, fabulous story, a fabulous
> job.  This movie will inspire as much new talent as Star Wars did almost
> 20 years ago.  It's a whole new world.

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Christ, they've even had the gaul to announce Windows '97. I think its due
out sometime in 1999. But 'ol Bill isn't discouraged, even if Macintosh
was the number one selling personal computer last quarter.

JM


In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Mark
Dunakin) wrote:

> The way I heard it, was that they kept on saying that Win95 was supposed to be
> out in the first part of 95 and then in the Spring and then the third quarter
> and it didn't hit the shelves until 95 was practically over....So MicroSquash
> sounds just as bad as everyone else.......md

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In article <4cccba$[e-mail]>, [e-mail]
(Brett Tribble) writes:

>
>  1. When loading a scene, and Layout can't find some data,
>     it would be nice if there was an ABORT button between
>     OK / CANCEL. It gets old hitting cancel 100 times to abort
>     a scene load.
>
>  2. Put a radio button (check box) in the effects menu to
>     disable antialiasing the background / foreground images.
>     again it gets old watching it waste time ($$$!) anti-
>     aliasing a clean image.
>
>  3. Durring the initial stages of rendering, have the renderer
>     check to see if there is any change between frames
>     (envelopes, motion graphs, et al). If there _isn't_, flag
>     duplicate frames so that Lightwave just saves multiple
>     copies of the resulting duplicate images. This would result
>     in _MAJOR_ time savings for much of our rendering. I know
>     that this can effectively be done in editing, but I would
>     rather have it done

1. An Abort feature would be nice, but there is something I'd rather have.
When I point lightwave to the objects new location, it should not only
check the original path, but the path where you last loaded an object
from. This would save a lot of text-editing time if I move something from
one directory to another.

2. Backgrounds are NOT antialiased.

3. Why not just copy your images? Do you really want lightwave to waiste
cycles checking for motion on every object, between every frame? This
seems like a huge waiste of time, and how many times do you have a still
shot? I always have something moving in my shot...

4. Integrate PowerView into Modeler and layout.

5. Layout Scripting. The ability to write scripts would greatly aid in my
work. A custom menu (like in modeler) to access these scripts would be
nice to. Most of this stuff can be done with plugins, but a scripting
language would be much better for the average user. Bob? Could there be a
BLL on the way? please?

6. Open multiple Motion graphs at once. I'd love to be able to open 5
envelopes, or 5 motion graphs on the screen at once, and edit them.

7. Operation Grouping. IE: Select a series of objects/lights with the
mouse (in the scenes menu) and edit them as if they were all one object.
This can be acomplished with parenting most of the time, but sometimes
parenting everything together would get in the way. Being able to name
these groupings and see them in the create key/delete key menu's would be
very handy also. Often I want to create a key on all objects, except a
few, and this would alow this.



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No problems reading with Win95 PC cabled to Flyer. But I copy the file to
the Amiga first, then load into Flyer.

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From: ASK ME NICELY <[e-mail]>
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hi all,
does anyone know if there is a version of Scene Mover for the SGI LW?
This macro basically compiles everything that has to do with a scene and puts
the files in a new spot.  Very convenient for taking stuff to differet
machines.

If anyone has something like this for the SGI, please email me!!!

thanx
Josh Tsui

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Jim,

    Am I right in assuming you have your Amiga & PC connected...

Reason being, I'm looking into the Perception but only to make
animations to be dumped to the Flyer anyway.  I realize the Iff2Clip
works on the Flyer so is it possible for your Flyer to look at the PC
drives and grab iff's so it can make a clip---considering the iff's
are the same whether or not they're on an Amiga or PC.

    Any suggestions or help is greatly appreciated!!

Thanks,


Lance Gray   <><
[e-mail]
Empire Productions Inc.

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In article <[e-mail]>,
   [e-mail] (Joe Monahan) wrote:
->
->Also, Toy Story was conceived 4 years ago. Alot of what we see today
->wasn't available then. Motion capure wasn't used for example. The
->animation was superb. But it was done in Alias - so no polygons.
->
->Jmonahan
->

Motion capture has been around for quite a while.. Pixar wouldnt use motion
capture then or now- it isnt animation...

And it wasnt done in Alias either.. Some of the models were built in alias-
but it was mostly done with in-house software....


rick





Rick May
freelance CG animator/TD
[e-mail]
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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4bpd5n$[e-mail]> [e-mail](Thomas Worthen) writes:
>From: [e-mail](Thomas Worthen)
>Subject: lha problems
>Date: 26 Dec 1995 17:59:19 GMT

>I've found that archived on the AMIGA often contain long file names
>incompatible with the PC's 8.3 file name format. Especially if the
>first 8 characters of the long file names are the same as are the case
>in some Lightwave scenes I've downloaded. My unarchiver regards regards
>these as duplicate files and ignores them. I've been able to the
>extract individual files by first getting the names of all the files in
>the archive and then pulling them out one at a time, by name then
>renaming each one as its extracted. Is there a DOS/WINDOWS unarchiver
>capable of intelligent un archiving ?
>Thanks in advance
>Tom Worthen
>[e-mail]

Someone recompiled LHA from a Unix system to NT.  It runs OK under Win95.  It
is called lhantx86.exe and can be found in the usual LightWave places or on my
FTP site (see my .sig).  I have had some files fail CRC checks though.  I'd
say maybe one in a hundred.  It seems more common on larger archives.  I use
lz and lha on the Amiga.

Even with the CRC problem, this program is well worth the trouble.


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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
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+-- Brett Tribble <[e-mail]> writes:
| Add a Mirror mode (symetry) option to Modeler. This would
| resemble the one in DPaint. This would allow you to perform all

Already on the list.  I don't know about the "easy to implement"
part, however ...
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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In article <4cckj2$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (MICHAEL C. LING)
>Subject: Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users here?
>Date: 2 Jan 1996 20:02:26 -0500


>Are there WWW or FTP sites for Real 3d? Is there a demo version of  Real3D
>out there?
--
>M C L -

There is a Real3D Homepage at http://www.msassoc.co.jp/msa/ereal3d.html

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    While we are at it I would dearly like to see the cloning functions
in layout have the same flexibility as in modeller.
    ie number of clones,translation,rotation etc.
    (This might be available via a plugin but i'm STILL on the
    pre-release :( )

    Steven
--
X

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Date: 4 Jan 1996 16:27:46 GMT
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Nick Rasmussen wrote:

>
>I'm just curious, but does anyone know at what resolution they
>rendered the movie in?
>
>
Not positive, but I heard they did it at 1024x962??

AW


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From: [e-mail] (Daniel J. McCoy)
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In article <4cfrfc$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Leuey) wrote:
[snip]

re: Win 3.11 and RAM
>Any suggestions on the memory problem?

Word has it around here (where I work) that Win 3.11 (WFW) can really only see
16MB and nothing really beyond that.  Since my machine at work only has 16MB,
I can't confirm or deny it.

>Any pointers on installing NT?

I had very few problems but I stuck with hardware that was on the
compatibility list.  Another option is Win95 (though it'd be great to get a
"newer" version of LW that may have addressed rendering speed issues in
Win95).  You'll get the same sucky Win 3.11 interface with NT (unless you also
install the "Technology Preview" NewShell (Win95 look&(partial)feel)) but it's
a LOT better stability wise.  :)

Good luck,
Dan

--
Daniel J. McCoy - [e-mail] or [e-mail]
WWW - http://www.pacificnet.net/~djmccoy

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Subject: Re: Switch to NT hard? Memory probs...
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+-- [e-mail] (Leuey) writes:
|   Well, I've about HAD it with wfw 3.11.  I got another 16 megs of ram
| installed, giving me 40 total,
    [...]
| I'm going to
| switch to NT.  Is this an easy thing to do?  Do I have to reinstall ALL of
| my software, or is the process relatively painless?  I'm used to using
| amigas so I really don't know what I'm in for......

NT will work very well with 40 meg.  The installation can automatically
assimilate your WFW setup and duplicate it nearly identically under NT.
If some applications don't work, try reinstalling them individually.

| Any pointers on installing NT?

BEFORE you start, make sure that NT is compatible with your:
    - IDE controller
    - SCSI controller
    - Hard Drives
    - CD-ROM Drives
    - Mouse
    - Display driver

If they are not explicitly listed in the hardware compatibility list,
call the maker and get the most recent NT drivers for them.  You may need
to have the drivers ready on a floppy when you install.  If the maker
cannot provide you with NT support, DO NOT install.  It's time to buy new
hardware.

With NT 3.51 this isn't much of an issue, but take a warning from one
who saved a lot of money by not buying Bill-approved products, and went
on to waste a lot of time reinstalling NT and then spent the money he
saved eventually.  You should check first.  (Anyone want to buy a slightly
used, non-standard CD-ROM drive, IDE controller and graphics card?)
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Stephen J. Gaudet)
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[e-mail] (Mark Dunakin) wrote:

>So I'm not exactly clear on the subject? Is the Alpha better than the P133 or
>maybe I should say which is a better vaue in price vesus performance?

Hello

The 21066-166MHz Alpha is a dog.  It delivers 68 SPECint and 80
SPECfp.  Whereas the P133 delivers 155SPECint and 116 SPECfp.
However, for true speed check out the 21164-333MHz it delivers 400
SPECint and 570 SPECfp.

Cheers,



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On Jan 05, 1996 00:32:00 in article <Re: Any Raydance-Lightwave users
here?>, '[e-mail]' wrote:


>In article <4cckj2$[e-mail]> [e-mail]
>(MICHAEL C. LING) writes:

>>Are there WWW or FTP sites for Real 3d? Is there a demo version of
Real3D
>>out there?


>There is a Real3D Homepage at http://www.msassoc.co.jp/msa/ereal3d.html

Thanx a lot!

--
M C L -

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From: Brett Tribble <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Ok, so here's one for Modeler
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Stuart,

First off, thanks for responding to my post. It gives me the
warm fuzzies to know that we use a product who's creator(s)
actively communicate with the public.

Since you are resposible for Modeler, here is a simple one for
you that although not earth shaking, should be fairly easy to
implement, and adds a deal of functionality.

Add a Mirror mode (symetry) option to Modeler. This would
resemble the one in DPaint. This would allow you to perform all
(most?) of the existing functions around a central point
(0,0,0 or changeable?). This would allow you to lets say...
create a hexagon by turning on "6 point symetry" then creating 1
(6) points, selecting 1 (6) points, and hitting "p".

You could deform all four corners of a 2D mesh with the magnet
tool in "4 point symetry" mode.
etc...

Brett

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Being a new PC user I have a question concerning the ClubToaster CD
and LightWAve for the PC...

I have the ClubToaster Cd's for my Flyer and I've noticed the moving
backgrounds and such also come in IFF format...Because of this, I've
tried to use them as a background sequence on my Pentium 100.  Here's
my problem:

    When I try to access these files from LightWave I get--->

Cannot access this file...Please verify security privileges on the
network drive????

So I decided to copy the images to my harddrive---for that matter even
trying to copy objects off the CD I get the following message:

STOP---File manager cannot copy D:\background\iff\whatever...

File manager cannot find the specific file...Make sure the correct
path & filename are specified.



---I'm pretty sure the correct ones are specified---since I just
created a new directory file and I'm trying to copy the images over to
my harddrive into this new directory----Any suggestions????   This is
a breeze to do on my A4000, is there some good reason why it doesn't
work on my PC????

post or email ([e-mail])

Happy 1996!!!!

-Lance  <><

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 But how do youuse photoshop to fake a motion blur in a lightwave
animation? There is no batch mode in photoshop and doing everyframe is
well..painfull..is there a batch method for using photoshop?? I can;t
believe they've never added it..cuz i haven;t seen it

Adam Chrystie
[e-mail]


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Cinema/Video Major, Senior
University Of California at Santa Cruz

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4cevsm$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Stranahan) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Stranahan)
>Subject: Re: Wireframe is DEAD : QuickDraw 3D
>Date: 3 Jan 1996 17:27:34 -0500

[snip]

>I wonder if Allan & Stuart could openly discuss their feelings on this?
>Were
>they asked how long it would take?  Were they given the time necessary?

>I doubt it...

>And a really big point is this; Software development is more of an art
[snip]


>Some interesting points. Some thoughts -

>First off, AH & SF were asked and consulted.  I was involved in this
>process, and I know my feeling personally is that I'd like an accurate
>date, not a 'quicker' date, so you HAVE to ask the programmers. This is
>not to 'blame' Allen or Stuart, mind you; some things were beyond their
>control - just to clarify that NewTek didn't ram a date down their
>throat....

AMEN!  Just tell the truth.  VTU actually suggested that LW 4.0 might actually
be released early in December of 1994!!!  The pre-release came out in April,
the final in August - and the other platforms are still in beta I think.

It wasn't a few weeks or even months in this case.  BTW - I was glad to get
the pre-release in April.  The length of time to develope the software wasn't
really the issue.  It was the misleading announcements.  Of course it was a
lot worse for those folks who got the first Flyers.



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Leuey ([e-mail]) wrote:
:   Hello, I'm in need of a "camera shake" effect.  In an animation I'm

You could render the frames a litte larger than you need, to give you
some margins, and then use After Effects to crop them. WHen the frames
where the shake is comes along, you could move the frame around. (not
more than the margins you left, you dont want any of the BG showing on
the sides of the frame) After Effects has a motion blur option. Here is a
little known secret: You can set the motion blur to be MORE than 360 deg.
(100%) YOu must type the value in instead of using the slider.

Happy camera shaking!

P.S. Wouldn't just moving the LW camera be a whole lot easier? Why don't
you just do it that way. (I mean, that's the first way YOU mentioned)

-Aaron

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From: cgid <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Free 3d models
Date: 5 Jan 1996 14:04:37 GMT
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From: Bruce Branit <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Toy Story
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 23:17:15 -0600
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My 2 cents worth...

The bottom line for me on Toy Story was that it was created by some very very talented
people. I don't really think it matters to quibble about what technical gadgets they did or
didn't have at there disposal. They used the tools available and got something to be very
proud of. And any criticism of certain aspects of the film, while maybe valid, should be
taken within the scope of the full acomplishment.

OK, 3 cents.

______________________________________________________
Bruce W. Branit - Lawrence, KS
[e-mail]
http://www.idir.net/~bbranit
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From: [e-mail] (Kurt Drange Jensen)
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Does anyone know for sure what plans newtek have for lw on the amiga?


** kurt, [e-mail]

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From: Kevin Baca <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: FOR SALE - 3 SGI Indigo 2 Extremes
Date: 4 Jan 1996 23:25:05 GMT
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We want to sell 3 Indigo 2 Extremes with WaveFront's GameWare and the
following hardware.

Mail to:
[e-mail]

Phone:
619-458-9880 ext 122

1 150 MHZ IP22 Processor
FPU: MIPS R4010 Floating Point Chip Revision: 0.0
CPU: MIPS R4400 Processor Chip Revision: 5.0
On-board serial ports: 2
On-board bi-directional parallel port
Data cache size: 16 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 16 Kbytes
Secondary unified instruction/data cache size: 1 Mbyte
Main memory size: 128 Mbytes
EISA bus: adapter 0
Iris Audio Processor: version A2 revision 1.1.0
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 1
Integral SCSI controller 1: Version WD33C93B, revision D
CDROM: unit 3 on SCSI controller 0
Tape drive: unit 2 on SCSI controller 0: DAT
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From: [e-mail] (Thomas Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Save anim file type in Lightwave PC?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 23:37:39 GMT
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When I select save animation under the record options in Lightwave 4.0
PC, it wont let me select any anim file type to save to.  The only
type listed in the selector is none.  Can someone tell me what is
going on here?

Any help greatly appreciated.

Tom Cole



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Subject: Re: Toy Story
Date: 4 Jan 1996 23:49:19 GMT
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[e-mail] (Joe Monahan) wrote:
>
>Also, Toy Story was conceived 4 years ago. Alot of what we see today
>wasn't available then. Motion capure wasn't used for example. The
>animation was superb. But it was done in Alias - so no polygons.
>
>Jmonahan
>

Are you sure they used Alias for Toy Story? I had heard
somewhere that Pixar had developed proprietary software for
this movie called Modenv.

Andrew Weiler


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From: Colin Cunningham <[e-mail]>
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Joe Monahan wrote:
>
> Also, Toy Story was conceived 4 years ago. Alot of what we see today
> wasn't available then. Motion capure wasn't used for example. The
> animation was superb. But it was done in Alias - so no polygons.
>
> Jmonahan

Only the modeling was done in Alias, PIXAR uses their own proprietary
(sp?) animation software.

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From: [e-mail] (Equinox II)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Lightwave to VRML?
Date: 4 Jan 1996 19:09:06 -0500
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>Does anyone know if there are any converters existing, or in the works
>to convert Lightwave object/scene files to VRML?

There are converters that come with the program, for scene files and
objects.  Haven't used them yet, but I'm pleasantly surprised that they're
in there.
--Brian

Equinox Images, Inc.
http://members.aol.com/equinoxii/

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|>On Fri, 29 Dec 1995 15:03:43 GMT, I heard [e-mail]
|>("Glyn Williams") say:
|>
|>>(3DS cannot assign a material to a poly)
|>> You can assign materials to the face level, element
|>
|>>This certainly ain't in *my* copy of 3DS (r3) - An element must be
|>>selected and detached to allow a new material attribute to applied.
|>
|>Try SURFACE/MATERIAL/APPLY/FACE.
|>
|>You can then assign a material to any single face or group of faces
|>you have selected. RTFM.
|>
 This sounds much like the select faces offered in Imagine. But I degress.
 RTFM is always a good idea, but here it seems out of place. you were kind
 enough to make your point, but remember this is the LW list, not the 3DS list.
 your always welcome to express your views but have to consider that if we
 do RTFM it most likely won't be the 3DS one :-)

  -bill

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From: [e-mail] (Tim Krego)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: What and how do you guys/gals charge for your work?????
Date: Fri, 05 Jan 1996 03:14:19 GMT
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On Tue, 02 Jan 1996 19:16:44 -0800, Brad Hayes
<[e-mail]> wrote:
>Last peice of advice never waver on your rate. never be afraid to reject a client
>if he cant afford you. just tell them that perhaps they should find someone else.
>if you lower your rate of give discounts, you will never be able to charge full
>price to that client again.

That will be one of the first lessons learned, hopefully not the
hard way.

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From: [e-mail] (Kelly W. Hardy)
Subject: Re: What is the market for lightwave contractors?
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Jon Fabris <[e-mail]> writes:

>I'm curious what the demand is for contractors doing lightwave modeling
>and animation.
>What are the going rates?
>Is it neccessary for the contractor to own a VCR to record their work?
>What king of media is the work usually delivered on?

There is a great demand for both modelers and processor rendering time.
The going rate really depends on several factors, the greatest being what
kind of turn-around is needed and who it is.  After all, General Electric
wanting something by Thursday will cost a bit more than a project that is
a few months down the road, with a more relaxed deadline.

You don't really have to own a frame accurate deck to perform such a
service.  Many people prefer having their data rendered, and saved to a
media such as DAT tapes, SyQuest carts, etc.  They will dump the images
off themselves, saving a generation loss in image quality.  Any time an
image can stay in it's digital state, it's preferred.  If you dump your
work to 1" tape, and the editing dumps to a sub-master, and then to
BetaCam SP for duplication, to VHS for distribution...each step takes
away from the image sharpness and quality.

Also, if all the layout work is done, and all that is needed is render
time, it is cheaper than having to fine tune a piece after it's been sent.

Hope this is semi-helpful to you!  As far as exact pricing, quite
honestly the answer is:  Whatever you can get.

[e-mail]
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Greater Louisville and
Southern Indiana, WKPC
PBS

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From: KARL DITTMAN <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Proposed changes to Lightwave
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 18:47:35 -0800
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Kevin Gleeson wrote:
>
> In article <4cccba$[e-mail]>,
>    [e-mail] (Brett Tribble) wrote:
> >I would like to get input on everyone's thoughts regarding where new
> >features should be discussed.  (SNIP)

I have been focusing my attention on character animation of late, and think the following tool
would be of tremendous benefit:

Problem:  When coaxing Lightwave to perform anthropomorphically (defn: attributing human
characteristics to non-human objects -- for the neanderthals out there), the single largest
challenge is preventing bones from influencing parts of the object that you don't changed.
While it is possible to segregate influence by creating seperate objects, this causes a new
problem that I call "object floating."  While there are ways around this, it is a pain in the
ASCII, and I have a simple development solution for Allen Hastings.

Solution:  "Give Bones the additional ability act only on surfaces."  When a bone is acting on a
surface, the remainder of the object should remain rigid when a surface bone is moved.  This
would greatly ease the animation of facial expressions and much more.  It would allow an
effective "skin" over an effective "skeleton."

Karl Dittman
ECLECTIC MEDIA
708-752-9226

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Win95 & Win for Workgroups
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In article <[e-mail]> Lance Gray <[e-mail]> writes:
>From: Lance Gray <[e-mail]>
>Subject: Win95 & Win for Workgroups
>Date: Wed, 27 Dec 1995 00:36:44 -0800

>Just curious---I just installed Win95 on my P100 with some
>trouble, but finally got it workin.  I installed LW4.0 and the
>animations took actually longer to render going from the texture
>example of 57 secs. to around 95 secs.???  I went back to 3.11 for
>workgroups--->did I not set something up right, because I am under the
>assumption that Win95 should definately be faster than Win for
>Workgroups?!?!?

When rendering from Layout, Win 95 is slower.  However, Win95 is almost as
fast as WinNT if you do your rendering from Screamernet (and no, you do not
need a network to use Screamernet).


Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
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http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
Hey!!  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  We have our new Studio 522 URL!!

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From: KARL DITTMAN <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Polygon Partitioning Error ^$@#$%!!!
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 19:09:07 -0800
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To: "v. vivid" <[e-mail]>

v. vivid wrote:
>
> Greetings, all!
>
> I've got an _ANNOYING_ problem, that spans versions and platforms.
>
> Certain Boolean operations (usually Subtract) result in a "Polygon
> Partitioning Error".  There is no discernible pattern or cause for
> this pest.
>
> As a solution, Modeler says "Add small offset to data and try again".

(snip)

I have also had this problem, and found a rather simple solution.  Unfortunately, it is
difficult to explain without drawing a picture, but I will try.

If you draw a free-form spline and convert it to a polygon; then move some of the points to
broaden the polygon into something extrudable; then you extrude it, you will usually end up
with an object that will result in a polygon partitioning error if you attempt to use it as a
template for a boolean operation.

The reason seems to be that the algorithm vomits if your template object has a combination of
smoothed edges and hard angles.  I don't know why this is, but if you redraw your template
object as an smother polygon and extrude it, it will generally work.  I hope this helps.

Karl Dittman
ECLECTIC MEDIA
708-752-9226

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From: Technomage <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: NEWBIE: Good LW 4.0 book?
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 19:56:09 -0500
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Dwight M Evers wrote:
>
> To any and all LW 4.0 users,
>
>         We recently got a copy of LW 4.0 at work and are planning some
> walkthroughs. The manuals that come with it are a tad poor. Can anyone
> recomend/sell me a good book on beginning/advanced LW techniques?
>
> TIA
>
> -Dwight
> [e-mail]

 Take a look at "The FX Kit for Lightwave"  from Lightspeed ($34.95 -
800-726-3544) It is on page 16 of the New VTU (feb) I just ordered it.

Brad Herman
MEGA Graphics


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|> S> This was all discussed at length on this Newsgroup when the decision was
|> S> originally announced a few months ago.
|>
|>
|>Lee, thanks now I understand where you're coming from...  I agree,  NewTek
|>seems to think those spending far more on their computer system, should also
|>spend far more on LightWave for that platform.
|>
|>OTOH, doesn't the Alpha version of LW include some other expensive products
|>that offset the additional cost somewhat?
|>
|>
|><ICS>
|>
  I think this my be. Many of the users in my local user group use Alphas
 but as I am now working evenings, I don't get the pleasure of seeing them
 anymore. The SGI version is being marketed by someone other than Newtek
 and it cost more but is also bundeled with other stuff. Now business is
 business and lets face it, software development cost, inventory cost.
 The Alpha user base while growing is still mostly dominated by those
 making money at LW. I see prices for other software vary from platform
 to platform. It's easy to justify developing for a platform that dominates
 the market, but if you develop for a small exclusive group the requirements
 may vary. I realize it runs NT but it still required R&D and I for one am
 glad to see it even if I can't afford the resources yet. How thin can one
  expect NewTek to spread itself ? I am still waiting for 4.0 of the Amiga
 version, but you don't see me complaining alot around here. The cross platform
 effort NewTek is making is commendable. I had a chance to go to ANY version
 of LW from 3.5 standalone. However I elected to wait for the Amiga version,
 of course if thats all you own...:-). I think some tend to be a little harse
 on NewTek .
 BTW who has an Alpha that regrets running LW on it for the higher cost
 given the increase in productivity it offers ?

 -bill

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From: Daryl Stultz <[e-mail]>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: LightwavePro
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mmolyneux <[e-mail]> writes:

>I agree, give them a call. My magazine always shows up ( so far) but I have to
>call every second month because the companion disks never show up. Perhaps some
>one working for the post office is a lightwave user. :-)

I just got my first issue of LWPro yesterday <vbg> Does everybody get a
companion disk or do you pay extra for it? I didn't get one.

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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4c2cb1$[e-mail]> [e-mail] writes:
>From: [e-mail]
>Subject: Re: LW 4.0 and digitizer
>Date: 30 Dec 1995 03:40:17 GMT

>>   [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) writes:
>>  +-- Daniel Rodriguez <[e-mail]> writes:
>>  | I'm user of LW v4.0 for Windows and a Calcomp tablet. When i try to use LW
>>  | with this tablet in absolute-coordinate mode the Modeler and Layout
>>  | doesn't work well. Example: If i move my stylus left the pointer continues
>>  | going left during a bit after i stop moving, then i can't work. I just
>>  | work well using the unaccurate relative-coordinate system. Hey, people of
>>  | NewTek, what about this!
>>
>>  I assume you're talking about when you hold the button down and move
>>  the stylus to rotate or move an object.  Try using the stylus point
>>  like a joystick: click down, nothing happens; move left, object rotates;
>>  move back to start point, object stops; move right or start point, object
>>  rotates the other way.  Let me know how that works.

>        PMFJI, but I think the "wonkiness" of using a stylus with modeler is
>more
>of an ergonmic thing than anything else:  the other day I was using FDP and
>switched to LWM while keeping the stylus in hand --- man, that's a wierd
>feeling....

>******************************************************************************
>** [e-mail]                     |  Synergy Graphix & Animation   **

I don't think it is an ergonomic issue.  I have a Compaq Concerto.  This
portable uses a Pen on the screen which is a digitizer.  Dragging a point in
Modeler simply does not work correctly.  The point does not move precisely
where the pen moves.  The point seems to shoot ahead as though accellerated.
I didn't pay too much attention to this until I saw all of the posts from
people having problems with other digitizers.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
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From: [e-mail] (Ivan Moen)
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I just installed Windows 95 ... and now I can't access my PAR drives...
There has to be a way to fix this... it's probably because of the 32 bit
file access. Can anybody help me out?

Ivan Moen


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|>I agree, give them a call. My magazine always shows up ( so far) but I have to
|>call every second month because the companion disks never show up. Perhaps some
|>one working for the post office is a lightwave user. :-)
|>
|>--
|>Morton Molyneux
|>
|>
   Well I resubscribed, corrected the spelling of my name when I called in
 the payment. Names still wrong but it gets here! As an aside, one month
 it was late so I picked up a copy from my dealer, and of course it came
 the next day. So I keep the extra at work.

 -bill

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From: KARL DITTMAN <[e-mail]>
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Subject: Re: Toy Story
Date: Thu, 04 Jan 1996 19:17:09 -0800
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Nick, Rasmussen wrote:
>
> I'm just curious, but does anyone know at what resolution they
> rendered the movie in?

For those interested in the stats on Toy Story, you should read the August 1995 issue of
Computer Graphics World.  It's in there.

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From: [e-mail] (Jason Linhart)
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[e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson) wrote:

<clip>

>We're always interested in user suggestions -- some of our best
>enhancements came directly from ideas suggested by users.  Allen and I
>keep lists of new ideas, one for Layout and one for Modeler.  If I
>see a good Modeler idea here, I'll probably write it in my notebook.  I
>don't know how much Allen reads this group, so I can't speak for him.

>NewTek maintains a bug-tracking database with the capability to include
>suggestions, but it is only accessable to beta-testers.  If a beta-tester
>here wants to act as net-conduit and forward suggestions (and bug reports)
>from the newsgroup to NewTek, that would be fine with me.
>--
>    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
>        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
>         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

Two new e-mail addresses have been created for our LW users to get in
direct contact with the LightWave Group at NewTek.

For ideas on new features send email to:

    [e-mail]

To report bugs in release software send email to:

    [e-mail]

When reporting bugs, please include the steps required to repeat the
problem and as much information about your system configuration as
possible (Processor, RAM, OS,etc...)

Due to the high volume of e-mail traffic that passes through our
system, we cannot reply to every message that we receive.
These messages will be compiled together and read by the entire
LightWave Group.

 Who knows? Your suggestion might just make it in the next version of
LightWave or Modeler!

Jason Linhart
NewTek, Inc.
LightWave Group

P.S. (I'll try to get hats or t-shirts for the best idea and the
toughest bug.)


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From: [e-mail] (Stephen J. Gaudet)
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: Alpha and P6 speeds - economical?
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[e-mail] wrote:

>>   [e-mail] (Phillip Finch) writes:

>>  >I think the faster Alphas are 5 times faster than a 100mhz Pentium, so I
>>  >think that means that the Alpha is only 2.5x the speed of a P6.
>>
>>  The P6 has been shipping for over a month now, as have some Intergraph work
>>  stations with dual 150- and 200-Mhz configurations.
>>

>    So, it's 2.5 times as fast , and <2.5 times the cost????

Hello

Best thing to do is get pricing on the 21164-333MHz which delivers a
wopping 400 SPECint and 570 SPECfp.

Cheers,



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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: HELP again! (was Ack! Help! Saving Animations)
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+-- [e-mail] (C Mak) writes:
| I'm going to check the dongle and see if it's installed tightly or not
| (have been getting "LW initialization failed" messages on start up on
| occasion) and then see about Win95.

Sounds like a good first step.  Good luck!
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Kip Pesuti)
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>I just got my first issue of LWPro yesterday <vbg> Does everybody get a
>companion disk or do you pay extra for it? I didn't get one.

You have to subscribe to the disks for an additional fee. Sorry, I can't
remember the rate for the disks.

 God bless you!
(and your Amiga) or whatever you use :)
-Kip



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From: [e-mail] (Leuey)
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>> But how do youuse photoshop to fake a motion blur in a lightwave
>>animation? There is no batch mode in photoshop and doing everyframe is
>>well..painfull..is there a batch method for using photoshop?? I can;t
>>believe they've never added it..cuz i haven;t seen it

 I know, it blows....I've already looked into the photoshop motion blur
filter as a possible way of accomplishing the effect.  But there is no
macro that lets you select muliple frames and change the blur parameters
on a per frame basis, at least none that I know of on the PC.  It seems
like some sort of macro that lets you apply filters to multiple frames and
allows the changing of filter parameters on a per frame basis would be an
essential tool for animators and easily had.  But, I've never seen it (on
the PC) - shows you that Photoshop was really designed for still images.
(of course this would be relatively easy on an amiga, but I sold mine -
most unfortunately)

greg

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From: [e-mail] (Stuart Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Polygon Partitioning Error ^$@#$%!!!
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+-- [e-mail] (v. vivid) writes:
| Certain Boolean operations (usually Subtract) result in a "Polygon
| Partitioning Error".  There is no discernible pattern or cause for
| this pest.
|
| As a solution, Modeler says "Add small offset to data and try again".
| To which data; the cutter or the main object?  Offset relative to
| what; world co-ordinates, or cutter to object (i.e. between operating
| data sets?)
|
| Once it shows up, I have to start all over.  It cannot be made to go
| away.  I check for non-planar or misaligned polygons -- no good.
| Checks for excess points also avails nothing.  (I am referring to both
| data sets here.)  I have seen this in Amiga Modeler versions 3.0 thru 3.5
| and on the PC Intel version (Win3.x/95).

The offset can be added to either object, and on any axis.  Try different
combinations and see if you can get a good result with any of them.  The
offset does not have to be large enough to see.  You may also have some
strange polygons -- polygons with extranious points for example.  You can
diagnose your model by the following process:

    1. Instead of using Boolean, try Solid Drill.  Try different
    combinations of cutter and cuttee until you get the same error.
    (If you don't get the error, you can do your boolean as two
    solid drill operations and you're done, but you'll probably get
    the same error right away.)

    2. Start trimming away parts of the cutter and cuttee to try to
    isolate the part of the object that is failing.  When the operation
    works, undo the change and remove some other part of the object.

Often you can reduce your object to one or two polygons which are causing
the error.  Examine the polygons carefully to make sure they have the
number of points you expect and that they are good and flat.  Try rebuilding
the polygons from their points again.  Most of these problems result from
bizarro polygons.

If everything else fails, send them to me and I'll look at them to see if
there is a genuine bug.  Set up your simplified objects as foreground and
background layers and use Alt-save to save them as a layered object.  Then
UU-encode that and mail to me with a description of the problem.  By
simplifing them and layering them first, you save me a lot of time and
make it more likely I'll find the problem.
--
    Stuart Ferguson        ([e-mail])
        "How do you compute that?  Where on the
         graph do `must' and `cannot' meet?"

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From: [e-mail] (Chuck Furlong)
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Subject: Re: Saving 32 bit
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In article <[e-mail]>,
[e-mail] (Chuck Furlong) wrote:

> I am looking for ways to save Lightwave animations as 32 movies (lossless).
> The less steps the better.  I will be compositing with QT movies.

Oh yeh....I'm using Lightwave Intel (on Windoze 95).

--
Chow,
Chuck Furlong
[e-mail]

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From: [e-mail] ([e-mail])
Newsgroups: comp.graphics.apps.lightwave
Subject: Re: ALPHA 166 mhz is slower than pentium 13
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[e-mail] (Mark Dunakin) writes:

>So I'm not exactly clear on the subject? Is the Alpha better than the P133 or
>maybe I should say which is a better vaue in price vesus performance?

>thanx.......md

Depends on the Alpha.  There are three.  One is the 21066.  Bottom line,
great
chip, but not as fast as the 21064 and 21164.

So, not all Alpha's are created equal.  (Byte Magazine, June 1995 issue).
For Lightwave rendering, this is almost all floating point.  The floating
point on a 21066 is about the same as a Pentium 133.  However, the  integer
on the the 21066 is 90 versus the Pentium  133 at 140 SPECint92.  The 21064
on the other hand generates more integer and floating point than the 21066.
This is due to a superior architecture.  The 21164 has similar architecture
as the 21064, but has quad issue instruction set.  So, at the same clock
speeds of the 21064, the 21164 is twice the speed of the 21064.

We have seen and are competitive with other vendors for 275+ 21064 based
systems.  If you are looking for fast machines for Lightwave , my/our
recommendation is use a 21064 based machine, if you are on a budget.  However
, if you can afford one, go with a 21164 based system.  The floating
point on Intel systems will not match that of the 21164 until
about P7 at 200+Mhz (more than a year away).  By then, there will be a 21264
chip that is way out there in performance.

So, for Lightwave or any other floating point intensive solution, use the
21x64 Alpha.  Digital; whatever it takes!!  :-)

-Bruce Faust
Founder Carrera Computers
(Author: Designing Alpha based Systems - Byte June 1995 issue)


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From: [e-mail] (Walter (Jay) Turberville )
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In article <4c750f$[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Christopher Stewart)
>Subject: Re: Will 3dsPRO kill Lightwave? NEWTEKS KILLING LIGHTWAVE!!
>Date: 31 Dec 1995 15:05:51 -0800


>In a message dated 31 Dec 1995 02:24:05 [e-mail] writes:

>S> In both 3DS's and LW's cases, it would be possible to retain the
>S> net renderer as a 32-bit DOS app, while leaving the GUI as a Windows
>S> app.  This leverages the speed of DOS and the cost of memory on net
>S> rendering machines that is devoted to WinNT instead of rendering.

>     That would be a wonderful thing. I don't have enough ram in one
>of my machines (by a hair) and it sits idle when rendering complex
>scenes. ANYTHING to reduce the rather massive NT ram hit would
>be a saleable product in my books...

>Christopher

Well - one of the nice things about the various Windows operating systems is
that virtual memory is built in.  So I don't understand how you could be short
of RAM by a "hair".  A "hair" short is exactly the situation that virtual
memory serves well.  A DOS machine would need some virtual memory built into
the program or as a third party program to avoid hitting the wall.  Or I
suppose you could always make the segment sizes smaller - but that works under
Windows as well.

BTW - if I am understanding the system monitor tools of Win95 correctly, it
seems that Win95 locks about 2mb of RAM while LightWave renders.  That may not
be a small number, but it isn't exactly huge either.

Walter (Jay) Turberville         |[e-mail]  [e-mail]
Studio 522 Productions           |http://www.primenet.com/~wturber
http://www.studio522.com         |ftp.primenet.com/users/w/wturber
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>   "Bard C. Papegaaij" <[e-mail]> writes:

>  It sure does work under W95 (in your regular DOS-box), but for some strange reason I have to
>  start it twice. The first time I get the message "non-standard serial port" or some such
>  nonsense. I then exit TWIN on the PC, and execute it again, and - hey presto - everything works
>  fine.
>
>  Bard

    Thanks, Bard.  Proof that persistance furthers!

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From: [e-mail] (John Foust)
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In article <4ccvg7$[e-mail]>, [e-mail] says...
>
>I'm currently a 3D Studio user looking to crossover into using
>Lightwave 4.0. Can anyone recommend a mailorder company that does the
>best deal on the full latest version (not a so-called 'educational'
>package though)? Is $750 the best price around?

I hear Safe Harbor is having a sale on LW PC, lower than anyone
else.  Call 800-544-6599 for more info.

- John


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From: [e-mail] (robert hood)
Subject: NewTek's Object Replacement plugin
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I've posted a copy of NewTek's elusive Object Replacement plugin (missing